About the topics discussed on this sub

PronKing10 · 2022-09-14T11:19:51+00:00

Most dudes on here obsess about sex because they haven't had it and think that's what they're missing and their life will drastically change when they finally have it. But you're right, love is what they're missing and should be looking for. Having someone listen to you, understand the weird/unique person that you are, thinking about you and taking care of you is so much more important and rewarding than just sex. And obviously when you mix the two is the best thing you can find. But they just think sex sex sex as if that's all a relationship or a goal is.

DisasterPeace7 · 2022-09-14T11:32:12+00:00

1.Confirmation bias from my side, or just being on the sub on unlucky times.

Yed

Peoples ideals are radically different than mine and they just want to get laid. My goal is a meaningful relationship

Yes

The age demographic here is younger than I thought and people are not yet in relationships and still figuring out life.

Yes

People who can't get a date or are generally unhappy with dating post more often.

Yes

tinasnow-poty · 2022-09-14T12:01:35+00:00

It’s 4. They just wanna get laid and are struggling in doing so

risdeveau · 2022-09-14T14:29:43+00:00

The people here are the unhappy and bored ones; happy busy people are not here

onirroc · 2022-09-14T11:09:32+00:00

All 4 of your points have some truth. This demographic is definitely young, often high school, and the main concern seems to be sex.

I'm with you though. I've never used online dating, or cold approaching, every relationship and casual sex I've had has come about organically while spending time with a woman.

MarBitt · 2022-09-14T11:10:34+00:00

Because this doesn't work:

A: I'm happily married, have great kids, and life is generally good.
B: I can't find a woman, dating is useless, I'm terribly horny and sometimes I want to kill myself.
A: Oh, that's unfortunate. Let's talk together about how happy I am.
B: Ok. I feel better knowing you are happy.

chancetolive · 2022-09-14T11:56:51+00:00

Wrong. Most guys have to date around and learn from experience first. That involves the dating process and expression of genuine desire. Only after you've dated around, learnt about what you want for sure, learnt the nature of how to flirt and behave with women can you pick one out of your options and proceed to a relationship and so on.

The only caveat is if they're part of a strong culture and religion where their parents will help decide. For example Muslims.. it's fine that they start learning after marriage.

Depends what you mean by young as well, I'm 30 and a virgin in every sense, I know at least 4 other men irl around my age who are also definitely virgins, and I don't know that many people.

Virginity is not simply about sex, it's also being desired and respected.

TermAggravating8043 · 2022-09-14T11:08:27+00:00

The people on this sub are mainly young virgin males that watch too much porn. Too hyper focused on sex and how to get quick and easy sex, women are evil since they withhold it, they are not people, they are merely the keepers of sex.

Don’t take anything from this sub except entertainment,

InfoVariety-8842 · 2022-09-14T11:31:36+00:00

I disagree with the general tone that is forming in this thread. Sex is awesome. It is fun, you form connections through it, and yes it is an ego boost. It should be consensual and mutually beneficial. It is worth trying to have sex if you aren’t, and expending some effort on that (assuming it’s something you want). I dont think its “what’s missing in your life” or the key to happiness, but I also think it will improve peoples lives, their mood, and the connections they make. Telling people it’s unimportant is bogus placation.

Steakman1 · 2022-09-14T15:09:11+00:00

So I think a good amount of the most vocal people here would qualify as incels, blackpillers, or maybe just red pill people. A lot of these people seem to operate with the mentality that most western women aren’t worthy of relationships. So relationships might be viewed as a lost cause to most of these people. Red pillers aren’t trying to change women and are just trying to adapt to their perceived reality. And incels/blackpillers can’t really be bothered to look at relationships when they can’t even have sex. If they think women are too entitled and superficial when it comes to having sex, then relationships with women aren’t as attractive of an idea to them. And the women that they believe are worthy of relationships are unicorns.

Sex is something viewed as some life changing thing by those that have never really had it. Which I can kind of understand since at the very least it’s huge weight of societal pressure off your shoulders once you finally have it.

IndependenceSoft3250 · 2022-09-14T15:25:43+00:00

I've been reading and actively discussing on this sub for a while now and I really wonder: Why is it that the main things discussed here seem to be dating and sex, and not long term considerations of interactions between men and women?

