Common ground between BP and RP?

Trump4GodEmperor · 2016-09-20T13:18:30+00:00

Common ground:

Attractive people attract people.

Confidence is sexy.

Flirting is how you meet women.

Thats about it.

shoup88 · 2016-09-20T14:01:41+00:00

Common ground:

Self Improvement is good

Verbal affirmative consent would be impossible to fully enforce (and pretty silly as a legal concept)

Physical attraction is a given (the only difference is at what age BP vs RP people learned this)

anitapk · 2016-09-20T11:20:35+00:00

That both people who spend too much time on reddit. Me included.

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-09-20T11:40:06+00:00

Well we all seem to have a healthy hatred of incels.

truthuncensored · 2016-09-20T14:14:18+00:00

That AF/BB is a thing.

I believe BP calls it gaining "experience" or "maturity" when a woman moves away from pure AF to BB. The move typically coincides with a realization that their attractiveness is fading.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2016-09-20T12:23:37+00:00

Blue pill seems to be in a bit of a struggle between normal people who want to laugh at the red pill (and who also think feminists are nuts) and SJWs who see this as another front of some greater holy war against the manosphere.

So we'll see.

lollygagyo · 2016-09-20T12:29:45+00:00

I think anyone with a brain will be able to acknowledge that certain strands of feminism are problematic (esp rad fem). I personally find these strands -- and figures like Lena Dunham -- problematic enough that I don't identify as a feminist (it helps that I was super alienated from campus feminism, I think and that I'm p. intersectional and most feminists find this hard to cope with for whatever reason).

That said, I am absolutely not on the same page that RPers are about feminism. This whole, ''it's ruining men and it's ruining the world and I am a white male and I am the most maligned!" bullshit and this whole, "feeeemalllle privilege'' thing is really fucked up, short-sighted and...just plain wrong.

So, yes, feminism -- it's got it's problems. I don't agree with RP (most of 'em anyway) on what they are at all.

BiggerDthanYou · 2016-09-20T11:22:09+00:00

The common ground is what we call common sense.

Somehow TRPs think that self improvement, taking care of your appearance and mental health, not being a doormat, being confident and outgoing are groundbreaking revelations while we just sit there wondering if they just never left their house at all and if their parents prohibited them from having friends and from watching MTV, nickelodeon or any movies featuring strong alpha men.

Sure being raised by prudes, having to go to sunday school and having to endure "abstinence only" sex education is bad, but come on. That doesn't mean that there is a BP brainwashing going on in the media because there will still all the other messages out there that told you otherwise that you somehow missed.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2016-09-20T13:01:12+00:00

Not really something both sides agree on, but actually quite the opposite, but I figured I'd share anyway because I don't know where else this would pop up here.

The notion that women have issues in Mathematics is bullshit.

Feminists insist that women are told that they are bad at math, and as a result don't pursue the field as much as they should. Mathimatics is often totted as the stereotypical male dominated field. Anti-feminists see this as an opportunity to claim that such a disparity exists because women are naturally not disposed for the mathematics, or that they are just worse at it then men. Or that perhaps if "they didn't go into gender studies, there would be more of them in math." I've seen these two sides do this countless times on here and other forums.

But the truth is: women make up almost half of mathematics majors.

Yeah, that's right, the talking point for both sides is complete bullshit. Lets look at the actual facts of the matter from the National Center for Education Statistics. In 2014, there were 9,013 women's awarded bachelor's degrees in Mathematics, out of 20,980 total who were issues the degree. That's about 43% of the graduating mathematics field being women.

Now some might say, "well that's only 43%, there is still a bias," perhaps, but that bias is pretty pathetic compared to lets say computer science or psychology, which are were 18% and 77%, respectively. In contrast to the male dominated field of Computer Science, or the female dominated field of Psychology, Mathematics looks fucking fantastic, yet people still complain about it.

Fun Fact: There are three times more actual Home Ec Majors (24,722), then there are people in Gender Studies (8,275).

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Sandralees · 2016-09-20T12:28:55+00:00

It seems both sides were willing to agree that feminism was emerging to be problematic in recent months(years?).

No. I have not seen any recent trend or event that would render feminism to be problematic lately.

sunkindonut149 · 2016-09-20T15:16:13+00:00

I think that hard core feminism can sometimes be a women and gay version of TRP.

Also, there is a man I know who engaged in AFBB. He only dated hot and popular girls in his teens and early 20s. As he was getting into his late 20s he started dating women in their 40s who give him money. He is now a stay at home dad.

COPCO2 · 2016-09-20T15:23:34+00:00

IMO, the overlap is with the opinion that dating is a minefield and you need to avoid shitty people.

But my opinion is that it applies to everything, not just dating, and you should attempt to do this by avoiding the shitty people, not by trying to become an even shittier person.

voteGOPk · 2016-09-20T20:50:48+00:00

most BP on here seem sensible, in reality they are all "purple pill"

none seem to deny the existence of the "sexual market place" and that people typically pair with looksmatched people. I've seen some admit (and hate) that women sometimes play games ("shit tests") and that these are typically just shitty people not necessarily a gendered thing in their view.

I think most just don't like the tone of red pill ideas.

Really, I can see more filtered red pill advice being accepted by everyone without any problems.

_Rookwood_ · 2016-09-21T00:32:04+00:00

There is definitely a common ground. Once a BPer ignores the deliberately provocautive sexism displayed by trp...they quickly agree to several key axioms laid out by trp. I reckon most of BP is a rage against the sexism of trp which is actually reasonable most of the time. I mean you cannot defend 'women are children' line of thought....

redmachines · 2016-09-21T02:09:34+00:00

Common ground: Women do not have agency. They are incapable of making mistakes.

andrewisgood · 2016-09-21T02:16:18+00:00

Some women are terrible people. Some women are everything the red pill says they are.

In regards to feminism, there have been problems stemming from even it's beginning with the lack of awareness of issues of women of different minority groups. Then there was 2nd wave feminism and the "Lavander menace" and with 3rd wave, there seems to be more intersectionality and people looking to be aware of the feelings of others. Or, are you talking about how some people can be problematic.

See, when you say words like some, it's easy to agree. I can post anywhere that some women are terrible people and everyone will agree, because everyone knows that terrible people exist. But it's when you take the extra step of it being apart of a woman's nature, that's where you cross the line and you have to get better evidence for a claim that's becomes difficult to prove.

Title	Common ground between BP and RP?
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Date	September 20, 2016 11:13 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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