The wall for trans people.

moderately_neato · 2022-09-16T03:32:38+00:00

The Wall is bullshit anyway. Plenty of fine looking older women and hard looking men in their 20's and 30's. Aging is a very individual experience and has more to do with how well you take care of yourself and genetics than it does gender. A lot of it comes down to the way society views men and women, as well. Gray hair and lines look "distinguished" on a man, whereas on a woman they're just "old."

John_Von_Doom · 2022-09-15T22:23:30+00:00

Depends how much money they have to keep up with the hormones and surgeries.

xvszero · 2022-09-16T02:11:44+00:00

Red pill are mostly homophobes and transphones so I doubt they have any coherent ideas on that.

spiraldinosaur · 2022-09-16T09:07:28+00:00

Simple answer: just forget this whole idea of "the wall". It's nonsense. It's not even worth trying to process some logic out of any RP content because it's all full of hypocrisy, misinformation and ignorance. You've heard almost nothing about how RP applies to LGBT because these people are entirely ignorant of the spectrums of sexuality and gender, apart from when it gives them an opportunity to belittle other people or blame someone else for their problems. In reality, you've heard nothing about how RP applies to anyone, because it's not compatible with heteronormative society and cis people either. "The wall" doesn't exist. People date through their entire lives. Everyone ages differently. I met a 42 year old woman the other day and she genuinely could have told me she was 24 and I would have believed it.

Just don't waste time trying to make sense out of RP content, you'll just give yourself a headache.

JSBelle · 2022-09-16T01:16:14+00:00

This is not a useful post. RP’s wall is classic misogyny.

bat_hyer · 2022-09-15T22:38:44+00:00

Wouldn't RP be homophobic and transphobic given its strict (and dehumanizing) prescription of what a man should be?

capricorndyke · 2022-09-15T23:02:14+00:00

Well first of all as an ex-redpill subreddit most of us probably don't subscribe to RP content, even if that content has a teeny tiny aspect of truth to it.

Most RP communities are not kind to LGBT people and usually don't have anything nice to say. The RP especially does not embrace the trans community and makes no exceptions. The things I have heard the RP say about the lgbt community are disturbing so if you go down the rabbit hole, proceed with caution. Black pill is either ambivalent at best or a million times worse.

Environmental-Row979 · 2022-09-15T22:38:50+00:00

For the most part RP completely ignores that queer people and trans people exist (and are, in fact, people) so the fact that there's a potential contradiction just doesn't even factor in.

2020mademejoinreddit · 2022-09-16T14:20:29+00:00

I think you're opening up a very dangerous door here. You may not like many of the comments made and things might most certainly take a turn in a very political direction as they do with this subject.

I'll ask you a question instead. Have you ever heard a RP or PUA talk about LGBTQ? If not, you have your answer. If you have, then share it here or just use it for your reference and you'll know.

P.S. - "The wall" is basically another way of saying you're not fuckable anymore looks-wise. But if you go out and see, there'll be plenty of men and women who are somehow, actually more fuckable at that age, strictly speaking on looks. Personally, I've seen women in 40's take way more care of themselves and they're irresistible and require a lot of self-control. That is all.

delight-n-angers · 2022-09-16T19:55:57+00:00

RP only applies itself to cis/het people. The RP ideology views LGBT people as "defective" and therefore not part of the equation. It's one of the many many ways that the entire cult is completely toxic.

friendly_extrovert · 2022-09-17T17:46:26+00:00

I don’t think most RP manosphere MGTOWs actually consider the LGBT community. They’re just obsessed with stereotypes and blow them way out of proportion. There’s no such thing as “hitting the wall at 30” or “aging like fine wine.” Everyone ages, some people faster than others, but that’s why you can’t rely on physical traits alone to find a successful relationship. Looks are important, physical attraction is important, but it by no means will carry a long-term relationship.

Xx_SwordWords_xX · 2022-09-16T05:32:51+00:00

"The wall" only exists if you have predatory inclinations towards young women.

skon7 · 2022-09-16T01:57:24+00:00

Red pill doesn’t apply to trans people. Infact you’re almost lucky to be trans in a way cause this shit absolutely does not apply to you or gays really at all

KingKunta2-D · 2022-09-16T02:56:00+00:00

Useless thought experiments man. Take this downvote

Naus1987 · 2022-09-16T00:34:33+00:00

As an LGBT person (asexual), I can tell you that our dating rules are completely different from you normal people, lol!

