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[–][deleted] 353 points354 points355 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I’m 29 and recently dated a 34yo and I can tell you for a fucking fact that wisdom does not come with age.
[–]levelupcleverupFDS Disciple15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree. If anything, the game just gets stronger. I’ve started dealing with younger men recently for this very reason
[–]plippoppins43 points44 points45 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen. I can agree with you on that.
[–]throwawayy92838383Ruthless Strategist202 points203 points204 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Every older man I entertained when I was really young was, in reflection when I got a little older, a complete fucking loser and man-child. A woman their age would have never put up with their immature shit. They could only get away with being so incredibly pathetic because as younger women, we are all more naive to what’s acceptable behavior for a man that age.
[–]smaller_angFDS Newbie41 points42 points43 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. They're doing age-arbitrage.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You hit it on the head with “loser” and “man-child”.....ugh but he was so pretty in the face and so fit.....okay, I’ll stop 😅😂 I don’t wanna lose my FDS card. My bad, y’all.
[–]leadsinlight1FDS Newbie74 points75 points76 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That is a little harsh...but it has truth to it. Speaking from a lady that spent 4 years with a man 13 years older than me.
Btw the old wives tale is true: older men will steal your youth and innocence if you let them.
[–]missyou2017FDS Newbie48 points49 points50 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm young and I don't buy into old men's shit and never will
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. And tbh I don't find them or their bodies attractive if they're older by 5+ years.
[–]myrtlebtchFDS Newbie[🍰] 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The same. I don’t find anyone older by more than 5 years to be attractive, they r like a different generation to me. My husband is 2 years younger and it’s perfect to me.
[–]WyvernCharmFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The oldest man I've dated was also the only one I have seen throw a literal temper tantrum. So, theres that.
[–]naomii_loveFDS Newbie102 points103 points104 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm glad that at 12 yo i had been warned by several people about this, it saved me from at least 3 pervs aged 16, 18, and 23.
[–]hotdogs_16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How did they warn you ?
[–]jalapenny11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We started dating (if you can call it that) when I was 18 and he was 26. We were together for 4 years. This is so fucking accurate.
[–]pinkyberriesFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When i was 12 i dated a 18 year old online, we met on social media. He had plans to meet up and refused to meet up in a public place, he insisted it'll be at his place. I got bad vibes and refused so i told him "my mom said no" even though i didn't ask her, he kept going about how i shouldn't tell my mom and how I'm childish if i let my mom tell me what to do. cheap manipulation. I didn't care, blocked and moved on. half an year later he sent a dick pic to my friend (who was also 12, and he knew it) saying it was an "accident".
[–]BellaStayFlyFDS Disciple75 points76 points77 points 6 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Opinions on dating ranges? I am 25 but always feel like I can’t connect with guys my own age. At the same time I wind up dating people a decade older than me and there’s a weird dynamic there. I just wish men weren’t so immature. Logistically I don’t want to have a family with someone who is that much older than me. Maybe you guys can weigh in?
[–]mountaindewme22FDS Newbie71 points72 points73 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm in my 20s. Full time career. Own place. and never needed to find a guy significantly older just so we can match maturity levels. Where are you meeting people? If it's OLD (tinder) then you might as well slide the age scale to 50 because all men on there, even in their 40s, can be and usually are immature.
It my opinion there's no set rule so you have to use your judgment. If a guy in his 30s is ONLY ever dating women in their early 20s that's a red flag. If you happen to meet someone and he doesn't pressure you for sex, isn't wishy washy, takes you out on proper dates, treats you like an equal and not his "little gf" but so happens to be 6ish years older, then it's fine.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
M former friend is a 33 yr old tinder dude and he acts like he is in his early 20's. I'm flabbergasted at the difference in how we think and act
[–]Lakersrock111Throwaway Account57 points58 points59 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I am CF so I am even more limited because men want the kids but don’t want to raise them always. So the few CF men I have met were ...interesting.
