Benevolent Sexism

thenoorys · 2017-09-21T20:17:56+00:00

Or maybe just face reality. Women are softer and that's actually beautiful and worthy of embrace

notworthmuch20xx · 2017-09-21T20:20:18+00:00

What is there that "needs" to be done?

Cho_Assmilk · 2017-09-21T20:30:31+00:00

The traditional feminine role is no longer attainable

What are you talking about? Men crave for women who embrace this. I believe next to self improvement, this is the main goal of MRP. To guide your wife into following your leadership.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2017-09-21T20:19:21+00:00

No attempts at changing human nature with some "policy" or ideology will ever work, unless we exterminate 90% of people and use genetic modification or selective breeding on the other 10%

decoy88 · 2017-09-21T20:47:41+00:00

Personally I hate this. You are a child or you are an adult. I don't think anyone should get more leeway because womens feelings, its bullshit. Women have and should have agency. and be treated accordingly.

The way humans tend to treat women more kindly and well-meaning

This allows for certain fucked up things in society

women child molesters heavily underreported
sexist policies like with car insurance
female on male assault (or female on female) not being taken seriously

And a whole host of others

Scurvemuch · 2017-09-21T20:48:49+00:00

In one sense it does not get them ready for more masculine aspects of roles as co adults.

In other ways it sure is nice to fall back on.

Either way I LIKE being benevolently sexist to the right girls.

yolo_tomassi · 2017-09-21T21:09:46+00:00

The problem with refraining from benevolent sexism is the fact that women see that action as woman-hating.

Man that's exactly the sort of paradox I was trying to surface with the other post.

ClarityofDisaster · 2017-09-21T21:23:03+00:00

Does benevolent sexism do a disservice to women?

Absolutely.

The problem with refraining from benevolent sexism is the fact that women see that action as woman-hating.

This is true for many, but thankfully not all.

I think there is a balance we as a society have to attempt with foregoing benevolent sexism in an attempt to give room for personal growth, while not treating women like men.

I see no reason to try to find the proper kind of kid gloves to use. Just treat everyone the same as much as possible.

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bonersNlaughs · 2017-09-21T22:44:57+00:00

A question like this should be split into two posts, not all of us have an SJW2000XY(XX) simulator. I can't even speak for men even though, I, like to feeel like I am.

Women are more likely to be, kinder and agreeable. It's a good meme because it's true to me, maybe not to you and that's why you think women are naive of the harshness of 'modern life'.

I'm nonplussed at the way you talk about the world and a few I thinks and we'es. Death, destruction and chaos is advertised like McDonalds, I can't believe women haven't heard of it. Its the harshest thing I've experienced, but very tasty and addictive, it has negative effects though, for example, I post stuff on retarded forums and make what I regard as, for lack of a better word, degenerate actions.

What is society to you? I find it tricky to apply an definition to not western redditors world view and more nuanced. The traditional feminine role died at the same time as the masculine equivalent. Willy White has 10 heats, foods, shelters and 2 W Whiters with no heats and, W White gives 10 heats, foods, shelters to Mo'ers, how many, W Whiters with no heats, foods and shelters are left. I want the DLC pack as much as Russel Brand believe me.

If your praise for the thread you were inspired by, is the same for your own work, I'll pass on it. I'm not trying to sound superior or anything, my posts have been low grade. I'll always hold the thought that nothing matters, from your word to mine, your good food to bad food and shitposts (there'll be at least 2 good posts then ;)), there are balances everywhere, some might feel and impact negatively or positively, is this a balance? I guess we need unbalance for balance. No way can taking more notice in suffering in the world effect my being positively, unless I'm on the liberal bisto express or gain good feelings such as pleasure.

Another thing added to the bucket list before I feel confident enough playing IRL conquer & demand - analyse and study balance from an ethical & metaphysical angle.

DashneDK2 · 2017-09-22T00:29:06+00:00

Yes. It's similar to the racism of diminished expectations. That's the problem with all the helicopter-parented-trigger warning-safe space-quota dumbos. They aren't allowed the rough and tumble of the real world, which is what sharpens the wit and character of men.

But then I certainly practise benevolent sexism myself. I just don't see why it should be a goal for our society that women should be as hard and callous as men.

Cunari · 2017-09-22T01:05:21+00:00

It's not benevolent sexism that preferential treatment is given to women.

Benevolent sexism is coddling women because we view them as weak.

Rather women get preferential treatment because they are seen as more valuable and men are seen as disposable.

TheBookOfSeil · 2017-09-22T03:50:14+00:00

I think this does a general disservice to women. It seems to make them kinder, more compassionate, more agreeable and therefore much more naive of the harshness and suffering that is modern life.

You mean from a perceived "societal expectations" standpoint? I think that's their choice on whether or not they perceive it that way. Nobody is forcing women to be "kinder or more compassionate," though it is appreciated in our selfish and seemingly uncaring world. Someone's gotta care. Otherwise, nobody would. In the words of Ghandi, "Be the change you wish to see in the world." So, I don't think it's inherently "bad." I could certainly say that one's naivety stems from their lack of experience, or lack of desire to experience the world. Living in a nice, comfortable little bubble is certainly not going to help someone overcome their naivety, but it's more or less their choice.

I think there is a balance we as a society have to attempt with foregoing benevolent sexism in an attempt to give room for personal growth, while not treating women like men.

That's up to the individual, not society. Saying that society should make things easier for individuals isn't exactly the right frame of mind to have, in my opinion. There's no learning through the hardships of your experience if everything that you need is handed to you by everyone else.

The traditional feminine role is no longer attainable for the vast majority of women and I think they could use a little more tough love to prepare them for a lifetime of work.

I mean, sure, a little tough love is good every now and then, but is that what women really want? Are they willing to accept that? Would that include putting up with "workplace sexism," or talking to the appropriate chain of command until the problem is resolved, rather than looking for a new job elsewhere?

Treating women worse than they are treated now can really only come off that way and treating women like men would likely make them even more upset.

I'd say it depends on the person, but if they're young and inexperienced, they should be built up a little first, and then given the opportunity to build themselves up. If they're experienced, they should be treated like everyone else, but still encouraged to continually "aim higher."

Is there a balance that needs to be struck?

Possibly. I'd say that people would do much better if they took more responsibility for themselves and their own lives. I've noticed that dodging responsibility is fairly common, because nobody wants to admit fault or wrong-doing, and this can be seen in everyday occurrences, like car "accidents." It's not really much of an "accident" if you were texting while driving. It's not really much of an accident if you just weren't paying attention at all.

As a whole, if we want things to get better, we need to assume responsibility for ourselves as individuals. If we can do that, I think that many problems that we have throughout the world would disappear, but maybe this thought that everyone could be responsible is more of an ideal than it is a realistic goal.

EliteSpartanRanger · 2017-09-21T21:25:24+00:00

benevolent sexism is shitty to both genders because it encourages certain sets of behaviors from both genders and discourages deviation from the norm

I tailor the way I treat people to the individual. If an individual likes to be treated one way, I treat them the way they want to be treated, not the way that their gender dictates they must be treated.

circlhat · 2017-09-21T21:46:04+00:00

Here is how it goes

Women is force to do something: Sexism Men is force to do something: Benevolent

No sexism is benevolent, it is a term created by feminist to explain how in gods name men were privileged when they died by being force to do things that often the lowest of the classes do.

Title	Benevolent Sexism
Author	Mr_Smoogs
Upvotes	7
Comments	115
Date	September 21, 2017 8:09 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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