Because there's so few of us (LGBT folks), and because we're forced to be a lot more introspective due to our inherent clash with traditional society, we tend to be a lot more tolerant and less shallow when it comes to traditional dating.

Even our age gaps tend to be much more varied. I'm dating a woman 14 years younger than me. Hook-up culture isn't something us asexual people practice (for obvious reasons), but even if we did, it's not like there's a thousand options in our area. So you really get to juggle with what limited options you do have.

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I can't speak for transgender people specifically, but I imagine if trans folks date other trans folks that they're probably a lot more concerned about fitting in and being validated for who they want to be, and a lot less worried about bedroom fun and shallow attraction.

The whole "wall thing" is really only applicable when you consider shallow people doing shallow things. Of course shallow people are going to be shallow and judge older people as less valuable. But that's the nature of shallow people.

Ironically, red pill works for a lot of men, because those very men are shallow enough to believe in that bullshit. So shallow people chasing shallow people.

I'm pretty convinced that half the world is full of shallow people who couldn't think critically to save their life, and for those people--relationships suck.

When you hear that statistic that half of marriages end in divorce, it's not hard to believe it when you think of the average person, and realize that the 50% who get divorced are probably just idiots who couldn't make a long term relationship work even if they wanted to.

Every so often I hear a story of a "smart guy" getting wrecked by a woman, but the guy failed to vet for red flags, and he chose shallow looks over a good personality. "How could this incredibly hot women with the personality of a gold digger possibly screw me over!"

Smart people are having no problems with relationships. It's why you see so many couples out in public.

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I also want to caveat all of this to say that LGBT people aren't any smarter than normal people, and face a lot of the same failures as most.

I could rant about this stuff all day, but the world is fairly simple. If you want to buy something. If you want to invest. You read the reviews. You do your homework. You ask questions.

You can avoid getting screwed over and scammed if you do your due diligence. And for Pete's sake, stop thinking with your wiener. Ok, end rant, LOLL!

globalholiday5090 · 2022-09-16T04:21:18+00:00

pr doesnt apply to anyone outside of binary they just make fun of yall

Artistic_Chip · 2022-09-15T22:24:54+00:00

Gay people date different than straight people. Like gay dudes aren't really worried about passing on genes cus they will cum into a man's ass. Plus 90% of the world is straight thus RP markets towards the larger demographic. Trans population is like less than 1%, and having gender dysphoria is a larger issue than the Trans dating scene

Ok_Perspective7552 · 2022-09-15T22:22:42+00:00

I've personally never heard if a RP person say that they find barely any trans person, regardless of their age, attractive.

As a non-RP, even I don't find any of them attractive, and I'm even bisexual...I just don't find people pretending to be the opposite gender to be very attractive. Its rather off-putting. If I want a girl, ill find a girl. If I want a guy, ill find a guy.

-jamie47 · 2022-09-17T03:44:06+00:00

When you make a claim about another's claim, post source to back yourself up

My opinion on LGBTQ people is that they want legitimacy because they're mostly white and don't want to be seen as a measly colored minority , they number less than 5% of the total American population but seem to have the loudest noise for acceptance

It's kind of hard for a White Christian Straight to accept LGBTQ when they see those parades dressed up in those fashions, that's all they think and make laws to restrict further freedoms. Blending in instead of standing out

I've come to my own feelings as to why I dislike makeup on women because being inauthentic but I associate it with fake women (transgender women) , Native Americans who are the true Americans have female male but they don't need to put all that gunk on their face or cut off parts of their body or change their voice. The issue is White LGBTQ trying to not be seen as weaker minority like the "colored" people

THendrix77 · 2022-09-18T02:15:08+00:00

Being LGBT goes against being red pill. The whole point of red pill is to preserve masculinity. So turning into a woman is like the complete opposite.

MidnightTrain98 · 2023-02-20T18:51:12+00:00

A woman denying the wall is like denying gravity sure NASA says it’s there, but they cannot explain it. Trans people are just people and yes woman who say they are male still hit the wall just sooner.

Title	The wall for trans people.
Author	FionaGallagher2021
Upvotes	15
Comments	73
Date	September 15, 2022 9:59 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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