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How to respond to Schrödinger’s Douchebag

Wild_Artio

August 26, 2021
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Title How to respond to Schrödinger’s Douchebag
Author

Wild_Artio

Upvotes 0
Comments 28
Date August 26, 2021 2:29 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/pbqbex/how_to_respond_to_schrödingers_douchebag/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/how-to-respond-to-schrodingers-douchebag.1065156
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Comments

[–]Throwradfem209 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This is wonderful advice. I would love to see more tips like this if anyone has them. I am always trying to find ways to redirect people when they're being bigots, showing their internalized misogyny, or otherwise being problematic without putting myself on the hook to be their own personal Google.

The easiest and simplest one I have is just saying "yikes" and making a cringe face. Then say nothing else and see how they respond.

[–]QueenBeeJubilee164 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I learned about this in therapy a while ago because I was dealing with a new manipulative scrote coworker who kept trying to do this to me until he finally backed off when he realized it wasn't working but when someone makes a definitive statement about you like "You're always so stressed out." instead of replying, "No, I'm *not* stressed out." say, "Are you *suggesting* I'm stressed out?" It's a small difference but really packs a punch! My therapist said that the manipulator in question will either get frustrated and double down or they will back off.

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Here's another example of a different way you can use definitive statements in your own defense. Say someone says, "You're really bossy." You can counter that by saying, "I am very assertive." or "I am a strong leader."

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Another example! If someone says, "I feel like you're mad at me." or "You're going to be mad at me for this buuuut…" You can reply, "Are you suggesting I'm mad at you?" Or "Should I be mad at you?" and if they go on to elaborate why they think you're mad at them for whatever reason, you can ask, "Is this something that is supposed to make me angry?" or "Why would this make me angry?" It helps to keep asking questions and to ask for explanations because it puts them on the spot and forces them to explain the reasoning behind their thought processes.

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One last tip I can think of off the top of my head! Another good way I've found to counter manipulative statements like these is to just shrug and say, "That's your opinion." or even just merely, "Okay." 🤷‍♀️ in a very calm and unaffected manner before changing the subject or walking away. I hope these help! It takes a lot of time and practice to really get all these tactics engrained in your mind to the point where you just automatically respond with them but it definitely gets easier the more you work at it!

[–]herbivorouscarnivore63 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

One of the best exchanges I’ve seen went something like this:

Person A: You’re going to be mad at me for this, but -

Person B: Then don’t say it.

Person A: But -

Person B: Do I need to know? Will knowing enable me to do something to change the outcome?

Person A: Well, no, but -

Person B: Then keep it to yourself.

[–]Throwradfem28 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This is great! Definitely going to try this when "friends" from my past try to give me updates on my ex.

[–]kurikuri719 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

These are great. Thank you!

[–]Throwradfem5 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

These are great, thank you!

[–]flicktastic93 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I like to say “Why do you say that?” in a very curious tone. Tone matters here, and they’ll either elaborate or they’ll change the subject. That’s when I say “What do you mean by that?” Because nobody can resist the student/teacher paradigm you create with those questions, especially a misogynist mansplainer.

[–]HereForTheFreeFoodOk206 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And if you don't sit in your discomfort and speak up - you will be met with a chorus of men saying "You are so sensitive" or "stop overreacting" or "you killed the mood" "It was just a joke"

In short, no matter what - they will find a way to humiliate and belittle you.

So sitting in your discomfort becomes your default, because you know that the alternative is is a man or a group of men becoming even more aggressive.

[–]Emergency-Feed821679 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Let me share with you the magic "fake study" killer comeback.

Whatever douchey thing they say, you respond with, "Oh, funny, I just read a study reporting that men who say/claim/believe/do such and such a thing have a statistical tendency to be (fill in blank with something unmasculine, unattractive or generally gross). Do you think that's true?"

When they get really pissed and call the study bs, you just shrug helplessly. After all, you didn't write it (but chances are someone did).

[–]Novemberinthechair77 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You just described my college years. Do I speak up, or subject myself to intense gaslighting?

[–]FuckSakez91 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I like to ask ”What was your thought process behind that?”

Your facial expression can be blank, baffled or disgusted depending on the context of the ‘joke’ etc. They wild fold, bluster off or mansplain to justify their tomfoolery.

[–]skinsurance31 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Haha I love this one. Because it's so awkward for them, and they won't be able to help but think about it later.

[–]QuickJellyfish24 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Intentional love island reference or no? 😂 https://i.imgur.com/bPogrP4.jpg

[–]PenneyPence69 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A blank stare with silence really messes them up.

[–]XRoze55 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Thisssss. They HATE when we control the tension and they can’t guess what we’re thinking.

[–]radfem_babe18 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A lot of good responses here but I think this is the most effective.

[–]Aksentia_Ivanovitcha63 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Schrodinger's douchbag is a great name

[–]aquietsword55 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It outs gaslighters too. The last time I used this the scrote insisted he didn't say what I remembered but he worded it differently and meant something else entirely. Nah, my memory is on point and that landfill of a man was trying to revise sexist remarks.

[–]StrikingCoconut42 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Also, when men tell stupid/bigoted/misogynist "jokes", you can do something similar to this. There are 2 great ways to completely neutralize the poison he just put in the air and make him look like a fool

1 - Pretend you're hard of hearing and ask him to repeat the "joke. Jokes are always less funny every time you hear them, they don't hit as hard and makes the teller feel awkward.

2 - "Huh...I don't get it." jokes are always less funny when they have to be explained and you'll have to make him own the shitty thing he said. Repeat as necessary.

It completely sucks the air out of the offense, but is such a way that you can't be accused of "being too sensitive" and going down that road.

[–][deleted]33 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This phrase is also a good way to alienate them. We've been playing along with male bullshit as if it's normal human behaviour for way too long.

[–]queen-wannabe29 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What should you use this in response to? I’m confused.

[–]herbivorouscarnivore112 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Have you ever had someone say rude, offensive, or just plain wrong, and when you call them on it, they tell you to calm down/it was just a joke/you need to relax? Instead of straight out calling them out, ask, “What do you mean by that?” Then sit back and watch them get mad because they know how wrong they sound explaining it.

[–]Wild_Artio92 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Shrödingers douchebag:

One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.

[–]GiveMeWings316 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

1,000 upvotes!

[–]Defiant_Error_14 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yess yess!!! 🙌🏻 It works like a charm for me

[–]Jaelismyhomegirl2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I’ve only recently learned “what do you mean by that?”, and it’s been a godsend

[–]Wild_Artio2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah I wish I knew it when I was dating my narc ex. That and “wait was that a joke?”or “please elaborate.”

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