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple71 points72 points73 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
In my experience cf men are strange. The ones I've seen are 40 with zero kids and kind of inflexible people? Like men who haven't lived with women or gotten married by 40 or whatever have been very very selfish people.
Just my experience
[–]Lakersrock111Throwaway Account15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Well said, yes strange is the right word. Are they usually only children?
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No not for me. Just weird. I think men that wait or don't get married are rigid and not open to change and sort of making space for people ?
Obviously I'm hoping to someday find a good man, but that age range is difficult
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yup. The 34yo I dated always said, “I’m set in my ways” for EVERYTHING. He wasn’t even that old ~millennial~ I think he was just too lazy and probably afraid to change. Like I don’t care whether you’re 34 or 94 you can still learn new things/ways. Yeesh!!
[–]femurfataleFDS Disciple8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im constantly in a state of change! Or I'm trying! Why give up?
But yeah I feel like I've had the same experiences
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ew. Every relationship requires compromise and flexibility. So when a man says something like that: BYE.
[–]Lakersrock111Throwaway Account3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree.
[–]PicklesNBaconFDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What does CF mean?
[–]Lakersrock111Throwaway Account18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Childfree
[–]PicklesNBaconFDS Apprentice8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ahhh thanks! I’m CF too 🙂
[–]Lakersrock111Throwaway Account6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awww hello:))
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
CF woman checking in.
[–]erosdragonFDS Newbie[S] 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I stick to about an 8yr range for older. Struggling with younger guys. Thinking 5 is my max. I’m 37 btw.
[–]PicklesNBaconFDS Apprentice9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Same. My range is 34-42. I feel like guys younger than 34 are a little immature/still all about partying and older than 42 probably have a lot of baggage/kids and we wouldn’t have much in common. I’d probably go up to 44 though
[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm about a 7 yr age range myself, but prefer my age or older.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wanna know too cause I’ve seen contradictions on this sub.
[–]extraacct1234Ruthless Strategist11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just wait it out for a few years. Fuck around or have fun with friends, build your career etc.
[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seeing a lot of disgust here for men in their 40s dating women in their 20s....does that apply when the genders are reversed, even if both parties are happy with it?
[–]BabyGotBantzPickmeisha™️13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Immaturity really does come at any age. There are Men in their 40s who act like 20 year olds and 20 year olds who act like 14 year olds
I’ve dated younger and older and same age but it’s all about who they are: not their age. TThere’s a lot of fish in the sea but there’s more garbage than fish.
I married a wonderful divorced guy with no kids 13 years my senior and I’m 29. I love him and he totally worships me. I’m very strong willed, independent and career driven but I expect a man to be a gentleman and act like one. I never had much in common with men my own age and I dated plenty.
They were not as good at conversation and not as worldly. My husband is kind and sensitive and knows the value of love. Some people might judge the age difference and believe me they did at first, but now they can see how happy we are together. We both teach each other a lot and go on lots of adventures. Age shouldn’t be too much of a deciding factor.
I do think girls in their early 20s have not had a career most likely and are still naive in a lot of aspects and are ripe for being controlled which can happen a lot.
However, my parents are 8 years apart and had the best and most loving marriage I’ve ever seen. My grandparents were 15 years apart and had 6 kids and a loving marriage.
[–]katiedarling37FDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m at the point (I’m 38....) that age matters a little less than all of the other factors, but will still be the thing that tips the scale. Like.... if he’s got his shit together, but has a weird past, how old he is makes the difference. Or some other variation....
[–][deleted] 37 points38 points39 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Serious question
Are we for women in 20s dating guys in there 40s and 30s as long as they are high value? Because then we can’t really hate men for picking young girls...
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Men never pick, they can't.
This sounds great but i just don't think is an universal truth. HVM have virtual harems of pickmes, they do choose as many as they want and these freaking gender traitors even feel honored to be his cum receptacle of the weel.
> Women are the prize and are therefore always the choosers.
