Ur right, is the worst investment. I’d rather play poker than play to find a “good woman”
No one would buy a brand & model of car if they were aware that 10% of the owners of it got into horrible crashes.
The statistics on marriage are many times worse -- and the "injury" probably at least as harmful to your well-being (not to mention the "fate" of your "family/children").
I just go back to this analogy. You're about to go sky diving and the instructor looks at you and says, "Put this chute on - it only deploys 30% of the time."
When faced with odds like that in a life or death situation, anybody sane knows what they'd do.
I just go back to this analogy. You're about to go sky diving and the instructor looks at you and says, "Put this chute on - it only deploys 30% of the time."
Even if the instructor said "It does deploy like ~90% of the time" -- virtually no one would go skydiving.
But they DO get married... regardless of the odds (granted a lot of them perforce but still).
yeah, that was the main gist - she was prob being a total powercunt before he went on break, a friend of his showed him some good red pill content like Sandman, then all kinds of lightbulbs went off about her.
MY boyfriend learned that by being in a relationship with me he was exposing himself to severe potential financial and social danger.... that's not fair !
It's also not fair that men like her boyfriend have done nothing but try to love a woman and been financially destroyed and socially shamed / outcast because a woman decided to use the unfair power and appeal they ave in our society. Dude decided to bail before life got worse, good for him .
MY boyfriend learned that by being in a relationship with me he was exposing himself to severe potential financial and social danger.... that's not fair!
If not fake, 100% guaranteed that’s not the whole story and in reality she has at least some blame. They can’t help but lie anonymously online to other anonymous strangers. Incredible minds.
And it’s unfortunate how so many traits of a pathological narcissist are considered valuable and admirable in our society. It’s misconstrued as strength, confidence, and good leadership.
I didn’t realize until I was a grown ass man that my own dad is a pathological narcissist. Now, so many idiosyncrasies, habits, and personality traits from the past make so much sense and I was helpless against it because I grew up in that realty. I think this kind of person will be around forever, even if people become aware of it, as some are with Donald Trump. Same with bullying, you can have campaigns and awareness but there will always be bullies to pick on a helpless kid.
Apparently incidences of pathological narcissism have tripled with the millenial generation. I've been in relationships with a couple of them, and my father is one. I finally understand them well enough to identify and destroy them.
Undermine their sources of narcissistic supply. Help the people they are draining. Know what their ego is sensitive to, and their weak points and tell them what their weaknesses are. Something like saying they can't get on with anyone, because all narcissists struggle to hold onto friends long term. But their ego requires that everyone idolise them. Expose that you know that they aren't half what they imagine they are. You've got to strike when they are vulnerable though.
That's only the final step. And only works when they are vulnerable. You have to undermine their sources of narcissistic supply first. A source of narcissistic supply is usually a person that they have pulled into their reality tunnel and sees them and the world in the same way that the narcissist sees themselves and the world. This is a person that helps reinforce the false self of the narcissist, they are the enablers. The narcissist usually pulls them in by ego stroking, and then slowly runs them into the ground so they lose all self esteem and are completely dominated by the narcissist, at which point the narcissist will discard them because they see them as weak and not a suitable source of narcissistic supply. So you need to take their enablers away before they will be vulnerable to a "reality attack". You can do this buy educating the enablers on how they are being used by the narcissist.
Think of it like you're dealing with a heroin addict. As long as the heroin addict has a steady supply no amount of truth is going to get through to them, you have to take away their heroin, get them desperate before they'll consider making a change.
If they get a never ending stream of narc supply from social media (Instagram), then you just have to distance yourself, they are not your problem. Or you could expose them on social media, but in doing so, you'll make yourself a social pariah, because the narc will lie to everyone about you. The truth eventually shines through, but in the short term, they will burn all your bridges for you. Not really worth it. You're better off just undermining their direct enablers.
Convergence of events snowballed to create the toxic cocktail we now find ourselves swimming in. That 1860s court decision where women take the children in divorce, the vote in 1920, 1940s and 1960s women's entry into the workplace, feminism, and social media. Entry of women into the workplace has caused all manners of media to refocus on appealing to that demographic. This shift in media focus (marketing, entertainment, education) along with entry of women into politics has corrupted western civilization.
Will be interesting indeed to see how the rise of robotics, AI, love dolls, and the future of the artificial womb (though egg-mart and surrogates are available now) will figure into the dynamic. I'd estimate that somewhere between 50 and 150 years women may very well find that they have exactly what they had claimed to want - equality. No more special treatment, men no longer engaging with them, and pulling their own weight exclusively. Hunting season over.
Loneliness and isolation will increase in society like compounded interest and the hamster will spin like it's powered by a nuke reactor at full blast.
Yeah you two beat me to it. She claims that their relationship was perfect, that she never discussed marriage (and claimed in the comments that she doesnt ever want marraige, to this supposedly perfect guy, lmao). This story is clearly a giant load.
I GUARANTEE that the boyfriend in this story noticed signs of her being a future problem in his life, with the newfound knowledge of female behavior from RP.
True and women sometimes push men to the edge so the guy can be the one to break it off “out of the blue” and she can go on and play the innocent victim.
Been there and had that. After divorcing her, I later heard she'd remarked that 'out of nowhere suddenly I just wanted a divorce'. Guess she'd just failed to notice her obvious and ongoing transition within the seven-year relationship over its preceding 18 months from copacetic to a nagging, contentious, subversive psycho. Selective powers of observation me thinks.
I agree completely. She references MGTOW and doesn't really explain how that comes into play. I get how it's the idea the boyfriend adopted but no one is gonna interpret the benefits of MGTOW over their relationship if it doesn't already show a signs of toxicity that MGTOW explicitly avoids.
Women will always blame the man for the end of relationships. I've been talking to a girl here on Reddit recently, and she has not taken any responsibility for herself and her last relationship. She said, "...I'm never going to get in a relationship with another guy again, like ever."
Indeed, still most men take a huge shock or something really terrible to tear them out of the matrix/are willing to accept red pilled for the truth it is.
I got lucky... had too much personal insecurity and was too short to get a date despite me "knowing" i was worth it (by trad cuck standards) got me asking questions after the one time i managed to get into a relationship with a vegan... P.S. that shit went sour because in good faith i informed her that whey based protein supplement is made from milk... i apparently ruined her vegan little world lol.
Idk i do stuff i enjoy, i live a minimalist lifestyle and even in my blue pill days i was never obsessed with social media or taking pictures ect.
I don't need proof of what i have or have not done nor do i feel the need to share it, i do not feel the need to "make a mark" and when i die my will is to be cremated and have my ashes scattered over the ocean.
I don't need to take up a slot under land in some hyper inflated wooden box pumped full of chemicals to prevent me from naturally decaying.
Ah gotcha, for a long time even before i was mgtow and even for a long while when i was still blue pilled i was already doing my own thing.
I learned early to not give a fuck about what others think as i grew up in an age when it was uncool and creepy to like video games and other geeky stuff.
Then at some point i unlearned not giving a fuck and that was a big mistake. Glad i was able to relearn it though.
My guess is that he ran into old friends or older relatives at the wedding who are currently getting crushed by their divorce. Said dudes got blasted and spilled their guts. The boyfriend freaked out because he's not anywhere close to his prime and never wants to be like those older guys when he's their age.
he ran into old friends or older relatives at the wedding who are currently getting crushed by their divorce. Said dudes got blasted and spilled their guts.
