No Men Beyond This Point

margerym · 2016-05-01T22:44:55+00:00

Revenge. Really, that's what the modern feminist movement (and, thus, society as a whole) has become about re: men. Revenge. It's not about equality, it's not about freedom, it's about payback. Men are to be taught a lesson. Men need to sit down because "it's our turn now". There is a clear vendetta. It's so clear, in fact, that when you point it out to a feminist they tend to shrug it off.

Have you seen the new app that divides a group bill up so that the man has to pay more? Because misogyny or something. Again, REVENGE

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-05-01T23:13:52+00:00

How does this make you feel?

I feel this is interesting masturbatory material for radical feminists. Not sure if i'm supposed to have a strong emotional response beyond that.

How do you think it would go over if this mockumentary had the genders switched?

There would be rampant accusations of misogyny. Jezebel would have a field day. Instead of sneering glee, feminists would experience paroxysms of triggered-ness.

As I haven't actually watched the mockumentary, I have to wonder what the point is.

To make money. Female superiority over men is this chic, popular new theory. It's hip, edgy, and you can totes get away with it cuz like, who cares about angry privileged males? Let's continue to use them as punching bags since they can't do anything back. Hate sells, especially when it's whatever flavor-of-the-decade hate the intelligentsia and academia are currently pushing.

SlightlyCritical · 2016-05-01T22:55:53+00:00

I can't tell if this a fantasy concocted by misandrists, MGTOW fear mongering, or someone trying to stir drama between the two.

lady_baker · 2016-05-02T02:05:40+00:00

I find the idea too repulsive to even watch a trailer.

tallwheel · 2016-05-02T07:43:16+00:00

Whenever the idea of an all-woman society is brought up, I have to ask who is going to do all the physical labor? Who is going to do construction, mining, and other physical tasks? Sure, there are women who are capable of performing these tasks, but I think it would be very difficult to meet demand in an an-female world unless robotic technology had progressed quite a bit further than it has currently.

despisedlove2 · 2016-05-02T01:58:56+00:00

The media has been playing the "dumb" man, "smart" woman game for so long that it goes without much comment these days. It is the politically correct thing to say.

As to a world without men, that is a feminist goal. Of course, the "smart" women that they are, once they achieve it and the likes of me are history, they are going to run into a few problems.

In a survivor show that was shut down for being politically incorrect, they found that when groups of men and women compete against each other, the women end up accomplishing almost nothing because of their internal jealousies and inability to suck it up and work in a team.

Returning to the media, it is almost as if anything that reveals the limitations of the female nature is off limits.

lbspredh · 2016-05-02T11:26:51+00:00

it's false, someone still has to open jars

seriously though it's hard to give credibility to silly what if scenarios, even ignoring the vested interest making them borderline propaganda

yo_radical_one · 2016-05-02T13:23:45+00:00

I've come to the conclusion that most interactions in life are a powerplay.

We live in a society which frowns on violence as a means to reinforce socially accepted behaviour and instead uses passive coercion. If men feel they are mistreated in the modern Western world, rather than attacking women, they should create and improve value and remove themselves from the system.

An example of this would be wealthy Western men tying their money up in foreign accounts and marrying eastern women. The point is that women only hate incompetent blokey male types.

Littleknownfacts · 2016-05-01T22:50:29+00:00

How does this make you feel? RP, does it make think, "yep, this is exactly where we're headed," or even "we're essentially already there, minus the birth rate stuff." BP, does it make you roll your eyes? Does it make you think, "yep, that's where we should be headed," or maybe "this is just men getting a taste of their own medicine." Or something else entirely?

It made me giggle to be honest. I'd like to see the whole movie. If you know where I can find it, please share. But its meant to be entertainment, in no way is the world headed towards the extinction towards an entire sex and on no way is it 'a taste of their own medicine'.

