Being automatically labeled as a misogynistic or even as a extremist right-wing for disagreeing the slightest with feminists or just pointing out about double standards

Thebaddad22 · 2025-03-18T17:01:43+00:00

I walk away from people like that. If someone cant genuinely appreciate that I am entitled to a different perspective I don’t want to engage with them. I find these people are just bullies and don’t truly want to foster an environment that allows for an open exchange of ideas

i1045 · 2025-03-18T17:58:03+00:00

It's an intimidation-tactic. If you disagree with them, they will call you all of the modern-day bad things. You are supposed to be so mortified by the accusation that you cease to express your heretical thoughts. The problem is, these words are so over-used that they have lost all practical meaning.

zibitee · 2025-03-18T18:46:59+00:00

The problem with liberal politics is that their support relies on people accepting and understanding their plight. By attacking people who don't automatically agree with them, they're pushing away support. Women's suffrage required that men agree with their ideology. If women attacked men like liberal sensationalism today, women's suffrage wouldn't have as much support. I hope the world can come to an understanding one day where they see that both sides need help and that the color of your skin or the gender you're born into are not considerations for whether or not you need help.

jjj2576 · 2025-03-18T17:18:23+00:00

I don’t think there’s a Magical Wand Wave of a solution here. You keep on truckin’, being a Good Man. Be the type of Man that young lads can look up to.

Anyone who’s going to label you as a misogynist irrationally, probably isn’t someone you want to play a game of Croquet with.

Pecking_Boi0330 · 2025-03-18T18:55:56+00:00

Its abysmal dogshit and gaslighting at its finest

Anything that lies outside feminism is considered “misogyny”,

They don’t even want you to have the freedom to frame your own perspective of freedom,

They want you to believe that you either believe in the feminist idea of freedom or you believe in women not having rights

Which is false, there is a middle ground, and you can find it, which is actually the true meaning of equality

chengannur · 2025-03-18T17:50:51+00:00

You are not seeing it clearly, It's way easier to mark someone as negative and attack him as a person rather than attacking the argument someone makes which is obvious for everyone to understand and as the solution won't be in favour to the other party, instead of attacking the argument that you make, they make you negative and attack you, because that's just easier

draftgraphula · 2025-03-18T20:05:29+00:00

Also, if feminists weren't sexist they would pick a different name.

It's much more valuable for society to actually spend all that grant money on gender-indifferent child neglect/abuse prevention!

hoolio9393 · 2025-03-18T20:26:54+00:00

I'd have to agree. I heard at my work how the ladies discuss taking half of a man's wealth. Guys theyre aware of what they want. A marriage is not equal. She has more rights

Ok-Consideration8724 · 2025-03-18T21:09:44+00:00

You know as a conservative, men’s rights transcends the political spectrum. Yet we’re all gonna be far right Nazis to these people. I was watching a ShoeOnHead video about this not too long ago.

The left is not doing a good job at capturing men the way the right is. The right is co-opting guys like Andrew Tate wwwaaaayyyyy too much in some cases. But Tate is filling a void left by fatherless homes, 3rd and 4th wave feminists who hate men (even their sons), and friendships that men had years ago but don’t have.

If the the feminist want real men and the left wants men to get on their platform, then they simply have to stop hating all men for the things 2% of population of men does.

Ready-Flamingo6494 · 2025-03-18T23:03:23+00:00

Anytime you write something that disagrees with the r/twoXchromesomes feminist rhetoric you get banned. You aren't allowed to have a difference of opinion no matter how benign.

Grow_peace_in_Bedlam · 2025-03-18T23:13:27+00:00

As a leftist, I especially hate this. On the contrary, my opposition to feminism is motivated by my leftism, since feminism pits the sexes against each other so that we leave the corrupt billionaires at the top in underserved peace.

Plus, since men are still expected to be the workhorses of humanity, to a large extent, workers' rights are men's rights.

Finally, I don't see how you can rightly be angry at the disparate treatment at every stage of the criminal justice system between white people and black people and then be indifferent to the even greater disparity between women and men in the same system.

Trev6ft5 · 2025-03-19T11:00:08+00:00

If it's in their own lefty echo chamber I just walk away, people there can't be reasoned with and they don't want to be. Normal spaces might be worth attacking them, usually by talking to them like I'm disciplining a child.

Cactus2711 · 2025-03-19T21:51:30+00:00

I have to be so careful with my views. I never directly point out double standards. Talking about feminism and misogyny with women is a losing game

IceCrystalSmoke · 2025-03-18T19:03:54+00:00

I’m feminist and disagree with the vast majority of posts on this sub, and even I’ve been temp banned from twoXchromosomes. lol

Rocketronic0 · 2025-03-18T16:55:07+00:00

We just need a few years of Trump and all will be well. The left has been too used to their ideological tyranny they need some beating before they learn their place.

Also the toxic feminists are not your friends. I met and gave chances to many but they are too harmed to make friends with. Neither they are worth arguing against because of their attitude. Leave them be, don’t talk to them, or listen or emphatise. Those who are against free speech does not deserve the privilege of having it.

ASexual-Buff-Baboon · 2025-03-18T23:55:04+00:00

Not talking to people is great.

draftgraphula · 2025-03-18T19:52:57+00:00

Take notes of their argument, prepare at home, bring the proofs, come back, label accusations as such, note emotions spilling out, rinse, go your own way.

brainzhurtin · 2025-03-18T21:48:05+00:00

"If you aren't mature enough to have discussions without being defensive, divisive, and personal insults, I wish you the best, but am ending this conversation".