Ayup... in vino veritas.
Also might have even witnessed the BRIDE herself (not to mention various other married women) "flirting" with assorted other men -- to varying degrees, including some that were likely WAAAAAAY over the line of "just joking/having fun" -- IOW hypergamy in action.
yup... at this last thanksgiving family affair my nephew and his friend (both 20 yrs old) asked me why I never married. I said "do you like money?" "do you like your freedom?". I told them to google "Brifault's law" and "hypergamy". Then I told them some of the horror stories of friends of mine ruined because of marriage/divorce. But what about NAWALT? (they had no idea of the term but that was what they were asking about). I told them that yes, these women do exist, but by age 25 the few that are out there are all gone and locked up in the few (<1 in 10) marriages that actually have a chance of being "content".
Doesnt matter though. I didnt really listen to any older guy when I was 20 either. We all get to make our own mistakes.
Kinda what i was thinking, been some... juicy? bridezilla stories shared here, always find it fascinating how they think any such behaviours are ever allowable.
I'll bet soup to nuts, that he kept hearing from plenty of other married guys that is rest of that guy's life is going to be yes ma'am yes ma'am yes ma'am.
She got on the cross fire of a red pill rage. The greatest things of it is we got it all in that comment session: MGTOW trying to drop some knowledge, white knights, shaming language. That just made my night hahahah
Yeah, it's also hilarious because if they're resorting to it, they obviously don't have any better criticisms. And once their insults no longer work it's like "oh shit, wtf do we do now?" Haha gotcha bitch!
It all started on Thanksgiving. We were doing well when he (26M) went to his home town for a wedding. During that time he went dead silent on me. I didn't think too much about it because I figured he was busy. He was back in town with old friends, so I'm sure he wanted to catch up on old times. All of a sudden when he comes back in town he's being really curt with me. After begging him to come see me we finally went out like we used to do, but during that time he started spouting off about horrid marriage statistics, and how women have expectations that are unrealistic now. I've never done anything to him, we've never even talked about the idea of marriage. I mean, we've only been seeing each other since August, so why would we? I didn't understand where any of this was coming from. finally he tells me that he can't date anymore because he has to remain single after having his eyes opened by this movement.
The point is I don't think it's fair to break up with me and leave me after everything was going so good because some movement tells him that as a woman I'm supposed to screw him over. I'm so distraught over this.
Yeah, not sure. Pretty sure there will be deep fakes floating deeply around the whole net. At the same time YT deplatforms everything not communist and Matreon bans everybody who is associated with the word "penis" in the last 150 years in any way anywhere in the Universe. Seems legit, nothing to see here... MOVE! ALONG!
Watch your step, though, the feminists are squirting all over the floor from their masturbating to the "real news".
Ah surely it might have been indeed. BUT, you see, NOW, after a year, two maybe of slow proliferation of "hatred" it's suddenly starting to pop up in that tone. After the Purytge, Matreon, Clitoris Narrative Network coverage, probably other "steam release" "news" etc. Chances of damage cuntroll all-tempt are increased. Just cautious.
The purple (b/p)ill might get boosted because the numbers (morerage and diwhores industry faltering, frozen eggs thawing, childgirth dropping, millennials being tired from being fucked in the head so no sex needed, etc etc etc) are not favourable for the productive plantation. Could be just me being paranoid, but I'm not jumping on it on 1st occurrence.
I was told the other day that we love to celebrate virginity, just goes to show how little research people put into their arguments and cant wait to attack a man who doesn't put women on pedestals
I don't understand why so many of the commenters there are spouting "Incel! Incel!" they can't even comprehend that men would want to go be by ourselves.
Wtf. MGTOW is basically the opposite of being an Incel. We've been on the other side, and realized that the grass was not in fact greener.
Because they insist on not knowing the difference - it requires energy and thinking AND goes against their worldview. So everybody WANTS to have children and SHOULD be willing to just man up and unsingle mother her and her kindergarten.
I love how they think that saying shit like "I don't believe in marriage" * is somehow of "value."
Question is do they believe in "child support payments"? In default female/mother custody? In going to the court system, using accusations/allegations (false or exaggerated) and police to then "get what they want"? etc (And of course even THAT doesn't matter, because whatever they SAY on one day is irrelevant, it can easily be a LIE, and even if true, it's not "binding" -- they can SAY the opposite on the following day... and ultimately all that really matters is what they actually DO later on. Talk is not just cheap, it's worthless.)
* Or, as this writer (chick? dog? cat with internet access? who knows, who cares?) notes -- disclaiming being a "feminist" while at the same time declaring themselves to be an "egalitarian" -- as if there is a difference there; or again as if what they SAY matters at all.
Yeah that's what the OP is not getting. She may not believe in marriage but it doesn't matter how much you don't believe in the family court system because it will still fuck you raw and use talcum powder lube.
Not to split hairs, but as I understand it there is a difference. Egalitarianism is a belief in actual equality, whereas feminism is a supremacist movement that sees 'equality' as control and enslavement of males.
Not to split hairs, but as I understand it there is a difference. Egalitarianism is a belief in actual equality, whereas feminism is a supremacist movement that sees 'equality' as control and enslavement of males.
Since "actual equality" is impossible -- and is pragmatically impossible to even attempt to achieve without either literally chopping off the heads of the "tall poppies" or else vastly inordinate burdening (enslavement which requires some mechanism of control) of those more capable...
They are ultimately the same thing.
That you do not discern that, means you've swallowed a lot of hair-balls.
Yea we were kinda destroying that thread with facts and man power all while getting upvoted more than even OP lol. They closed it because they don’t like facts. It’s funny that the ideology called “progressive” or “liberal” these days actually means complete censoring and de-platforming of anyone who doesn’t think in their way.
Why would a MGTOW write this? All it will do is rekindle the flame towards MGTOW and increase the supression of the path. It would be counterproductive for a MGTOW to write something like that on relationship advice/inceltears/askmen/whereareallthegoodmen pretty much.
Who cares what it is though? Movement, philosophy, psychology, lifestyle, call it what you want - it's a path to truth and true happiness, and that's all that matters.
That thread was a fun read, and lol @ the attempted shaming and white-knighting.
"All MGTOW are virgins or incels!"
I'm willing to bet that most people that think this way have more sex, along with more variety, than everybody else. If you're reasonably successful you can rent whatever you want and it'll be way out of your league, especially if you want that to be exclusive. Then she goes away and you can get on with your life. A nice, clean transaction.
Casual dating, short-term dating, friends with benefits, escorts? Sounds like heaven.
Long-term exclusive relationships, cohabitation, and marriage?
"But you miss out on the deep connection with a woman! The vulnerability where you can open your soul to another person. "
Nah... in my experience, it's them constantly unloading their bullshit on the guy, even when their lives are basically a cake walk. Then, when you do open up, they store that info to use as ammunition if they ever need to.
a few months of dating her drove him to MGTOW, but don't worry guys she didn't do anything at all. Just your usual run-of-the-mill mind stealing MGTOWs. Just vampires preying on the supple vulnerable minds of lost-in-the-woods scared 29 year old men.
I love that because she doesn't have agency with what ideas germinate in her head, that means men work the same way. Maybe he was convinced, through his own agency with better reason and evidence.