How do you think it would go over if this mockumentary had the genders switched? In the short trailer men are shown to generally be bumbling baffoons, and women are the enlightened and exalted leaders. Do you think a genderswapped version would get the same reaction (generally positive, from the page that I first saw it on)? Would it even get funded/produced at all?

I don't think the genders could have been switched. It wouldn't make any sense that way. Even artificial breeding for men would not quench their need for effeminate energy. That's one of the reasons that women are held to higher value than men. Because women are the givers of life, men are the takers of life.

As I haven't actually watched the mockumentary, I have to wonder what the point is. How does it end? For anyone who knows, please let me know. Otherwise; Do you think the point is to show that a society like that is never going to work (where one gender is "lesser" than the other)? Or alternatively, do you think the point is that men are actually useless and women should be in charge?

I think the first and foremost point of this movie is to be silly. The possible second reason is to highlight the nessecity of both sexes. We know what happens with out women, there is no life. But the movie highlights that without men, there is no life worth living. None of the women 'interviewed' really seemed pleased with the situation, as demonstrated by the one woman that had to leave the interview when her partner said that "men still exist".

Part of me thinks there's no way that the "point" could be that men are actually the worst and that women should run the world, but then again, I know how the media tends to be nowadays. I wouldn't put it past them. My guess is that they're trying to put men in the "traditionally feminine" roll, to "show them how it feels," and the documentary would end with everyone working together in an "egalitarian" society. That seems to be the most PC option, at least.

I don't think that's a proper synopsis, because at no point in history have women ever been disposable, the way that the men in the movie are. That is one of the benefits of being a woman with internal value. Putting men in that role, where their value is internal is a recipe for disaster, because without being able to supply life, they don't have internal value.

Whisper · 2016-05-02T22:39:42+00:00

Women don't understand the value of men until they are cold, hungry, or afraid.

ifelsedowhile · 2016-05-02T08:08:26+00:00

as already duly noted, in a world with no men, who's gonna do all the men's work? I suspect this kind of question is left unanswered in the film because feminists are oblivious to the fact that they live in a world of comforts and technology because men provide those things. unless the film is not feminist but rather a parody of it.

duckyhunter · 2016-05-02T17:55:38+00:00

How do I feel about a film intended to piss me off?

Pissed off, obviously.

sublimemongrel · 2016-05-02T00:24:21+00:00

I mean it appears to be clearly a joke/satire. Seems like it's making fun of feminism, actually, because the behavior in the trailer is so fanatical. Do you think if suddenly all babies being born were women that the majority of women would actually take this perspective? Nah, most of us love men.

gavinok · 2016-05-01T23:33:18+00:00

How does this make you feel? RP, does it make think, "yep, this is exactly where we're headed," or even "we're essentially already there, minus the birth rate stuff."

It doesn't concern me in the least bit, as it's perspective that ignores key factors.

Part of feminism, and especially sex positive feminism is to liberate women in a place to have full sexual freedom. If sex positive feminism keeps winning and sex negative feminism loses, men will never be fully taken out of the equation.
The vast majority of countries on Earth are not feminist minded, and the most important of those countries is Russia. A country like the US being run by women will be essentially weakened due to low threshold of nationalism, and countries like Russia or China will invade.

justtypingcuz · 2016-05-03T00:55:11+00:00

Idk how women can talk about how replacable men are when the only real necessity women fullfill in society is child birth. I really do think artificial wombs are going to be a game changer for how much value society puts on women. Add to that a way to rid women of the strangle hold they have on male sexuality (such as sexbots or vr sex) and women are pretty much useless. Nothing else needed.

LordFishFinger · 2016-05-02T17:11:57+00:00

Looks like a ripoff of Sexmission. I'm guessing it has a lot of dumb jokes about stereotypes (woman fixing a car, man doing the dishes, LOL!).

rediod6 · 2016-05-02T22:31:19+00:00

I remember hearing about this video and thinking I would get really offended by it or something like that, but then I actually watched it and it was very tame to the point where I don't even get the point of making such a video. Does anyone really believe that if women were in charge of every facet of life, the world would suddenly become a fluffier place?

