From the other thread earlier, I noticed the consensus among redpill males seemed to be along the lines of

I grew up with all kinds of messages.

It is impossible for me to pinpoint in hindsight what exactly made me become a clueless beta pushover.

But I can say that the aggregate of messages was so effective in making me who I was that it feels like it was an orchestrated effort in emasculating me.

I know that it wasn't an orchestrated effort. Again: I know that it wasn't an orchestrated effort.

I only know that it was very effective.

Suppose we accept this premise as true and accurate. There is some sort of societal message to men that shapes their maturation into low quality beta partners.

Is it not at least equally as true that all the faults redpillers ascribe to women (promiscuity, independence, careerism, etc) are societally impressed upon them? You'd have to be blind as a bat not to see the overwhelming social message to girls that the only acceptable life path is a college degree, a career, modern dating, etc.

So why do RPM have nothing but disgust for women who realize that what society has taught them is not actually the best route to happiness and change their priorities (settling down from their partying years and looking for a husband and raise a family)? While the same RPM are demanding sympathy for the same exact professed plight?

And really, a change of priorities toward a desire to settle down, be financially responsible, raise a wholesome family, etc. sounds a whole lot more admirable than the RPM change of priorities toward bitterness, anger, and revenge by emotionally fucking over any women they can.

So PPD, any thoughts?