Original text: "It all started on Thanksgiving. We were doing well when he (26M) went to his home town for a wedding. During that time he went dead silent on me. I didn't think too much about it because I figured he was busy. He was back in town with old friends, so I'm sure he wanted to catch up on old times. All of a sudden when he comes back in town he's being really curt with me. After begging him to come see me we finally went out like we used to do, but during that time he started spouting off about horrid marriage statistics, and how women have expectations that are unrealistic now. I've never done anything to him, we've never even talked about the idea of marriage. I mean, we've only been seeing each other since August, so why would we? I didn't understand where any of this was coming from. finally he tells me that he can't date anymore because he has to remain single after having his eyes opened by this movement.
The point is I don't think it's fair to break up with me and leave me after everything was going so good because some movement tells him that as a woman I'm supposed to screw him over. I'm so distraught over this.
EDIT: ok guys, two points 1) He's not stupid, not weak or something like that. Let's just keep this without ad hominem attacks. 2) Yeah, we never talked about marriage to each other, but the concept has come up. I don't want to do a ceremony or sign some paper. I watch my dad struggle with his ex wife (not my mother) who gives him hell because she is the vindictive bitch MGTOWS are talking about. I never want to face doing that, so I won't. Even the ceremony seems pointlessly expensive."
I bet she is starting to hit The Wall and getting baby rabies and stuff. Perhaps the guy heard the wedding was the guy getting trapped with a pregnancy.
The mods over there must be feminazis or something. They locked the thread because it was filling up with people supporting the guy for seeing the light and going his own way. Apparently they had wanted everyone to side with the poor innocent whamen and tell her the guy was in the wrong for acting of his own free will and making an informed decision.
She blames MGTOW, but I highly doubt this guy decided to dump a NAWALT just because he got red-pilled at a wedding. Chances are good that she is guilty of some serious shit that was weighing on him BEFORE he went to the wedding. She's just hamstering that MGTOW is to blame because it totes can't be her.
Goodness gracious. It's like a backwards topic where all the blue pill comments are downvoted and all the red pill comments are upvoted. WOOOW. I'm pretty shocked.
It's the "chameleon" stage she is in. She will naturally mirror herself to her man, assume his interests, his beliefs, his friends, etc. It is extremely effective because women, like this one, actually believe the crap they are saying and doing while in this mode. I am convinced they are not consciously trying to deceive, it is a natural survival trait hard wired thru millennia of evolution. But this state is impossible to maintain over a long period of time and the woman becomes increasingly uncomfortable in her chameleon skin. I've witnessed women going to incredible lengths while in this state and was always amazed when my girlfriends would revert to their "natural" state and shed thier chameleon skin.
"It's not fair for him to break up with me". It's not fair, it's a necessity. I wish him well, applauding the bullet he dodged so well. If being curt and pulling up statistics is enough to break a relationship, I give him distinction in his test with this Thot
This is contextless tbh, so is that entire sub. He might of had a legitimate reason to leave her or he might have just jumped the gun. If any sub should be quarantined and removed it should be any relationship related sub because it is completely impossible to give advice to someone unless you hear both sides of the story and you're able to at least partially deduce who is being more truthful. It's literally the reason why we have trained individuals who deal with this in therapy.
Oh, she doesnt think its fair that he just up and left? But women do that all the time to their husbands/boyfriends and then get called strong independent women who dont need a partner. The ones who leave their husbands get paid for it. No sympathy from me. He made a good choice and will live a better life for it.
The OP really believes she is a NAWALT. And she may very well be. What she and the other women posters cant ever seem to understand is the reality of men in this Feminism 3.0 era. That "success" in relationships is a case of "20/20 hindsight". You can never know you scored a "unicorn" or NAWALT until you are safely thru the minefield, with your sanity and wallet intact, at the end of your life and a 50+ year (Disney) marriage. And that uncertainty is completely unacceptable for increasing numbers of enlightened (MGTOW) men.
She seems like a nice enough gal and to the contrary to a lot of opinions I agree with her that it is unfair this is happening. But so is life, and society, especially to men. If we wanted fair, we all chose the wrong species.
He is free to make up his own mind and there's nothing entitling human beings to each other's companionship. It's sad that relationships have become without value, a risk for life even. But it's the truth.
There has to be more to this story, and I agree with another poster, what happened at the wedding?
A woman I broke up with said the same thing to her girlfriends: that she didn't understand why I broke up with her. Little did her friends know that as things got more serious she was completely unwilling to compromise on her family and mine (split time seeing them), was cold and manipulative, and never direct. She was also a lousy companion after I graduated from law school and was looking for a job. I ended up doing the work in the relationship, and other than sex, she was distant.
TL;DR. It's possible he brought up issues with her many times, and she hamstered it out of memory.
"But I didn't want to get married" several times in there.
That's not the point. She can still (and statistically will) destroy him in many ways without marriage. Pregnancy being one of them. You can destroy a man in an instant with that, no length of partnership involved there.
MGTOW didn't change your BF. MGTOW opened BF's eyes so he could see you clearly. That's why we use the metaphor, taking the red pill. BF sees the truth now.
I think he was already listening to MGTOW content before he left for the wedding. He just grew some balls and dumped his gf. Saving as many men as we possibly can.
Heheheeee my ex lost me to mgtow too. I found mgtow pretty much at the same time I met her. I first came to mgtow as an outsider. Someone linked to it from another subreddit saying something like "not like those psychos over at r/MGTOW". So naturally I clicked and started reading. I was basically against it at first, but then as my relationship went on, I started seeing things in her that confirmed what mgtows were saying. After every fight, every little lie, every time she tried to pull some feminist bullshit. Finally had enough and literally said fuck you, I'm going MGTOW, and broke up with her. I wanted her to look it up. I wanted her to see what mgtow are saying, and that we see through their lies and manipulations. I wanted her to see the proverbial writing on the wall. I wanted her to know my true power level only after I had disappeared from her life like a phantom in the night.
I'm 100% sure that no dude would dump his GF while in the 1st stages of a relationship where the infatuation is at an all high if there weren't some goddamn serious red flags.
everything about mgtow maybe correct, but if you find someone that chases you more than you chase her, thats something. if your women works just as much as you do, and does just about everything you do, she may be just as much as a wgtow as much as yourself are mgtow.
Let's reverse the situation here: this is a "person going their own way." Their partner, by their account, hasn't seemed to exhibit signals of craziness, nor hasn't acted in a way that a normal person wouldn't act.
This person who had gone their own way, has done so after finding out that marriages don't last , from their friend. They ghosted their partner, and had probably left without any kind of discussion.
Let's do business terms: a business you've done business with, and have enjoyed profiting from each other, has read a statistic that many businesses and partnerships fail. That other business decides, unilaterally, to end the business relationship. No more contact. Ghosting.
Is this how businesses act? Is this how adults act? Is this how partners act? Is this how you act?
By all means, do your own thing, be yourself, explore this life on your terms. But know that you've gotten to this point with the help of those around you. Remember your actions have consequences, and sometimes it is the reputation you build from treating people poorly. If you treat someone who's supported you as if they don't matter in your life, word gets around .
A partner is an equal and a business partner is bound by a contract. Females are not the equals of men and nothing bounds their behavior. Further, AWALT. They're all NPCs, they all follow the same script. Everything they do can AT BEST be prefaced with "right now at this moment". Except oh look it's the next moment now! And the next one! And the next one!
I thought I had it all together But I was led astray The day you walked away You were the clock that was ticking in my home Changed my state of mind But love's so hard to find
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"Just move on, there are plenty of other men out there still available to exploitation."
