After reading CRT...

Ok_Significance_7038 · 2021-06-27T08:03:14+00:00

Can you break down what it is for me?

MezzaCorux · 2021-06-27T10:39:25+00:00

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GoelandAnonyme · 2021-06-27T12:26:22+00:00

How is this related to men's rights?

And what text did you read of CRT?

SamaelET · 2021-06-27T11:15:34+00:00

Isn't feminism Critical Gender Studies anyway : men bad women good. It is alreadt taught in several universities and worse at schools too.

nixon_talks · 2021-06-27T10:09:38+00:00

Amazed that some here are unawares of this. It's been in the main news cycle in the USA (I'm from Australia, not much here yet.)

GuapoEconomist · 2021-06-27T12:15:38+00:00

What did you read?

Hansjg05 · 2021-06-27T13:43:40+00:00

Scientifically speaking the best ages to indoctrinate a person is around 3-5 years old.

istira_balegina · 2021-06-27T09:11:51+00:00

It's really just feminism applied to race. It's a testament to female power that conservatives arent going after feminism. Or maybe conservative selectionism is a testament to conservatives actually being racists.

footm13 · 2021-06-27T12:07:35+00:00

I dont understand what you mean. CRT is literally the idea that we should study where our current legal system and society came from to determine whether it is inheritly preduicided agaisnt any race due to how it was founded. There is no white shaming or calling people racist. Its just the idea to examime where things came from , from the racial perspective .

Sure people will always take ideas to extremes and use it as a way to attack a race, but saying someone shouldnt be able to have the right to analyse the past because someone else wont like the outcome isnt right.

Current generations should not be held accountable for things there ancestors did , but that doesnt mean they shouldn't look to improve conditions for all humanity.

The_ZMD · 2021-06-27T12:28:43+00:00

France is fighting it.

kandradeece · 2021-06-27T11:21:35+00:00

Hell, i have a kid due in a week so ive been looking at day cares.... they already teach CRT... but they didn't name it that per say. Just read their "curriculum " and its all about teaching privilege... im like.. wtf. For reference im in MA

Grand_Ad_864 · 2021-06-27T13:40:00+00:00

It's already here. There is no shortage of people, even teachers in school who proclaim all the evil in the world is done by men. And the world would be a better place if it only had women. And that women leaders would be better.

JJ_Sama213 · 2021-06-27T16:54:23+00:00

CRT = Capillary Response Time.

forevarabone · 2021-06-27T13:46:44+00:00

CRT is for college level graduate students. Literally no one is teaching it to children.

Cruxito1111 · 2021-06-27T13:53:17+00:00

This is Not my post, it’s from someone else:

“I think you are, like tucker carlson, misinterpreting the purpose and foundations of critical race theory. America has deeply-embedded systemic expressions of racism, from law to banking and more. Because of this complex and multigenerational problem, marginalized/minority groups generally, but black folks specifically, have been denied the sort of compounding wealth that whites were not. And before we go any further, I have to say that it isn't our "whiteness" that makes it so, it's just the fact that we happen to be the dominant group, and so it only makes sense that our society would benefit the dominant group. In a different timeline, who knows, maybe the roles are reversed. But it's the power relationship that's at issue.

Even when we don't consider the direct ways in which blacks were denied these things (think Tulsa race massacre, Jim Crow, etc), the subtle systemic problems all combine to oppress people over time. And the really insidious thing about systemic factors is that no single person need even be responsible, so there might not be anyone to "blame". Sure, sharecropping was a "real" thing we can point to as an example of actual racism, but what about how that went on to influence the generational wealth of black farmers? That's more complex and nuanced. Redlining was a "real" thing, but what about how that went on to impact black home-ownership? How did these things create the rural/urban divide over time? How might bank loans being rejected to black families generations ago impact how a current family lives? My great grandparents got a loan to start a bakery, and we all now live relatively comfortable middle-class lives. I wonder how the trajectory of our family might have been different if that wasn't the case. And what if that was similar for all families who even looked like us?

When you hear a right wing pundit call these things "irreversibly racist" or say "the division will always be there", it is spoken in a pejorative sense, as if to say its bad for us to think of our country this way. When sociologists discuss these things, they are discussed as neutral social realities of a system which was established in a certain way, to benefit some people more than others. The academic discipline is concerned with understanding these divisions so that we might alleviate them. In the course of my studies, I was never made to feel guilty for being white. No one ever asked me to "atone". I haven't done anything wrong. But I do see that I benefited in many subtle ways from a system I had no hand in creating. This idea that white people are inherently evil and that we should feel bad is a right-wing fiction (either amplified from some very small corner of the left, or invented outright), and it's helpful because it triggers our defensive side. It sets the tone of the conversation before it even starts. It's the system which is at fault, and it's deficiencies are easily fixable. But that's not a discussion right-wing politicians want to have. Even if they did care about the issue, fixing it would be expensive and they know it.

As for your point of military cohesion, understanding the complexities of our American history makes better soldiers. It makes more thoughtful, socially-engaged, civic-minded humans. Why does knowing about past racism, and how that past racism influences the current time, make soldiers divided? And this says nothing of the black soldiers who might be happy this is finally getting talked about. The critique is of the system, not of white people. But that said, when a person defends a deeply unfair system, they line up to take the heat in the same way.

I genuinely believe most americans have an innate sense of fairness. When politics are stripped away, many of us can point to a crap situation and say "that's unfair, and we should make it more fair". Critical Race Theory (and Sociology, its mother discipline) seek to understand the dynamics of human interaction, and hopefully use that knowledge to make better societies.

Critical race theory is simply the latest strawman argument created from thin air by right wing pundits to enrage their base viewer. That rage keeps the coffers of these corporations funded, keeps politicians bankrolled, and who then pass laws to keep the status quo and their corporate interests happy.”

Title	After reading CRT...
Author	hatsan69
Upvotes	210
Comments	118
Date	June 27, 2021 7:59 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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