Toxic femininity gets reduced to acceptable things... That loud violent woman that abuses you in public should keep right on being herself...

Minnesotan-Gaming · 2020-03-07T17:37:58+00:00

https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-feminism-holds-women-back-from-high-achievement/

Criticism stings for all of us, but women have been socialized to not rock the boat, to be, above all else, likable.

Well, no. Women have been socialized to believe that, regardless of what they do or how they behave, they ARE likable. Women grow up receiving much less negative and much more positive feedback than men. Women grow up with the idea that their worth is inextricably tied to their sex.

The result is that any criticism is (a) a shock, (b) deeply personal, and (c) seen as an attack on their womanhood.

curtwagner1984 · 2020-03-07T18:28:11+00:00

Unless you're a woman that says something against feminism. Then you shouldn't ask hard questions, tell the truth, or keep being assertive. Actually, if you're a woman and you say something against feminism, it's OK to send you death threats and call you all the names in the book.

BornFreeWE · 2020-03-07T17:41:42+00:00

In short:

A woman can be anything.

A man can be nothing.

SsoulBlade · 2020-03-07T17:57:05+00:00

So, if we apply the exact same logic to men...

Sexist: Keep them compliments coming. Mansplaining: Keep giving women advice. Etc.

So much Facepalm.

trash62 · 2020-03-07T17:25:48+00:00

I wonder how they would feel about the women who actually do tell the truth.

Egalitarianwhistle · 2020-03-07T17:39:08+00:00

Men who tell the truth are labeled "rape apologists."

SirKolbath · 2020-03-07T17:26:00+00:00

I prefer to call it "malignant" feminism. Always reinforce the idea that it is cancerous.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2020-03-07T19:23:02+00:00

This is the kind of constant patting on the back "enabling mechanism" that creates heartless psychopaths.

Motherfly · 2020-03-07T22:02:53+00:00

I'm extremely tired of women taking pride in their ''strong personality'' while in fact they're just shitty human beings

TracyMorganFreeman · 2020-03-07T23:44:12+00:00

Translation: Don't learn the difference between these things and keep blaming others.

not_kieron · 2020-03-08T00:10:48+00:00

Bullying your coworkers and causing several serious problems?: keep sticking it to the man

YingDomo04 · 2020-03-07T23:59:30+00:00

Can men be themselves and speak against women or do women have the PRIVILEGE of having this

MingSushi · 2020-03-08T03:18:38+00:00

I never understand why feminists teach women and girls to not smile, be unpleasant and to not put effort into their appearance. They’re literally teaching generations of females to have a shitty attitude about life, treat people like crap and to constantly have a victim mentality. Unhealthy feminine energy has taken over and is warping young girls and women minds.

Being bossy is not good. If someone calls you bossy, 9/10 times you’re being bossy. People don’t like it when men are bossy and demanding, I really don’t know where feminists get the idea that a man can just be an asshole and everyone’s fine with it because he has a penis.

ScratchyMeat · 2020-03-08T05:20:41+00:00

Being "bossy" is not leading.

mutedloquacity · 2020-03-08T05:50:17+00:00

Can confirm. The woman I saw share this on Facebook is aggressive and abusive.

Soviet_Rambo · 2020-03-07T21:54:11+00:00

This honest woman explains why "be yourself" was terrible advice for her in her 20's, because she was a loudmouth narcissist.

https://theoutline.com/post/7142/be-yourself-is-terrible-advice

slixx_06 · 2020-03-07T22:31:57+00:00

Toxic Assertiveness

Toxic Leadership

Mansplaining

Manspreading

Creepy

TheStumblingWolf · 2020-03-07T22:56:32+00:00

So much wrong with that. Being a boss and being a leader are very different things.

weedislif · 2020-03-08T00:56:48+00:00

I’m a woman and this is dumb

preppyprepface · 2020-03-08T02:02:27+00:00

Not a single one of those attributes is attractive. Not one.

gousaarmy · 2020-03-08T02:18:35+00:00

Being bossy makes a fucking horrible leader. Being bossy makes you a fucking bitch. Wanna be a good leader? Learn proper fucking leadership.

Yipsta · 2020-03-08T08:16:42+00:00

I love how the sum of all them traits makes a woman beautiful. Not powerful or smart or intelligent. Just beautiful

chambertlo · 2020-03-08T09:07:32+00:00

“Be yourself” is the worst advice you can give to a woman, since so many of them are just raging cunts all the fucking time.

QS26 · 2020-03-07T23:51:36+00:00

It’s like MK ultra all over again.

Sbeast · 2020-03-08T00:44:07+00:00

The whole concept is so stupid. It overgeneralises everything, and comes across as ironically sexist. It implies all woman labelled as X are always Y, which is not true.

There is no subtlety or nuance, and appears to be the moral reasoning of a 5 year old.

Disorganized_Closet · 2020-03-08T01:07:56+00:00

My subreddit, r/Toxic_Femininity

Phuckers6 · 2020-03-08T01:24:10+00:00

Is this the woman's guide to unhappiness? If a man ignores other people's feelings then he is an asshole, if a woman does it then she's beautiful, LOL. I'm sure this advice works out great in practice :)

thereslcjg2000 · 2020-03-08T01:28:26+00:00

As a man I’ve literally been called everything on the list. And guess what? I responded each time by reflecting on myself and taking the effort to self-improve. It’s crazy how feminism is so strongly opposed to basic human decency (from women, that is. Men have to be white knights in shining armor ready to save the poor helpless yet empowered women from manspreading and air conditioning.)