Lol I'm getting banned for sure
Best post I could read b4 going to bed, one more man saved.
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The reply:
Is funny in terms of its ignorance... Translate it with RedPill and it becomes:
"Stop believing that EVERY chamber of a Russian Roulette gun is loaded."
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Ur right, is the worst investment. I’d rather play poker than play to find a “good woman”
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No one would buy a brand & model of car if they were aware that 10% of the owners of it got into horrible crashes.
The statistics on marriage are many times worse -- and the "injury" probably at least as harmful to your well-being (not to mention the "fate" of your "family/children").
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but but but,.... it won't happen to MEEEeee, we love each other and she's special. She'd never do that! (and i'm mostly making fun of myself)
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Xactly.
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I just go back to this analogy. You're about to go sky diving and the instructor looks at you and says, "Put this chute on - it only deploys 30% of the time."
When faced with odds like that in a life or death situation, anybody sane knows what they'd do.
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Even if the instructor said "It does deploy like ~90% of the time" -- virtually no one would go skydiving.
But they DO get married... regardless of the odds (granted a lot of them perforce but still).
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Exactly!!
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It is funny too because they were being sarcastic.
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More correctly they were TRYING to be... thought they were being.
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But they can think ALL men are out there trying to rape them? Got it.
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Phew lad, that is a damn good analogy. Will use in the future.
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Exploitation is correct:
Hope I don't get banned. After all we are here in OUR sub.
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I gotta wonder what she isn't saying. The guy didn't break up with her for no reason. Something about her red-pilled him.
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yeah, that was the main gist - she was prob being a total powercunt before he went on break, a friend of his showed him some good red pill content like Sandman, then all kinds of lightbulbs went off about her.
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If I wasn't already banned from that sub, I'd be getting banned on this one for sure.
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beautiful
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Ahahahah that made my day! Thanks for the laugh!
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I was wondering which mgtow bro said that lmao
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That was beautiful. MGTOW working like it is supposed to. Sorry ladies, we are the prize. Go figure out life on your own.
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Best comment lol
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It's also not fair that men like her boyfriend have done nothing but try to love a woman and been financially destroyed and socially shamed / outcast because a woman decided to use the unfair power and appeal they ave in our society. Dude decided to bail before life got worse, good for him .
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...to me
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If not fake, 100% guaranteed that’s not the whole story and in reality she has at least some blame. They can’t help but lie anonymously online to other anonymous strangers. Incredible minds.
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I know some narcissists in my life and I can’t wrap my head around what goes on inside their heads.
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And it’s unfortunate how so many traits of a pathological narcissist are considered valuable and admirable in our society. It’s misconstrued as strength, confidence, and good leadership.
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I didn’t realize until I was a grown ass man that my own dad is a pathological narcissist. Now, so many idiosyncrasies, habits, and personality traits from the past make so much sense and I was helpless against it because I grew up in that realty. I think this kind of person will be around forever, even if people become aware of it, as some are with Donald Trump. Same with bullying, you can have campaigns and awareness but there will always be bullies to pick on a helpless kid.
[–]autoeroticassfxation3 points4 points5 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Apparently incidences of pathological narcissism have tripled with the millenial generation. I've been in relationships with a couple of them, and my father is one. I finally understand them well enough to identify and destroy them.
[–]3rd_viewpoint0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
How do you destroy them?
[–]autoeroticassfxation0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Undermine their sources of narcissistic supply. Help the people they are draining. Know what their ego is sensitive to, and their weak points and tell them what their weaknesses are. Something like saying they can't get on with anyone, because all narcissists struggle to hold onto friends long term. But their ego requires that everyone idolise them. Expose that you know that they aren't half what they imagine they are. You've got to strike when they are vulnerable though.
[–]3rd_viewpoint0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
So, in other words, just tell all their shortcomings to their face?
[–]autoeroticassfxation0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's only the final step. And only works when they are vulnerable. You have to undermine their sources of narcissistic supply first. A source of narcissistic supply is usually a person that they have pulled into their reality tunnel and sees them and the world in the same way that the narcissist sees themselves and the world. This is a person that helps reinforce the false self of the narcissist, they are the enablers. The narcissist usually pulls them in by ego stroking, and then slowly runs them into the ground so they lose all self esteem and are completely dominated by the narcissist, at which point the narcissist will discard them because they see them as weak and not a suitable source of narcissistic supply. So you need to take their enablers away before they will be vulnerable to a "reality attack". You can do this buy educating the enablers on how they are being used by the narcissist.
Think of it like you're dealing with a heroin addict. As long as the heroin addict has a steady supply no amount of truth is going to get through to them, you have to take away their heroin, get them desperate before they'll consider making a change.
If they get a never ending stream of narc supply from social media (Instagram), then you just have to distance yourself, they are not your problem. Or you could expose them on social media, but in doing so, you'll make yourself a social pariah, because the narc will lie to everyone about you. The truth eventually shines through, but in the short term, they will burn all your bridges for you. Not really worth it. You're better off just undermining their direct enablers.
[–]RoboMandrake2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Convergence of events snowballed to create the toxic cocktail we now find ourselves swimming in. That 1860s court decision where women take the children in divorce, the vote in 1920, 1940s and 1960s women's entry into the workplace, feminism, and social media. Entry of women into the workplace has caused all manners of media to refocus on appealing to that demographic. This shift in media focus (marketing, entertainment, education) along with entry of women into politics has corrupted western civilization.
Will be interesting indeed to see how the rise of robotics, AI, love dolls, and the future of the artificial womb (though egg-mart and surrogates are available now) will figure into the dynamic. I'd estimate that somewhere between 50 and 150 years women may very well find that they have exactly what they had claimed to want - equality. No more special treatment, men no longer engaging with them, and pulling their own weight exclusively. Hunting season over.
[–]kyledontcare0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Loneliness and isolation will increase in society like compounded interest and the hamster will spin like it's powered by a nuke reactor at full blast.
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I run into so many narcissist these day , The brainwashing is so strong and pushing people into these behavior.
Empathic people are doomed to deal with monster. And when you fight with monster all your life you become one.
[–]TheRabbitTunnel2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah you two beat me to it. She claims that their relationship was perfect, that she never discussed marriage (and claimed in the comments that she doesnt ever want marraige, to this supposedly perfect guy, lmao). This story is clearly a giant load.
[–]Tercalerc17 points18 points19 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I GUARANTEE that the boyfriend in this story noticed signs of her being a future problem in his life, with the newfound knowledge of female behavior from RP.
[–]Yestromo13 points14 points15 points (1 child) | Copy Link
True and women sometimes push men to the edge so the guy can be the one to break it off “out of the blue” and she can go on and play the innocent victim.
[–]RoboMandrake4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Been there and had that. After divorcing her, I later heard she'd remarked that 'out of nowhere suddenly I just wanted a divorce'. Guess she'd just failed to notice her obvious and ongoing transition within the seven-year relationship over its preceding 18 months from copacetic to a nagging, contentious, subversive psycho. Selective powers of observation me thinks.
[–]Queracus2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, if she was such a phenomenal girlfriend he would have read RP stuff and said to himself “this doesn’t sound like her at all, what a relief!”