Because redpill turned from a men's issues hashtag to a subredditt for shitty dating advice many, many years ago.

geyges1 · 2022-09-14T12:26:49+00:00

People (especially many guys) use sex and love interchangeably.

I do as well. Because I don't really conceive of having sex with someone I wouldn't want some type of Longer term relationship with. And women essentially talk about this the same way, except there's a subset of virgins/angry women that strictly separate sex from relationship and believe that men just literally want sex from them.

Nothing also stops you from posting about these "long term interactions". That's what every woman here does. They just go on on about their boyfriend(s).

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throwaway316stunner · 2022-09-14T13:13:27+00:00

Long-term considerations aren’t talked about as much, because many of us men are struggling just to get through dating/losing virginities to even talk about it.

Now if more of us men here can actually find women who genuinely want to date us and we can actually enter (seemingly) meaningful relationships, then sure, let’s talk about long-term considerations.

roseonyxa · 2022-09-14T16:33:22+00:00

Do I try to post this but the moderators keep taking this down where I try to examine things systemically I look at hook up culture as a small business trend and capitalizing on the failing business of romance ( which isn't romance culture's fault but the poor conditions it's forced to exist in). Hook up culture is selling people the ideology of having sex without relationships in youth because they are too immature and dating serious when they mature up. It makes claims of why people should buy this product in this case it says stuff like people need variety before settling and the only way is to fuck as many people as you can or that people are too immature but human nature, or it's a sign of freedom for women( they did same thing with cigerates and alcohol). Hook up culture isn't just casual sex but it's a specific model of how relationship form. Sure I don't have problem with consumers consuming their product especially if the product doesn't cause harm in of itself. But I am curious about the product it's trying to sell and the conditions which allowed the sales of this product to increase. I am not going to argue against the claims in depth made by hook up culture and it's defenders but I want to explore the market conditions which sort of made business bad for romance which led to the rise of the popularity of hook up culture. So here is my folk theory about hook up culture I am not saying it's necessarily true but it's seems like it could be The problem I see is that hook up culture is a monopoly that became dominant in modern society. The social and economic conditions that gave rise to it's hegemony are factors such as commodification of sex through porn, prostitution, and sexual advertising, commodification of romance being dependent on stable on careers, busier working hours, alienation and isolation through competition and social oppression such as racism, embodiment of consumerist mindset of green is always greener, toxic relationships due to toxic masculinity, pesemismistic mindset, and constant relocation for job opportunities. I have done researching and found out yes hook up culture doesn't have any negative or strong negative affects on individual but it doesn't have a lasting positive impact and won't resolve deep psychological problems nor will it give you the same benefits as healthy relationship https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5731847/ https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2017/02/relationships.php

So my solution is to change the current economic and social conditions: to decomodify sex and romance, decrease working hours, create more social environment and encourage cooperation amongst each other, challenge the consumer mindset like how Dr. K does in his latest video on love in which he talks about focus on building happiness not looking for it in others he explains this better than me, teach healthy relationship skills and emotional regulation skills, encourage emotional expression in men, challenge pesemismistic mindset and foster a proactive optimistic mindset, create stable jobs for people. So I don't think slut shaming and double standard are the only thing will reduce casuals sex instead I think these new conditions will be more effective because people are willing to forgo casual sex for romance. In these conditions romance will become more wide spread and frequent thus outcompeting hook up culture and it's ideology that it tries to sell people. I get this is idealistic but but just for thought experiment I think romantics will win in this scenerio.

One last thing you noticed how people make fun of the past in this case the puritian culture. Anyone who critiques hook up culture in a meaningful way is called a puritian and they point out how bad things were. Don't get me wrong things were bad back then abortion was criminalized and women were slut shamed. But also have you noticed that companies mock the past. Like how apples mocked ibm and black berry to make their products look superior and more desirable. Just something to think about. Stay curious

I apologize if I made people who participate in hook up culture uncomfortable or if I came off as slut shaming. My intention is not to shame people who participate in this culture but rather ask all of us to actually examine this phenomena in a deeper way. This is all just my theory a game theory.

2022-09-14T23:51:53+00:00

The purpose of a relationship between a man and a woman is sex.

trail22 · 2022-09-15T01:19:02+00:00

If you cant get a date and have sex, you probably wont be able to fall in love.

Title	About the topics discussed on this sub
Author	rubberbandshooter13
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Date	September 14, 2022 10:51 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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