Never gets old.

bigkyrososa · 2019-02-11T22:28:29+00:00

you always hear about women giving ultimatums to their bf/husband/fiance who are depressed, addicted, and/or are out of a job, etc (essentially, dudes who have something preventing them from achieving their full money making potential), but never the flip side.

and then they get praise for 'leaving a toxic/abusive relationship', yet in reality, they abandoned a dude when he was at his lowest.

v573v · 2019-02-11T18:55:12+00:00

My love for my wife is entirely conditional.

Forgotten_Past · 2019-02-11T23:05:16+00:00

In all fairness, children and dogs are capable of loving unconditionally.

HeForeverBleeds · 2019-02-11T21:04:33+00:00

That could probably be

women, girls, and dogs are loved unconditionally

and still be accurate

Even boy children get their genitals mutilated against their will at birth because "women think it looks better". Or are sexually abused by female teachers or other women who are then given Pussy Passes because "why did he complain anyway??" And too many people don't care specifically because they're boys and not girls

Male disposability is an issue for all men and boys in general, and it needs to be challenged as much as possible

AydinSadiqov · 2019-02-11T22:31:41+00:00

I know this post talking about a different topic, but. I just want to say, i prefer friendship more than Love (i mean that one , more than friendship) . Maybe because i didn't love someone (+ phobias, fears, trying to avoid NTR / Netorare stuff, low self esteem and etc.) . I love everyone as friend, but not more than that. And i like that BOND OF FRIENDS, BROS. I think breaking that BRO BOND more hard, than breaking LOVE BOND. Sorry for my English

And it's just my oponion. If you want me to drown in downvotes and etc. , i don't care. Do it. I'm just saying what i want to say. I'm not trying to be rude and i respect every oponion

And you can say, i'm virgin and i don't have 0 personal experience about love. But i think, relationship is not always a cute, awesome and etc. thing. It's have own problems, difficulties and so on. I'm even not talking about some depressing stuff it can have. Also i'm just appreciate my freedom and i'm just playing videogames, listening music, talking with friends and just having fun. Being "alone" have has own advantages

Theendisnearornot · 2019-02-11T23:08:45+00:00

I love (and respect) my husband unconditionally. I don’t like him unconditionally (and vice versus). We are going through a rough patch. It is sometimes really hard to be around each other and we are working through it. There are some days I just dislike him and I know for certain he feels the same way. The biggest (but not only) reason I’m fighting for us to stay alive as a couple is because I love him. Plain and simple... I don’t want anyone else even with everything we’ve been through together.

fortofawesome35 · 2019-02-11T22:49:33+00:00

I'm never giving my son a circumcision when he's born. If I ever have a son.

Ransal · 2019-02-11T22:37:53+00:00

And only partly. The moment they lose the ability to provide they are tossed aside.

Redditornumbertwenty · 2019-02-11T23:27:57+00:00

Yeah... Only pets seem to be close to the unconditional. I know plenty of people have conditions for loving their wife and children. I understand the message, but man is this inaccurate.

goodmod · 2019-02-11T22:35:32+00:00

Although this is a good post, the title does not say enough about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested. It also makes searching impossible.

If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable.

So please don't do it in future. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.

When making a title, it's best to assume the reader doesn't know what you're talking about - but don't go overboard with every detail. Then check if there are any words you can cut out without losing any important information.

NarwhalsAreSexy · 2019-02-11T21:56:46+00:00

Only pets are lived unconditionally.

2019-02-13T17:49:14+00:00

Okay maybe I'm not welcome here because I'm a woman but I can tell you for myself personally this is absolutely untrue.

If I'm to get into a relationship with a man, the love is absolutely conditional.

It's conditional to if I provide enough sex for him (a lot of the time I do feel like having sex and it isn't providing but I have pretty much every partner of mine in the past either imply or outright say if we don't have more sex he'll get it elsewhere or leave me for someone. So I feel forced to have sex and when I feel forced under the condition he won't love me otherwise then I consider that providing sex).