[–]LeafFallGround4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree completely. She references MGTOW and doesn't really explain how that comes into play. I get how it's the idea the boyfriend adopted but no one is gonna interpret the benefits of MGTOW over their relationship if it doesn't already show a signs of toxicity that MGTOW explicitly avoids.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Women will always blame the man for the end of relationships. I've been talking to a girl here on Reddit recently, and she has not taken any responsibility for herself and her last relationship. She said, "...I'm never going to get in a relationship with another guy again, like ever."
[–]worncete-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
It is super fake.
No woman would defend a man that broke up with her. Not even if it was George Clooney.
[–]KaitouNala151 points152 points153 points (22 children) | Copy Link
Kind of makes you wonder what happened at the wedding to make him finally embrace mgtow out of the blue?
May just have been time or maybe something happened at the wedding that woke him wide a fucking wake.
[–]SeaweedTasteBad71 points72 points73 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Either way he came home and said OH HELL NAW TO NAW NAW about relationships!
[–]KaitouNala56 points57 points58 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Indeed, still most men take a huge shock or something really terrible to tear them out of the matrix/are willing to accept red pilled for the truth it is.
I got lucky... had too much personal insecurity and was too short to get a date despite me "knowing" i was worth it (by trad cuck standards) got me asking questions after the one time i managed to get into a relationship with a vegan... P.S. that shit went sour because in good faith i informed her that whey based protein supplement is made from milk... i apparently ruined her vegan little world lol.
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[–]KaitouNala23 points24 points25 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Why? I care not for recognition nor do i want to further this cucked society.
If it were up to me i'd rather see it fall apart at the seams at this point, so why would i build something? why would i leave my mark on the world?
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[–]KaitouNala7 points8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Idk i do stuff i enjoy, i live a minimalist lifestyle and even in my blue pill days i was never obsessed with social media or taking pictures ect.
I don't need proof of what i have or have not done nor do i feel the need to share it, i do not feel the need to "make a mark" and when i die my will is to be cremated and have my ashes scattered over the ocean.
I don't need to take up a slot under land in some hyper inflated wooden box pumped full of chemicals to prevent me from naturally decaying.
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[–]KaitouNala5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah gotcha, for a long time even before i was mgtow and even for a long while when i was still blue pilled i was already doing my own thing.
I learned early to not give a fuck about what others think as i grew up in an age when it was uncool and creepy to like video games and other geeky stuff.
Then at some point i unlearned not giving a fuck and that was a big mistake. Glad i was able to relearn it though.
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but im a rare exception heh
[–]kaolin22438 points39 points40 points (4 children) | Copy Link
My guess is that he ran into old friends or older relatives at the wedding who are currently getting crushed by their divorce. Said dudes got blasted and spilled their guts. The boyfriend freaked out because he's not anywhere close to his prime and never wants to be like those older guys when he's their age.
[–]DWShimoda12 points13 points14 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Ayup... in vino veritas.
Also might have even witnessed the BRIDE herself (not to mention various other married women) "flirting" with assorted other men -- to varying degrees, including some that were likely WAAAAAAY over the line of "just joking/having fun" -- IOW hypergamy in action.
[–]PalmelaHanderson_II-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
Veritas vincit.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
yup... at this last thanksgiving family affair my nephew and his friend (both 20 yrs old) asked me why I never married. I said "do you like money?" "do you like your freedom?". I told them to google "Brifault's law" and "hypergamy". Then I told them some of the horror stories of friends of mine ruined because of marriage/divorce. But what about NAWALT? (they had no idea of the term but that was what they were asking about). I told them that yes, these women do exist, but by age 25 the few that are out there are all gone and locked up in the few (<1 in 10) marriages that actually have a chance of being "content".
Doesnt matter though. I didnt really listen to any older guy when I was 20 either. We all get to make our own mistakes.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
the real tragedy of life. Everybodys a dumb fuck below 21
although, Im 24, and I take the life advice of the old guys I know as gospel, so give it a few years and there'll be hope
[–]kyledontcare30 points31 points32 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe he ran into a MGTOW guy there who opened his eyes with a strong serving of red pills while there. It happens.
[–]people_watcher16 points17 points18 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Probably saw Bridezilla's attitude and noped the fuck outta there.
[–]KaitouNala7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Kinda what i was thinking, been some... juicy? bridezilla stories shared here, always find it fascinating how they think any such behaviours are ever allowable.
[–]Extract1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not from around here, so mind indulging me with a few links?
I always love a good bridezills story before bed.
[–]Griever1144 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'll bet soup to nuts, that he kept hearing from plenty of other married guys that is rest of that guy's life is going to be yes ma'am yes ma'am yes ma'am.
[–]Sevyn132 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably a friend showed him.
Edit: a good friend
[–]Harrybud070 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I think he realized "law of marriage' or as I call it signing yourself into prison...
after all, he was heading to city hall for papers, post wedding ceremony... for prison signing exercise...
[–]K_H2002137 points138 points139 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Best thing Ive read all day! Thanks for posting it! 👌🏼
[–][deleted] 41 points42 points43 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Savage
[–]SeaweedTasteBad17 points18 points19 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Macho Man Randy
Savage
In the house
[–]tdh7925 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oooooooooo, yeah!
[–]labiteatibit4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Can you dig it!!
[–]tyronwind86 points87 points88 points (2 children) | Copy Link
She got on the cross fire of a red pill rage. The greatest things of it is we got it all in that comment session: MGTOW trying to drop some knowledge, white knights, shaming language. That just made my night hahahah
[–]mutageno19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys will join. If we are openly promoting MGTOW we'll be kicked out of every platform around. They are already demonetizing MGTOW.
Rules 1 & 2.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's the worst place for a woman to be. In the crossfire of the red pill rage
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[–]RoboMandrake14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
'Ad hominem' and diversion.
[–]BottleCap-SnackTrap5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah Its quite ridiculous how the incel result being used towards me made me angry when the term MGTOW comes together within their shaming.
But the same as you, I let it slide off me. Incels themselves just need to get laid, that's literally all they have to do. But they refuse to.
[–]RPDunkleBomb3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Incel is by default a bad insult to an mgtow since the premise implies that we value women and a physical relationship with one. Many of us do not.
[–]peeeeeeenus0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, it's also hilarious because if they're resorting to it, they obviously don't have any better criticisms. And once their insults no longer work it's like "oh shit, wtf do we do now?" Haha gotcha bitch!
[–]80173553 points54 points55 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, not sure. Pretty sure there will be deep fakes floating deeply around the whole net. At the same time YT deplatforms everything not communist and Matreon bans everybody who is associated with the word "penis" in the last 150 years in any way anywhere in the Universe. Seems legit, nothing to see here... MOVE! ALONG!
Watch your step, though, the feminists are squirting all over the floor from their masturbating to the "real news".
[–]IamBili21 points22 points23 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You're right
On a second thought, the wording of this post doesn't seem like it was written by an emotionally invested women
[–]8017357 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah surely it might have been indeed. BUT, you see, NOW, after a year, two maybe of slow proliferation of "hatred" it's suddenly starting to pop up in that tone. After the Purytge, Matreon, Clitoris Narrative Network coverage, probably other "steam release" "news" etc. Chances of damage cuntroll all-tempt are increased. Just cautious.
The purple (b/p)ill might get boosted because the numbers (morerage and diwhores industry faltering, frozen eggs thawing, childgirth dropping, millennials being tired from being fucked in the head so no sex needed, etc etc etc) are not favourable for the productive plantation. Could be just me being paranoid, but I'm not jumping on it on 1st occurrence.