"In my experience, personal insults are a clear sign that you are afraid to change your mind when presented with facts. I refuse to allow you to continue to lie and blame when I've done nothing to deserve that. Seek therapy"

"lol, OK, enjoy your cats"

Feel free to tailor these with as much or as little stronger verbiage as needed.

Black-Patrick · 2025-03-18T22:49:36+00:00

Bro I get labeled a misandrist for expressing pushback and playing devil’s advocate on this sub all the time. At least the discourse is tolerated here, but the goal shouldn’t be to do it back.

gmnotyet · 2025-03-19T04:25:46+00:00

I don't care what misandrists say.

Whatever men do is wrong according to these people so fuck them.

Vivaelpueblo · 2025-03-19T08:12:35+00:00

Lol - any kind of rational/logical argument is going to get shot down in flames. Frankly I keep my head well below the parapet and try to help my friends/family that are struggling as much as I can. Getting into public spats with irrational individuals isn't worth the energy/grief.

Forsaken_Hat_7010 · 2025-03-19T14:36:17+00:00

The worst thing is that they will pretend to have a defense of human rights, but if you make a discourse strictly based on equality before the law and presumption of innocence, they will still keep throwing these smears at you; it is baffling how delusional people can be without even suffering from cognitive dissonance.

Tiger4ever89 · 2025-03-20T07:51:47+00:00

i been calling out on a different group here on Reddit bcuz i don't want to discuss politics... ''dude you follow MensRights and that policing women's rights'' like bro are you spying on me now? and by that standard she or he admitted that if MensRights policing women's rights.. than that's exactly what feminists are doing.. policing men's rights

Demonspawn · 2025-03-18T18:34:51+00:00

There are two big groups in the world. One is motivated by emotions and wanting to fit in. The other is motivated by logic and reason.

It's not exclusive, but you will find that the first group leans heavily left and the other heavily right. Feminist arguments are mostly fueled by emotion, so if you disagree you "must be" on the right.

So that's where the accusation of being "on the right" comes from. As for the other accusation, it's an emotional argument that boils down to "nobody will like you if you disagree" and that emotional argument keeps those on the left in line.

SidewaysGiraffe · 2025-03-18T17:51:26+00:00

The doctrine of most mainstream sects of Christianity holds that humans are inherently sinful; that the actions of Adam and Eve corrupted us all (HOW, exactly, that's the supposed to make the slightest bit of epistemological sense is never explained, but that's another issue)- this is what's usually called Original Sin. But there's hope for redemption in accepting Jesus; God is willing to forgive you, regardless of the nature or extent of your sins. It's not just Adam and Eve and the Fruit; it's EVERYTHING- your slate is wiped clean, and while your repentance needs to be genuine, it's not a one-time thing, you can keep going back and seeking forgiveness as often as necessary.

Feminism is part of a group of ideologies which hold to another form of usually-demographic-based original sin, but which have no form of absolution; at best, you can repent your gender and be seen as "less dangerous/harmful". Sadly, this mentality seems to have spread throughout the political Left, at least in the West (maybe beyond that; I don't know enough to say), and now the people who thirty years ago were decrying sexism and racism for being sexist and racist are now decrying them for being bigoted in the wrong direction. And Heaven help you in fall into political heresy- or worse, apostasy.

The two easiest groups of people to manipulate are those who are angry and those who are afraid. Anger makes you want to lash out and stops you from thinking clearly; fear makes you want to hide away and stops you from thinking at all. Those two sentences explain 98% of politics. And the manipulation is extremely cynical, too; here in the US, we're currently having a big foofaraw over illegal immigration. The root of the problem is that our immigration laws SUCK- you spend tens of thousands of dollars and wait for a decade for what's essentially a roll of the dice. Reforming the stupid laws could solve the vast majority of the problem, as anyone can see, so naturally, our politicians have been going back and forth, deadlocked on the issue only because of the differences between the political philosophies, no?

Ha ha.

As a solution to the problem, it is totally IGNORED- the only serious attempt at immigration reform in my lifetime came from Barack Obama, who actually managed to get some laws passed; credit where it's due. But WHY is it ignored? Because it's more useful to the Party (whichever one) as a problem than as an issue they solved. "Those boneheads want to: throw open the doors of the country and allow in drug dealers and murderers/slam shut the door and not allow in innocent hardworking people like their ancestors once were!", as appropriate to your "side", is the rallying cry, and it's so useful as a club (particularly in these days, when it's so easily to ideologically isolate yourself) that no one who's willing to give it up will take office- because they lose the elections to people who aren't.

It's exactly the same with being The Evil. What are we supposed to do? Be evil- and object to being called evil simply because of our demographic traits, because that makes the poor, innocent useful idiots feel threatened, which reinforces their loyalty to their ideological masters.

g1455ofwater · 2025-03-19T07:48:27+00:00

What are we supposed to do if all of the options given to us automatically put us a The Evil?

That's an easy one to answer, quit valuing their opinion.

i1045 · 2025-03-18T17:58:41+00:00

It's an intimidation-tactic. If you disagree with them, they will call you all of the modern-day bad things. You are supposed to be so mortified by the accusation that you cease to express your heretical thoughts. The problem is, these words are so over-used that they have lost all practical meaning.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-03-19T01:25:25+00:00

Go MGTOW, that's what you're supposed to do.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-03-19T01:28:17+00:00

The Left wing is basically a cult now.

Title	Being automatically labeled as a misogynistic or even as a extremist right-wing for disagreeing the slightest with feminists or just pointing out about double standards
Author	JotaD21
Upvotes	355
Comments	74
Date	March 18, 2025 4:46 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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