I'll just sit here waiting for the Y The Last Man movie or TV adaptation.

justtypingcuz · 2016-05-03T00:03:27+00:00

Its sad to see how men and women (but mostly women) see the opposite sex as enemies. The upside of being a man atleast is that if men and women ever really did get tired of eachother and wanted to wipe each other out (which seems like a feminsts dream)im going to be on the winning side. Women always shout about how men are obsolete but im pretty sure if men and women got into an actual war of the sexes women aint winnin.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2016-05-02T00:34:19+00:00

I think there should be a focus on allowing men to be more feminine, however, I do not think that it is ever justifiable to say that any sex is better than other other, and certainly I don't think it would be idea if there was only one sex. Thinking one sex is better is the definition of sexism.

I actually do have some friends who do think that women should rule the world, and that it would be better if there were no men... and I usually hear this from men. -_-'

GoldPilot · 2016-05-02T01:25:57+00:00

That was pretty goddamn funny, actually. I'd watch this, provided it isn't trying to make an actual point besides comedy. I have no other thoughts besides laughter.
Wouldn't be nearly as funny. The women weren't even portrayed as enlightened leaders; where the men were being portrayed as victims and buffoons, the majority of women were portrayed as nutcases. It was a work of comedy, not a tragic oppression piece.
I think it's a comedy. I don't view it as a valid critique on the human condition. I know all art comes from a point of truth, but I haven't seen the movie, and when I do (I can't seem to track it down), I'll probably just find it funny, unless there's some hamfisted soliloquy that says "think of the meeeeeeeeen."

EDIT: Some sources say it was released in 2015, and others say 2016. I'm guessing in 2015 it made the rounds at a film festival, and hasn't reached the market yet?

nomdplume · 2016-05-02T02:23:49+00:00

Ideas about the "end of men" have been a thing for while.

I listened to an interview with a best-selling feminist recently, and she is eagerly anticipating an end to marriage, a time when women can be truly independent and will have no need of men.

And honestly, while I get the concerns about "branch swinging", I think the greater competition for men is women (especially women who already have had their kids) going WGTOW. A lot of women just get divorced and stay single - there is literally nothing a man can provide (unless he's crazy rich and interested in marrying a divorcee, most likely with kids) that she can't get or do for herself.

I'm pretty sure that, if my wife divorced me, she wouldn't be interested in finding another partner. I'm useless enough in her eyes, and she has a kind of love for me that only comes from spending more than half of your entire life with someone. How could any man who is not fabulously handsome and wealthy and high-status even attempt to give her anything more? She already makes six figures and can hire men (or get her many male friends to help her) for whatever she needs and she already is a mother - she's pretty set for life...

I'm surprised WGTOW isn't discussed here more. It might be more significant than MGTOW.

EmilyCharland · 2016-05-02T00:21:55+00:00

I think it's fantasy and has very little to do with where we are now and where we are going
I think it would be more offensive, but only because there actually was/is a widespread idea that men are more enlightened and better leaders than women, and a movie like that might seem like it's reinforcing this outdated notion, whereas this mockumentary is just silly.
I can't really see what the point may be. The trailer doesn't seem to promise any intriguing exploration of society and gender issues.

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VermiciousKnidzz · 2016-05-02T14:51:29+00:00

i did roll my eyes and cringe a lot. i think its pretty funny that you put some women in the white house (not enough, anyway) and tell men to stop treating women like walking sex toys and the misogynists lose their minds. people said that giving minorities equal rights would cause the downfall of society and we now realize that was silly (though some terpers might still think that). i think what will happen is women will continue to gain more equality and misogynists will continue to complain and eventually we wont have to scold men for cat calling like children.
lol no idea. i think it would still be equally as ridiculous

Title	No Men Beyond This Point
Author	purple_lock
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Date	May 1, 2016 10:23 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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