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The "incel" insults/shaming tactics are ripe over there lol
It is their only way of dealing with MGTOW since they cannot win in arguments as the evidence is against them.
[–]PucciSlayer300011 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I was told the other day that we love to celebrate virginity, just goes to show how little research people put into their arguments and cant wait to attack a man who doesn't put women on pedestals
[–]kyledontcare37 points38 points39 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Crap that's beautiful. This makes my day.
[–]Secret_Combo35 points36 points37 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Holy shit that's the most red pilled thread I've seen outside of the manosphere subreddits
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
All of the blue pill comments are downvoted. All the redpill comments upvoted. Craaazy.
[–]the6thpath35 points36 points37 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't understand why so many of the commenters there are spouting "Incel! Incel!" they can't even comprehend that men would want to go be by ourselves.
Wtf. MGTOW is basically the opposite of being an Incel. We've been on the other side, and realized that the grass was not in fact greener.
[–]8017355 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Because they insist on not knowing the difference - it requires energy and thinking AND goes against their worldview. So everybody WANTS to have children and SHOULD be willing to just man up and unsingle mother her and her kindergarten.
[–]RoboMandrake3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
TCGOTOS - that crab grass on the other side.
[–]CeleritySteam1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Because "incel" sticks better as a generic insult for people who disagree and/or reveal the truth than "alt right". That's it.
[–]DWShimoda24 points25 points26 points (5 children) | Copy Link
I love how they think that saying shit like "I don't believe in marriage" * is somehow of "value."
Question is do they believe in "child support payments"? In default female/mother custody? In going to the court system, using accusations/allegations (false or exaggerated) and police to then "get what they want"? etc (And of course even THAT doesn't matter, because whatever they SAY on one day is irrelevant, it can easily be a LIE, and even if true, it's not "binding" -- they can SAY the opposite on the following day... and ultimately all that really matters is what they actually DO later on. Talk is not just cheap, it's worthless.)
* Or, as this writer (chick? dog? cat with internet access? who knows, who cares?) notes -- disclaiming being a "feminist" while at the same time declaring themselves to be an "egalitarian" -- as if there is a difference there; or again as if what they SAY matters at all.
[–]oprahsbuttplug13 points14 points15 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah that's what the OP is not getting. She may not believe in marriage but it doesn't matter how much you don't believe in the family court system because it will still fuck you raw and use talcum powder lube.
[–]DWShimoda9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe these days the court's preference is pumice.
[–]Resident_Kiwi11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course women believe in things like child support and alimony, but only up until they have to pay for it themselves.
[–]RoboMandrake1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Not to split hairs, but as I understand it there is a difference. Egalitarianism is a belief in actual equality, whereas feminism is a supremacist movement that sees 'equality' as control and enslavement of males.
[–]DWShimoda-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
Since "actual equality" is impossible -- and is pragmatically impossible to even attempt to achieve without either literally chopping off the heads of the "tall poppies" or else vastly inordinate burdening (enslavement which requires some mechanism of control) of those more capable...
They are ultimately the same thing.
That you do not discern that, means you've swallowed a lot of hair-balls.
[–]MiddleAgedMGTOW24 points25 points26 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A life saved!
[–]RevolverHotTubRevive20 points21 points22 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Why are mods on reddit allowed to close threads due to 'not liking where the discussion is headed'? Way to promote your nazi agenda
[–]simplisticallysimple10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
To suppress the truth
[–]On_The_Tweek_Again7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea we were kinda destroying that thread with facts and man power all while getting upvoted more than even OP lol. They closed it because they don’t like facts. It’s funny that the ideology called “progressive” or “liberal” these days actually means complete censoring and de-platforming of anyone who doesn’t think in their way.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thot destroyer
[–]gigasimpdeluxe18 points19 points20 points (3 children) | Copy Link
This is totally written by a mgtow lol.
[–]Asyhlt8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it really seems like it, but the post history of op could suggest otherwise. No idea what to make of it.
[–]ListenUpMuthaFucka6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah man. Upon a second reading it's fucking obvious. Reads like cringe fan fiction.
Still I had some laughs commenting the first time around and the blue pillers are always fun to squabble with
[–]FlameForgeD20 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why would a MGTOW write this? All it will do is rekindle the flame towards MGTOW and increase the supression of the path. It would be counterproductive for a MGTOW to write something like that on relationship advice/inceltears/askmen/whereareallthegoodmen pretty much.
[–]flee_market17 points18 points19 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Sounds like a trollpost, in other words a day ending in Y on that subreddit
[–]thequarenteenpill19 points20 points21 points (0 children) | Copy Link
their account is very old. so its seems legit
[–]atheos4218 points19 points20 points (2 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is not a "movement", it is a natural response to a system that promotes the exploitation and slavery of men.
[–]RoboMandrake2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Indeed, it is more so a philosophy than a movement.
[–]FlameForgeD22 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Who cares what it is though? Movement, philosophy, psychology, lifestyle, call it what you want - it's a path to truth and true happiness, and that's all that matters.
[–]kaolin22418 points19 points20 points (2 children) | Copy Link
That thread was a fun read, and lol @ the attempted shaming and white-knighting.
"All MGTOW are virgins or incels!"
I'm willing to bet that most people that think this way have more sex, along with more variety, than everybody else. If you're reasonably successful you can rent whatever you want and it'll be way out of your league, especially if you want that to be exclusive. Then she goes away and you can get on with your life. A nice, clean transaction.
Casual dating, short-term dating, friends with benefits, escorts? Sounds like heaven.
Long-term exclusive relationships, cohabitation, and marriage?
"But you miss out on the deep connection with a woman! The vulnerability where you can open your soul to another person. "
Nah... in my experience, it's them constantly unloading their bullshit on the guy, even when their lives are basically a cake walk. Then, when you do open up, they store that info to use as ammunition if they ever need to.
[–]KanoDoMario0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love the fact that MGTOW guys get way more sex than the IncelTears users, the r/MensLib folks, basically every left wing Reddit community.
[–]flee_market0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
..so that she can then take a giant steaming shit in it! :D
Sounds great where do I sign
[–]Mgtow_troaway10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
as usual, IT JUST HAPPENED
a few months of dating her drove him to MGTOW, but don't worry guys she didn't do anything at all. Just your usual run-of-the-mill mind stealing MGTOWs. Just vampires preying on the supple vulnerable minds of lost-in-the-woods scared 29 year old men.
I love that because she doesn't have agency with what ideas germinate in her head, that means men work the same way. Maybe he was convinced, through his own agency with better reason and evidence.
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Ladies and gentlemen...
We got him
[–]desistrategist11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
find this guy for a MGTOW AMA!
[–]NeedMGTOWAdvice10 points11 points12 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Original text: "It all started on Thanksgiving. We were doing well when he (26M) went to his home town for a wedding. During that time he went dead silent on me. I didn't think too much about it because I figured he was busy. He was back in town with old friends, so I'm sure he wanted to catch up on old times. All of a sudden when he comes back in town he's being really curt with me. After begging him to come see me we finally went out like we used to do, but during that time he started spouting off about horrid marriage statistics, and how women have expectations that are unrealistic now. I've never done anything to him, we've never even talked about the idea of marriage. I mean, we've only been seeing each other since August, so why would we? I didn't understand where any of this was coming from. finally he tells me that he can't date anymore because he has to remain single after having his eyes opened by this movement.