It's conditional to whether I'm pretty enough and if I'm not attractive enough, I'm just a fuck buddy to them.

I absolutely have never believed men will love me unconditionally just for me. To maintain a relationship I have to constantly be proving myself to them. Proving I'm good enough company, my humour is good enough, I'm intelligent enough to talk to but not so intelligent they feel threatened, I have to validate them constantly (even worse that I've had previous partners so I have to convince them that they are the best I've been with, I don't want to with anyone but them, they're the best at sex etc while they've had previous partners and that's just life. All I can do is work my hardest to be the best and if I'm not then I'm just not good enough and should be grateful they look past that or I just need to give more blow jobs to make up for it)

I know I'm one woman out of billions and even though I've had a few relationships with a variety of different kinds of guys that it's still a small amount. But even seeing other relationships, I've never seen the woman just loved and idealised unconditionally while the man has to prove something.

I hope I'm not causing offense, I am here and willing to listen to other sides. I'm here to be willing to listen to advice to how I can make future partners of mine feel more valued and loved. It just kinda hurt to see that I feel like I have to try so hard to prove myself to potential men and see things like this saying 'oh women don't even try' maybe it's just 10/10 women that don't need to try.

Chaddikt · 2019-02-12T02:53:43+00:00

So fucking true

mentalsquid · 2019-02-12T07:54:41+00:00

This physically hurts me

djc_tech · 2019-02-12T13:57:01+00:00

This is true. This is really true

Badgerz92 · 2019-02-12T14:28:38+00:00

This is the meaning of Warren Farrell's famous quote "Women are human beings, men are human doings"

JackFisherBooks · 2019-02-13T01:41:12+00:00

I know this was part of a comedy special, but I've yet to find anyone who has effectively refuted this point. I haven't even found anyone willing to try.

DenseMahatma · 2019-02-11T21:41:01+00:00

completely untrue, what kind of MGTOW bullshit is this? Maybe you're unfortunate in your relationships, but my parents and brother, love me unconditionally. I know several of my friends who's wives/girlfriends love them unconditionally.

TheSeele · 2019-02-11T23:03:57+00:00

I don't think that's totally true.

If a person is only able to love you for the status you have then you have a relationship based only on interest not love.

I believe that there are situations driven by our biology that allow us to feel more attracted to certain types of people. For men: strong, dominant, masculine and holding positions of power to be able to provide the family.

For women: young, beautiful, sweet, delicate, sensual, feminine and especially maternal.

MyOtherTagsGood · 2019-02-11T19:57:17+00:00

Keep the meme reposts off of here. It's a bad look and gives trolls ammo to discredit us.

Mathematicsduck · 2019-02-12T00:30:08+00:00

Ksi preach 🙏🙏🙏

batfish55 · 2019-02-12T08:32:52+00:00

In their defense, dogs are awesome.

Lethn · 2019-02-12T08:46:17+00:00

The secret is to enjoy providing something

50MillionYearTrip · 2019-02-12T01:50:48+00:00

/r/niceguys material here

anotherw1n · 2019-02-11T21:06:08+00:00

yeah, and it sucks, but that's the fucking job. Fucking deal with it.

craigske · 2019-02-12T01:11:43+00:00

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thisimpetus · 2019-02-12T05:40:00+00:00

Now if only we regularly provided love and affection, and weren’t the greatest perpetrators of violence, rape, coercion and collusion in human history, and if we made it even feasible for women and people of color to be providers, and if learned not to be permanently navel-gazing, self-pitying rageaholics who’ve compromised the safety and security of the planet in favor of short-term gains in the inherently violent economic mode we’ve created... this might be a coherent complaint.

I’m a cis-hetero white north american male in his 30’s so my opinions are welcome here too, right?

Title	Never gets old.
Author	SuryanshuBhandari
Upvotes	5259
Comments	172
Date	February 11, 2019 6:08 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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