Are cels actually involuntary?

platinirisms · 2023-06-19T16:20:38+00:00

Depends on the definition of incel, I believe most Incels could probably sleep with a 300lbs woman. Does that no longer make them Incels in your eyes?

In terms of the dudes who choose to be fat, we called them fatcels, and fatcels = vocels, they were not Incels.

Anyway, incel content isn’t allowed here so your post will probably be removed very soon.

Ionicomica · 2023-06-19T16:31:39+00:00

Good question. I think no.

There are incels (I think most) that "can't" get laid because they don't want to put in the required effort to attract women and have sex. That is voluntary, and I think if they had the drive to improve themselves, then most incels would stop being incels.

whyamiherewhatawaste · 2023-06-19T16:59:11+00:00

I mean I have met men that i truly doubt any one would ever be interested in. Think obese, mentally impaired, on a wheelchair and extremely poor on disability. Dating him is essentially becoming his caretaker.

The autistic ones are also real in the sense they give off a vibe that makes women really uncomfortable. Reflect on a time you met a man and he acted desperate and was unattractive and said weird things. You can't really fix that whole combo. If you have one issue like social skills but good looking maybe? If you are a fun person to be around but fat you can lose weight ? But having the whole set of ugly, fat, broke and autistic is realistically not fixable.

NefariousNaz · 2023-06-19T17:14:04+00:00

You're assuming every cel is fat and don't exercise.

Their is actually a term for that, it's vol-cel - voluntary celibate. And they're not considered the other cel type.

TermAggravating8043 · 2023-06-19T17:23:32+00:00

No, their argument is woman can’t be involuntary because they can go on tinder and loads of guys will still fuck her because guys will fuck anything. They can go buy a prostitute,

This is when they argue that they don’t want to pay for it, the want to feel loved, desired etc and when you point out that’s what the woman wants too and not just an human flesh light they usual call you a hoe/slut/femcel etc

cassowaryy · 2023-06-19T17:28:39+00:00

I’ve met some incels before. One of them was actually my friend before his inability to get laid led him down a very dark path of buying into black pill ideology and other toxic beliefs that made him a terrible friend and person to be around. He was really short but worked out, had light autism and was socially awkward. Every time he tried talking to women he would be super intense to the point of weirding women out. Also he would lower his standards a little bit but not to the point of getting with a fat woman who he was unattracted to. Eventually he became an extremist and started worshiping financial success, and would shit on me about any of my achievements and goals because it didn’t involve me getting constantly laid. He even called me a failure despite doing much better than him in our respective fields. Needless to say I cut him off.

But they definitely exist

Chikoswe2022 · 2023-06-19T16:26:19+00:00

If you don't exercise then you're not an cel. You're choosing to be fat and unattractive.

Just so you know, exercise is a poor method to lose weight. Also, not everything incels complain about is under their control e.g. height, facial looks. While other things are a lot harder to control e.g. finances.

Windmill_flowers · 2023-06-19T16:51:12+00:00

You're choosing to be fat and unattractive.

Hey, all bodies are beautiful!

duenebula499 · 2023-06-19T16:08:09+00:00

Yes it’s a choice. The worst a guy can be, at his absolutely peak and barring any lifelong handicaps or disabilities, is still pretty darn far above average. Anyone can be jacked, get a degree and make money, and learn social skills. You’re already way above average even if you’re short and awkward. And before someone says oh but I was born with autism!!|! So was I, diagnosed with Asperger’s as a kid and it really doesn’t matter than much if it’s not crippling. You can still be socially acceptable.

Rude_Macaron2021 · 2023-06-19T16:01:38+00:00

No amount of exercise can make you taller.

No number of social skills can erase your autism.

If men get better, women just put pussy the price tag higher.

So yes, *cels can buy a prostitute or even get a fake wife in a 3rd world country, but that is not what they want. They want to be loved.

Women live in tutorial mode for dating and at worse they just share the guy or wait for their time, so they cannot relate.

My only revenge fantasy is the fact most of those women who choose to be moms will have boys that will likely be incels.

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Crippledhawkreturns · 2023-06-19T17:08:21+00:00

I’m disabled and weight 120 lbs….

Agi7890 · 2023-06-19T17:22:02+00:00

I don’t know, Kierkegaard

BLKSKNHED · 2023-06-19T16:33:41+00:00

No because any man could easily r*** a woman and there's a 93% chance you won't get convicted. Maybe incels are slightly just slightly less henious than to be believed.

obviousredflag · 2023-06-19T16:51:35+00:00

You are arguing besides the point.

Incel is the term to distinguish between people who have no sex because they don't want to (celibates), and those that want but don't have it. It has nothing to do with the capability to choose a path that leads to sex.

Specialist-Action-33 · 2023-06-19T16:15:38+00:00

Well, if you can't get laid then yes. That said, if you label yourself as one then it's safe to say that you are. I'm if people who do label themselves as one have an expectation of sympathy to be given for them. A lot of times people label themselves as such when they are not sleeping with the ones they want to sleep with, both men and women.

Title	Are cels actually involuntary?
Author	Distinct-Yogurt9276
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Date	June 19, 2023 3:57 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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