The point is I don't think it's fair to break up with me and leave me after everything was going so good because some movement tells him that as a woman I'm supposed to screw him over. I'm so distraught over this.
EDIT: ok guys, two points 1) He's not stupid, not weak or something like that. Let's just keep this without ad hominem attacks. 2) Yeah, we never talked about marriage to each other, but the concept has come up. I don't want to do a ceremony or sign some paper. I watch my dad struggle with his ex wife (not my mother) who gives him hell because she is the vindictive bitch MGTOWS are talking about. I never want to face doing that, so I won't. Even the ceremony seems pointlessly expensive."
[–]bt9992 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the copy/paste. The original has been removed.
[–]NeedMGTOWAdvice2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I had the tab open before it got deleted. Posted it after I saw it got deleted, see how cool I am?
[–]bt9993 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You have an instinct for the unacceptable.
[–]suhmydudessssss8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's splash one bogey
[–]Curious_Oogway9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
His friend is a true friend indeed.
[–]everythangspeachie6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Its a fake post, look at the very bottom of the comments. It sgows another post of the same user posting as a man
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[–]Rdrums3111 points12 points13 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Probably true. But at least it facilitated a lot of red pill discussion in the comments.
[–]SilverGryphon3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She seems to be implying that men have no right to dump their girlfriends who bother them about marriage. So much for muh equality.
This means that she has most likely pestered him about it, but it is typical of female nature to downplay facts that make her look bad.
[–]justicecantakeanap6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
> This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/relationship_advice
> New comments cannot be posted
Classic
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipTwjwrQYQ
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He's not yours. It's just your turn.
[–]sharpguyinatie3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
One year shy of hitting the WALL? That’s a pump and dump.
[–]Graypube883 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for him 👏👏. MGTOW SAVES LIVES.
[–]mutageno2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Anybody else note how she is 29 and he is 26?
I bet she is starting to hit The Wall and getting baby rabies and stuff. Perhaps the guy heard the wedding was the guy getting trapped with a pregnancy.
Occam's Razor.
[–]DankoJones844 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The mods over there must be feminazis or something. They locked the thread because it was filling up with people supporting the guy for seeing the light and going his own way. Apparently they had wanted everyone to side with the poor innocent whamen and tell her the guy was in the wrong for acting of his own free will and making an informed decision.
[–]GoDuke20183 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
damn! reading this made my day. Thanks!
[–]LJHova2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She blames MGTOW, but I highly doubt this guy decided to dump a NAWALT just because he got red-pilled at a wedding. Chances are good that she is guilty of some serious shit that was weighing on him BEFORE he went to the wedding. She's just hamstering that MGTOW is to blame because it totes can't be her.
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Goodness gracious. It's like a backwards topic where all the blue pill comments are downvoted and all the red pill comments are upvoted. WOOOW. I'm pretty shocked.
[–]Rivennoketsui1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Tbf the girl that posted it seems to be respectful to him and defend him.
[–]RoboMandrake1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She probably just hasn't yet realized her true potential yet - barring her being the actual from-a-practical-standpoint-nonexistent unicorn.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's the "chameleon" stage she is in. She will naturally mirror herself to her man, assume his interests, his beliefs, his friends, etc. It is extremely effective because women, like this one, actually believe the crap they are saying and doing while in this mode. I am convinced they are not consciously trying to deceive, it is a natural survival trait hard wired thru millennia of evolution. But this state is impossible to maintain over a long period of time and the woman becomes increasingly uncomfortable in her chameleon skin. I've witnessed women going to incredible lengths while in this state and was always amazed when my girlfriends would revert to their "natural" state and shed thier chameleon skin.
DON'T fall for it, the ruin of many a man.
[–]MeHaveAssBurgers2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The only problem now is that SJWs is becoming popular and theyre inceltears. Nobody even knows theyre a bunch of SJWs
[–]jmbfaria2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I would like to hear the ex-boyfriend side of the history. :)
[–]lestrenched2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"It's not fair for him to break up with me". It's not fair, it's a necessity. I wish him well, applauding the bullet he dodged so well. If being curt and pulling up statistics is enough to break a relationship, I give him distinction in his test with this Thot
[–]ziggmuff2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Motherfucking blessing in disguise.
[–]groovybooboo1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why would he want an older woman anyways?
[–]wielty2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is contextless tbh, so is that entire sub. He might of had a legitimate reason to leave her or he might have just jumped the gun. If any sub should be quarantined and removed it should be any relationship related sub because it is completely impossible to give advice to someone unless you hear both sides of the story and you're able to at least partially deduce who is being more truthful. It's literally the reason why we have trained individuals who deal with this in therapy.
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[–]STea140 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Does it chooch
[–]RooR_162 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, she doesnt think its fair that he just up and left? But women do that all the time to their husbands/boyfriends and then get called strong independent women who dont need a partner. The ones who leave their husbands get paid for it. No sympathy from me. He made a good choice and will live a better life for it.
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wow... comments in that thread. fun read
The OP really believes she is a NAWALT. And she may very well be. What she and the other women posters cant ever seem to understand is the reality of men in this Feminism 3.0 era. That "success" in relationships is a case of "20/20 hindsight". You can never know you scored a "unicorn" or NAWALT until you are safely thru the minefield, with your sanity and wallet intact, at the end of your life and a 50+ year (Disney) marriage. And that uncertainty is completely unacceptable for increasing numbers of enlightened (MGTOW) men.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
typical mgtow brigade. tons of well thought out and rationale explanations of mgtow. and all the blie pillers just all "...ehhh whatever....incel!".
they cant even argue with us because you cant deny our logic
[–]Browser20252 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's crazy they deleted any comments in support of mgtow.
[–]Dank-of-ENGLAND1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/a6k1dg/comment/ebw8hi7?st=JPQKU0EK&sh=82ad7942. This dude
[–]chadbhava2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What the fuck cuckiarchy
[–]GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
She seems like a nice enough gal and to the contrary to a lot of opinions I agree with her that it is unfair this is happening. But so is life, and society, especially to men. If we wanted fair, we all chose the wrong species.
He is free to make up his own mind and there's nothing entitling human beings to each other's companionship. It's sad that relationships have become without value, a risk for life even. But it's the truth.
[–]jrpark051 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
There has to be more to this story, and I agree with another poster, what happened at the wedding?
A woman I broke up with said the same thing to her girlfriends: that she didn't understand why I broke up with her. Little did her friends know that as things got more serious she was completely unwilling to compromise on her family and mine (split time seeing them), was cold and manipulative, and never direct. She was also a lousy companion after I graduated from law school and was looking for a job. I ended up doing the work in the relationship, and other than sex, she was distant.
TL;DR. It's possible he brought up issues with her many times, and she hamstered it out of memory.
[–]8017351 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"You should have manned more upper!"
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[–]simplisticallysimple1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
When based comments appear, they call it "brigading." And thus they lock up the thread.
[–]Sebastian7861 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Magnificent Magnificent Magnificent!!
[–]ibz6461 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"eyes open by this Movement" is an understatement 😂😂😂😂 its more than that
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[–]KanoDoMario-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
All of those 3 subs brigade way more than this one, but Reddit admins don't care.
[–]Danger_Dave_1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"But I didn't want to get married" several times in there.
That's not the point. She can still (and statistically will) destroy him in many ways without marriage. Pregnancy being one of them. You can destroy a man in an instant with that, no length of partnership involved there.