Again, how does this relate to the supply and demand of HVM? In my case i think i only know about 5-6 HVM, every other moid has no business dating anyone until after they seriously work on themselves.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I guess I feel conflicted, I wish I could call these guys low value but the reality is that they are attractive, know it and act accordingly.
I feel like it's pointless to call them low value when they still reap the rewards of being top 1% of men.
[–]ino_y4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sex is their only reward?
I value character, honesty, integrity, kindness and decency. That's what makes a man high value. Not how well he can hoe.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I value character, honesty, integrity, kindness and decency.
Yeah, me too. But fucking pickmes throwing themselves at hvm spoil them for choice.
This is a race to the bottom and I don't know how can we stop it.
I twice tried to do the "wait until sex" advice from this sub and both guys ghosted as they could have sex on tap.
[–]Caranda23FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Excellent point
[–]mizzmilitiaFDS Newbie62 points63 points64 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am not comfortable with age gap relationships at all, I think its creepy when a guy or girl dates someone much younger than them. I really think the only reason why they do is to take advantage of them. The oldest guy I would date would be 5 years older than me and the youngest 2 years younger than me.
[–]BalkankaFDS Disciple14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why can’t we hate on men dating well below their range? This not* red pill woman.
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[–]BalkankaFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m noticing a lot of red pillers in this sub lately. Really hope they don’t shit it up.
[–]SangriasyraFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I mostly have an issue with grown ass dudes praying on teenagers. 20+ you got this. But if you are under 20, it's just not the same.
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[–]GingerfixFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For me it’s just that the allowable age gap significantly widens after 20. A 20-year-old dating a 30-year-old exclusively seems fishy to me. A 25-year-old dating a 35-year old doesn’t seem so weird. A 30-year-old dating a 45-year-old wouldn’t seem too weird.
Then again, I’m from the Midwest. After moving to California my opinion on the age gap has changed a little - most 40-year-old women I see have everything waaaaaaaay more together than I do at 28, and most men don’t seem to be fully self sufficient out here until 35ish, so...idk, maybe there’s some time between 25 and 30 that women learn how to put themselves first and their partners second, and other’s opinions about them last.
[–]husheveryoneFDS Apprentice4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, and I’ve noticed the allowable age gap for me widens again after 45 (an age I’m approaching). A 45 year old dating a 65 year old (who is a match in terms of overall physical health) doesn’t seem too weird either.
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[–]BalkankaFDS Disciple13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. He’s a creep.
[–]flamingo_clouds2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol when I was 14 I got with this 21 year old pedophile. Looking bad, good god he was a fucking loser. Literally had no life. Thank god I smartened up.
edit: online, not irl, thankfully
[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
facts
[–]UFCRaven1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I noticed this a LOT
[–]---Merciless---FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True
[–]lookingforsigns1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or older, they see it too but care less.
[–]Beata1415FDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth
[+]KweenOfKawaiiFDS Newbie[🍰] -34 points-33 points-32 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I’m dating a 37 year old...I’m 21. Ladies come roast me and talk some sense into me
[–]mountaindewme22FDS Newbie62 points63 points64 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"dating"
[–]KweenOfKawaiiFDS Newbie[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂😂
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are being used.
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[–]KweenOfKawaiiFDS Newbie[🍰] -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn. Sis I’m bald
[–]lhatehijabyouwearitFDS Disciple15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Girl, he's using you. As one 21 yr old to another, he's not serious about you and only using you for sex. What can a limp dick, bald ugly old man gonna do for you that a late hot twenties man can't do? Nothing. A guy in his twenties can do whatever you want, while being serious about you. Is it because of money? Because if it is, he knows it too and will treat you just like a prostitute gold digging whore while he looks for another woman who has values and closer to his age. There are rich guys in their twenties, they just won't be using online dating. Go out to the rich people places and talk to young men there.
[+]KweenOfKawaiiFDS Newbie[🍰] -6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He’s not rich. And i get you sis, there are times i feel like I’m missing out on the younger ones
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