Self Improvement, what's the point?

Purple_Cruncher_123 · 2023-06-05T04:04:54+00:00

And what for, to attract a partner or for other reasons?

Because I like being better me vs. worse me. Lean me vs. fat me. Educated me vs. ignorant me. Social me vs. shut-in me. Moneyed me vs. broke me. My toughest opponent is today me vs. tomorrow me, and I have a ton of intel on that asshole (though he puts up an incredible fight).

In the hunt for improvement, I experience new and novel things I otherwise would not have. Navigating them successfully builds confidence - anxiety of the unknown is reduced. And with each new experience successfully weathered, the world becomes that much less anxiety-inducing. Many things that seemed hard, stressful, embarrassing to 18 year-old-me doesn't even register anymore. That peace of mind alone is worth self-improving for.

Shoesandhose · 2023-06-05T03:27:47+00:00

For your mental health. Seriously. I don’t recommend the gym. It’s so frickin boring. I recommend a new physical hobby. Like rock climbing! Or frisbee golf.

Just something that gets you social and out of your daily routine.

It’s super good for my mental health. Like super good. I think too many people make things about finding a partner or hooking up.

Getting out of the house to do something that isn’t work is just plain good for you. I think a relationship can be an added benefit and bonus of this.

But if a relationship is someone’s only goal for self help and change, they are probably doomed to fail. But just to get you out of your head and feel like a person, 100% better

Former_Molasses_7073 · 2023-06-05T03:49:36+00:00

Self improvement is more about taking things you are passionate about and becoming a master at them. This leads to lasting happiness and fulfillment.

Example, your username indicates you might like attack on titan or anime. Do something with that. Start a youtube channel, or do cosplay stuff.

eefr · 2023-06-05T04:04:52+00:00

You should exercise because, in general, it will prolong your life, improve your mental health, and lower your chances of developing chronic health conditions.

You should get a good job, and whatever education you need to facilitate that, so that you'll be free of financial stress and won't have to try to navigate the world while in desperate poverty.

You can choose whether or not to seek relationships with people. If you don't want to, feel free to pass. No one's making you date anyone.

mike-sonko · 2023-06-05T04:08:53+00:00

For what you ask? To improve my chances with women

Herein lies your problem. Self improvement should PRIMARILY be for you. Everything else is a byproduct of self improvement. If you're doing it for women, you will be sorely disappointed if it doesn't work out.

Body self improvement worked for me was prompted by my doctor. I was at an unhealthy weight, living a sedentary and unhealthy lifestyle. Educational self improvement was triggered by me wanting to rise in the ranks in my profession, so I got a Masters and a multitude of certifications. The result: I lost a bunch of weight and my body is very toned(Also being 6ft+ helps); I got promotions at my job at the time, ended up switching jobs and now I'm at a job that is extremely rewarding both professionally and financially. Consequently I got more attention from women. If I didn't, I would be fine because I had achieved my personal goals

GlasgaAccentfurYanks · 2023-06-05T03:28:21+00:00

Have a vision of you and the life you want, craft it day by day patiently. I am sure you are worth it.

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-06-05T03:31:13+00:00

INFO: so you are saying you are not interested in women your own age?

KayRay1994 · 2023-06-05T04:14:19+00:00

well for one thing if you’re improving yourself for someone else you’ve already failed - genuine self improvement comes from a place of doing better because you want better for yourself, its about realizing that you owe it to yourself to give yourself the best life you can - and hell, if nobody wants you and you worked on yourself, at least you’re far less miserable than you were before - that being said, i also think improving one’s self internally is just as important - ie. plastic surgery and so on are all kinda pointless if you feel like garbage inside (then again i am fundamentally against plastic surgery outside the need for necessity - ex. burn victims, serious deformities, breast removal due to cancer, etc) - go to the gym, make more money but also focus on your mental health - whether it means therapy, support groups, self care activists, etc

also to be fully blunt - your attitude is kinda shitty and dehumanizing “i don’t want 30 year old women (which reads me to me as “ew they’re too old”) so i won’t improve my own life” - reflect on that thought

Soloandthewookiee · 2023-06-05T04:15:45+00:00

To go to the gym and work out, do activities

With you so far.

get degrees for a better job and get more money. Or spend money on more superficial medical operations(such as teeth whitening, hair implants, laser operation of skin/eyes).

Who is telling you to go to college and get plastic surgery just to get women?

The point of self improvement is not to get women, it's to improve yourself. Dating success is a side effect, not the main goal.

What's the point of putting that much effort into women i don't want? Seems a waste of effort if i only attract women who i don't want.

You don't want women around your age?

szclimber · 2023-06-05T04:23:30+00:00

What type of women do you want?

bluestjuice · 2023-06-05T04:36:05+00:00

If you do not want to get a better job, if you are happy with your current level of fitness and your current activities, then no, I see no reason to change those things. The purpose of improvement is to improve your life, which is to say, to draw incrementally closer to the ideal life as envisioned by you. Some people find satisfaction in chasing promotions or reaching gym gains, but those are only a few ways to improve.

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big_guy_not_small · 2023-06-05T03:46:53+00:00

I don't get it, why would those things only help with women over 30? I'd argue that looking as hot as possible would benefit the most to the 20-29 crowd.

I do self-improvement to attract women, yes. It just doesn't do much for my overall mental health personally. I find the maintenance aspect of it to be very tedious.

Although I'm addicted to weightlifting so I genuinely enjoy it.

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-06-05T03:51:14+00:00

Improvements to appearance help with women of all ages to a significant degree. Same exact thing when it comes to social skills. Money/status usually only matters to a significant degree to women 27+. So it's not like all self improvement is useless. And even when it comes to money/status, most people want to eventually start a family and have kids, so even if the woman finds you a hot Chad, eventually your money will matter. Because if you're an 8 who makes 50k/year, and near you there is a 7, who makes 150k/year, you'll lose in most cases.

Mrs_Drgree · 2023-06-05T03:59:41+00:00

If you can't get women in their 30s as you are now, why would you think younger women would be interested?

Ciabatta_Scoober · 2023-06-05T04:00:27+00:00

For men self improvement is the perfect mix of worthwhile and grift to keep you coming back to redpill content creators.

On the plus side, it absolutely is worth it outside of dating for the improvements to your own mental health and confidence.

On the negative side, because self-improvement mostly focuses on objective measures where men outperform women, engaging in self-improvement will increase a man's standards more dramatically than it increases his options, actually making finding a partner more difficult. This keeps the man as a steady consumer for redpill content creators and other grifters.

Title	Self Improvement, what's the point?
Author	ErenYeagerwasright
Upvotes	4
Comments	27
Date	June 5, 2023 3:22 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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