Deja_Siku · 2020-03-08T01:40:51+00:00

To the men who are labeled:

Sexist: keep standing firm in your convictions of what it is to be a man!

Douchebag Know-It-All’s: keep up that confidence! That Machiavellian shit is the only way to get ahead in this dog-eat-dog world.

Abusive: keep on keeping your bitch in check until she learns when it’s appropriate to throw tantrums in public

Perverts: keep the compliments up; after all, she is a beautiful woman who needs to hear it all time because she’s insecure, but pretends to not like it

Mansplainers: keep showing women the right way to do things since they can’t ever figure out how to do things correctly on their own

Manspreaders: keep standing (or in this case, sitting) with pride, dignity, and strength, regardless of how whiny women somehow find a way to victimize themselves over this retarded bullshit

Men, please let everyone degrade you for being a man. It’s not okay to embrace masculinity without feeling like a fucking criminal or that something is wrong with not being a feminine pushover about these stupid issues. After all, there is absolutely no difference between being a man and a woman. There are however many the fuck genders you can choose to be and all of them are fine unless it’s “male/man/guy/dude/bro/dicked-one(from birth, not sown over your pussy)” ...don’t you dare choose to be a man, especially if you’re white, and especially if you’ve committed such a crime as loving the Lamb of God who was given to us by God as a propitiation for sin, who was crucified for being innocent and never sinning, healing the sick, befriending and helping the poor, caring for children, and taking care of widows. White Christian Men™️ are the reason our world is a mess.

What are YOUR true true translations for men? Leave them in the comments!

-Noxxy- · 2020-03-08T01:59:57+00:00

Step it back now y'all, reverse reverse

XenoX101 · 2020-03-08T03:37:48+00:00

These same people will say traditional masculinity is "outdated" and "harmful", and often equate it with toxic masculinity. So a woman should "be herself" while men need to "do better", stop "mansplaining" and supporting the "patriarchy". The lack of any feminine equivalents for all the new negative terms for men is quite telling. I guess this is what equality means when it is defined by feminists.

thediscussion · 2020-03-08T03:48:09+00:00

I posted about this. If you control the conversation then you control the narrative. A woman is allowed to harass you and be absolutely detestable and never held accountable.

incvnspicuous · 2020-03-08T05:01:42+00:00

ok i know this argument is used a lot but STILL

imagine if the roles were reversed in this situation

a man being aggressive would never, ever be labeled as being assertive whereas i guess it's just okay for women to be aggresive cause you know "female empowerment" and such

HisDrunk · 2020-03-08T07:10:26+00:00

Yeah but who the fuck is wasting their time with these kind of women, seriously? And if a guy does it then his the idiot. I mean why the fuck would you?

shelleon · 2020-03-08T07:41:23+00:00

A lot of these descriptions do not match the word they’re connecting them to

a1b2d2a2 · 2020-03-07T21:36:43+00:00

I was spooked and though I had fallen into FDS when reading this, jeez don’t spook me like the boys

serebehr · 2020-03-08T00:09:09+00:00

I don't think this was supposed to sound as you think. Some people call me things like bossy or aggressive just for not being more meek or passive because that's what some expect from women.

candidly1 · 2020-03-08T02:18:44+00:00

I am REALLY thankful I found a beautiful, sane woman to spend my life with before the world lost its collective fucking mind. I seriously feel bad for you young guys out there nowadays.

Blunt_Sage · 2020-03-08T02:26:47+00:00

"Nice for what?" is the new motto. Society now encourages women to be unapologetically rude and obnoxious. Meanwhile, demanding men be quieter and more polite (subservient).

neverXmiss · 2020-03-08T08:02:50+00:00

Any person who follows this advice is in for a rude awakening.

meeselbon573 · 2020-03-08T13:08:24+00:00

Women just can’t do anything wrong.

ConnorGracie · 2020-03-09T18:51:16+00:00

To all the men raping, keep being passionate. To all the men beating, keep pursuing what you want. To all the men narcissists, keep loving yourself.

PandaLover135 · 2020-03-10T03:16:12+00:00

“Too much: keep taking up space” yet men are hated and criticized for “mansplaning”?

LotBuilder · 2020-03-07T23:30:39+00:00

Keep acting like they and you might as well lose up on box wine and cats

stianftw · 2020-03-08T02:08:48+00:00

No, these are actually problem women face. Is your being abused by a women, she is a problem. However, stating that this trades are only used against men are just false and is not contributing to any cause.

xNOM · 2020-03-07T17:52:46+00:00

I wish people would stop calling women acting like men "toxic femininity." It's not. Are you mostly high school kids?

The toxic femininity that people should be concerned about, is the damage that too much femininity does.

safe spaces
dumbing down the emphasis on competence
insisting on equal outcomes
being nice is the most important thing
feelings over facts

Title	Toxic femininity gets reduced to acceptable things... That loud violent woman that abuses you in public should keep right on being herself...
Author	RacelessSexlessName
Upvotes	1425
Comments	156
Date	March 7, 2020 5:23 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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