[–]CameronSins1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
cocodrile tears now ,lol
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The post was locked, many MGTOWS went there haha hahah fuck in awesome.
Looks like I haven't got banned so I got a nut pass for the next post they create about MGTOWs saving other men
[–]outonadaypass0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Same. I thought for sure the ban hammer would hit.
[–]WheresHarveyDent1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit! Those comments. That whole thread is covered with MGTOW men. Amazing!
[–]lulz3r1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Aw, he’s got a chance at being happy. Good for him.
[–]nosoupforyou1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I've been wondering why I keep seeing relationship_advice threads on my home page. I didn't think I had that subscribed.
Now I get it.
[–]robowriter1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
As a woman vegetating in the legal and social conditions created for us in Western societies "screwing him over" is almost a foregone conclusion.
[–]RocknR0IIa1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Which one of you did this! 🤣
[–]drew80801 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
mission accomplished
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Its obvious she didn't take any of his fears seriously. his interaction was probably like saying "tell me you are not like that"
clearly it didn't go so well. he dodged a bullet imo.
[–]RedMeatTrinket1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW didn't change your BF. MGTOW opened BF's eyes so he could see you clearly. That's why we use the metaphor, taking the red pill. BF sees the truth now.
Let him go. Don't be that type of GF.
[–]hapl_o1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Something tells me that we haven't heard the complete story here. She's crying like she's perfect which only a... Ahhhh.....
[–]Griever1141 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The comments are amazing
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I think he was already listening to MGTOW content before he left for the wedding. He just grew some balls and dumped his gf. Saving as many men as we possibly can.
[–]nifty_n0ah1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Whoever you are, welcome home brother!
[–]DickRulez1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
One down, a few billion more to go! We can do it!
[–]MesaBoogeyMan1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Loooool awesome! Another man dodges a bullet and lives free!
[–]38yearsoffreefallin1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Tide is turning. Moreee!!
[–]vivab0rg1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Congrats brothers. It's happening.
[–]CBDOnMyMind31 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Those comments are badass. People are waking up to smell the roses
[–]PorkBomber1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW saving bros!
[–]Harrybud071 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
19 hours ago
"I don't think it's fair to break up with me and leave me after everything was going so [well]..."
He doesn't owe you his attention, much less his affection**, "young lady. Man up and move on."**
oh... the cat's out of the hat, I love it...
[–]peeeeeeenus1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Heheheeee my ex lost me to mgtow too. I found mgtow pretty much at the same time I met her. I first came to mgtow as an outsider. Someone linked to it from another subreddit saying something like "not like those psychos over at r/MGTOW". So naturally I clicked and started reading. I was basically against it at first, but then as my relationship went on, I started seeing things in her that confirmed what mgtows were saying. After every fight, every little lie, every time she tried to pull some feminist bullshit. Finally had enough and literally said fuck you, I'm going MGTOW, and broke up with her. I wanted her to look it up. I wanted her to see what mgtow are saying, and that we see through their lies and manipulations. I wanted her to see the proverbial writing on the wall. I wanted her to know my true power level only after I had disappeared from her life like a phantom in the night.
[–]ecwolf20161 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Darn it, original post has been deleted. Was looking forward to a good read.
[–]RedditRouge00[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The OP of that post got brigaded so bad she deleted it lmao.
[–]scared-of-girls0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Success! We have been keeping his seat open for this moment forever
[–]bsga220 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If being away from her for a few days/weeks was enough to get him to leave her, it seems the relationship wasn't that strong.
[–]SolidBadger90 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Remember the story of the Frog and the Scorpion?
[–]Sp0kySc4rySk3l3t0n0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ladies and gentleman. We got 'im
[–]Zetaghostmale0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
My Christmas gift has arrived ahead of time. A big smile in my face for a long time :)
[–]ABrokenBeing0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my oh my.
That’s a juicy one right there.
[–]ApertureBear0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit, you'd think you'd understand what we're talking about after watching your father be destroyed by a (two?) cunt.
[–]Longtermsmurf0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Put it this way, I think he was nuts for dating a woman older than him. I would never date a woman unless she was at least 10yrs younger.
[–]TwentyOneBeers0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 100% sure that no dude would dump his GF while in the 1st stages of a relationship where the infatuation is at an all high if there weren't some goddamn serious red flags.
[–]Kalistoned0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
everything about mgtow maybe correct, but if you find someone that chases you more than you chase her, thats something. if your women works just as much as you do, and does just about everything you do, she may be just as much as a wgtow as much as yourself are mgtow.
[–]Texalian0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The comments on the thread are a sight to be seen
[–]BumKnickle0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
we raise our beer glass to the newest member "welcome to sanity world son where our eyes are open and our money our own"
[–]5hubham0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
One more soul saved.
[–]ivkemilioner0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Comments are gold
[–]Atton_Risk0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The power given to her by gynocentrism will corrupt her. This boy friend saw this and did what had to be done.
[–]Depressedkid19980 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Some of the comments there are pretty awesome
[–]iVah1d0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
i fucking love the comment in there !
[–]omen_tenebris0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
[–]azynporter0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well fuck me in the ass and call me Ashley Stewart. The comments in that post is a shit storm.
[–]Captainbuttman0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"all of those mgtow comments" lol
That thread will be used as justification for deleting this sub.
[–]Literally_A_turd_AMA0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah this has to be fake
[–]atlaspaine0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Is there an archive for this?
[–]nonoriginal850 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.removeddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/a6k1dg/29f_i_lost_my_boyfriend_to_mgtow/#
[–]DWS33_0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
i’m 100% sure she was a total bitch to him. Made him cook, clean, and probably starting to gain weight. Happy for him
[–]kramkrooz-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
We got em R2
[–]samep04[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
Let's reverse the situation here: this is a "person going their own way." Their partner, by their account, hasn't seemed to exhibit signals of craziness, nor hasn't acted in a way that a normal person wouldn't act.
This person who had gone their own way, has done so after finding out that marriages don't last , from their friend. They ghosted their partner, and had probably left without any kind of discussion.
Let's do business terms: a business you've done business with, and have enjoyed profiting from each other, has read a statistic that many businesses and partnerships fail. That other business decides, unilaterally, to end the business relationship. No more contact. Ghosting.
Is this how businesses act? Is this how adults act? Is this how partners act? Is this how you act?
By all means, do your own thing, be yourself, explore this life on your terms. But know that you've gotten to this point with the help of those around you. Remember your actions have consequences, and sometimes it is the reputation you build from treating people poorly. If you treat someone who's supported you as if they don't matter in your life, word gets around .
No man is an island.
[–]CeleritySteam0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A partner is an equal and a business partner is bound by a contract. Females are not the equals of men and nothing bounds their behavior. Further, AWALT. They're all NPCs, they all follow the same script. Everything they do can AT BEST be prefaced with "right now at this moment". Except oh look it's the next moment now! And the next one! And the next one!
[–]bfte2-1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
Are there any comments which read like "*SLURP* FEAR NOT, M'LADY! THIS GALLANT RIGHT HERE WILL TAKE YOU BY HIS SIDE!!"?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
yup
[–]leanafro-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
https://youtu.be/HHFFdy2NSdE
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I thought I had it all together
But I was led astray
The day you walked away
You were the clock that was ticking in my home
Changed my state of mind
But love's so hard to find