I hate double standards

SpanishM · 2021-10-19T02:45:24+00:00

Misandry is mostly a reaction to misogyny and informed by evidence.

These kind of statements always remind me of the Grey's Law:

"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice"

TheSpaceDuck · 2021-10-19T11:03:55+00:00

This article is an absolute trainwreck, and potentially dangerous as it deliberately hides female violence that comes from this sentiment.

Theirs is a non-violent resistance.

I guess tell that to Mark Van Dongen, who rejected a woman only to be attacked with acid as she said "If I can't have you, no one will". Oh wait we can't tell him, he's dead now after months of suffering.

We should also tell that to the woman who stabbed a man for refusing sex and then threatened to accuse him of rape if he went to the hospital.

Or the woman who set her husband's genitals on fire because he hugged another woman, then claimed "I just wanted to burn his penis so it belongs to me and no one else. ... I didn't mean this to happen".

Rather than blaming the opposite sex for their unhappiness, as some of their male counterparts do

A quick look at FDS would immediately show you it's precisely the opposite. Blaming men is a defining trait in these groups. Even the author herself proceeds to blame men for women's involuntary celibacy, go figure.

“The biggest difference between men and women seems to be that men feel entitled to sex and relationships"

Last time I checked it was women who frequently believed men have no right to say no to sex and men's experiences rejecting women seem to have plenty of entitlement and aggression in them.

The scariest thing is: this comes from a mainstream newspaper, not some shady corner of the internet. When you have mainstream media openly covering up for gender violence and attempting to justify it, you know we've reached a worrying point.

Algoresball · 2021-10-19T13:01:00+00:00

If you look at the writers tweeter, a bunch of the replies are a like “ thanks for bringing this important issue to our attention, what are we going to do about this?” I’m sorry what? I thought no one was entitled to sex. These women should hit the gym and and work on their personality

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n · 2021-10-19T07:05:43+00:00

Is the woman in The Guardians article image pissed off that two gay guys are having sex and she ain't involved? XD

Blauwpetje · 2021-10-19T10:48:00+00:00

Fascinating article. I just scroll through it, but get the impression almost everything that's said in it is exactly the other way round.

Fast-Mongoose-4989 · 2021-10-19T01:42:04+00:00

This article points men in a bad light while painting femcells in a good light and just a lot of double standards and pure hypocrisy but I recommend you read it to better understand how absurd it actually is I wish they had just as much compassion for incels as they do fore femcels then maybe some good can come out of this.

helloiseeyou2020 · 2021-10-19T02:24:29+00:00

What a terrible, terrible, terrible article

Vandechoz · 2021-10-19T02:50:18+00:00

they're calling these women celibate just because they've had a long dry spell, because their standards are too high (their words, not mine)?

how is that in any way the same as men who have been alone for their entire lives, and can't even get a date?

BloomingBrains · 2021-10-19T18:36:54+00:00

In short, its "where have all the good men gone"?

What I find interesting is that a lot of the complaints like "I feel unattractive and invisible", "I don't see ugly women with handsome men, only the other way around" are exactly the same kind of complaints male incels make. That alone gives me an urge to take their experiences at face value.

On the other hand, when you look at the fact that a lot of them are older and merely haven't had sex/intimacy recently (which is generally true of pretty much all single older people, I'd wager), rather than never or rarely, it tempts one to lose all sympathy. This is basically someone in the first world complaining about third world problems they don't actually have whilst downplaying ones who really do have those problems. Oops, I just defined western feminism.

Anyway, these women don't know what its like to be treated like an unlovable freak and a monster, told that you think they're entitled to the opposite sex's bodies, cynically told that there is no way they could possibly be genuinely nice and must simply be faking it as a manipulation, having the opposite sex treat you like a threat just for walking up to them and saying hello, etc. They merely passed up all their genuinely good chances for a relationship in their 20's and are complaining that they very people they ignored don't want to repay them with adoration. I don't want to stoop to their level by calling them "entitled" but it does seem very much to me like a grave they dug themselves.

Another thing that popped out to me was how the author touched on complaints that men aren't good sexual partners because they never cared about the woman's pleasure unless it was a loving relationship, which they apparently didn't want either. Frankly, on both accounts, I think this generalization is complete bullshit. There are a ton of guys out there that both want to do both things. Again, they were clearly passed up. If you keep on finding men that treat you callously, what does that say about you? Is it possible that you're simply attracted to dark triad types?

wrekd · 2021-10-19T11:33:19+00:00

Which I why the Guardian is shit and cannot be trusted.

over348 · 2021-10-19T05:42:24+00:00

I would be interested to know how big the male incel community is compared to the femcel community?

Maldevinine · 2021-10-19T04:08:46+00:00

Apart from all the man bashing (seriously, they took a break every couple of sentences just to reinforce the men=bad narrative) I quite like the article. It's an honest discussion of how changes in the dating market have resulted in groups of people losing out, and the thoughts and beliefs that go with it.

Now we just need to strip all the man-bashing out and make it gender neutral, and we'd actually be getting somewhere to fixing the problem.

griii2 · 2021-11-15T14:49:41+00:00

The whole article is absolute trainwreck, but these are my two top moments:

“I’m not conventionally attractive and I never get approached by men,” she says.

OMG, she is clearly willing to get approached! What is wrong with all the men, why are they not approaching her? The suffering must be unbearable!

Jane, 49, has been single for eight years and celibate for five. Although she would love to have a sex life, she is not prepared to compromise her principles by seeking a casual relationship

She is literally doing everything humanly possible to have a sex life, except maybe for hooking up with men. Being femcel is so dam hard!

Title	I hate double standards
Author	Fast-Mongoose-4989
Upvotes	121
Comments	48
Date	October 19, 2021 1:37 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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