Whenever men say "I have reasonable standards" it likely means they have little or no relationship experience.

birdsflygood · 2021-11-22T07:09:35+00:00

I hope this is the case and ideally it would be, but it turns out people are realistically more attracted to the voids we fill in each other, temporarily or permanently.

Mimoxs · 2021-11-22T10:01:25+00:00

I think they just know.

You constantly see the "just be feminine and not obese" thing even though they would not want the majority of women that fall into that category true.

But they know that. They're not necessarily inexperienced or whatever, they just enjoy being abrasive and disingenuous because it portrays women poorly implying women can't meet such simple criteria when many do, which fulfills their revenge compulsions because they feel satisfied thinking they've made women upset or offended.

It's not that they're inexperienced or don't know any better, it's intentional.

Jakes1967 · 2021-11-22T08:45:45+00:00

Whenever men say "I have reasonable standards" it likely means they have little or no relationship experience.

Or that due to meeting all the nutcases out there, we have set "reasonable standards".

Whether they are reasonable to you or not, isn't our concern.

JoeRMD77 · 2021-11-22T08:13:29+00:00

I'm a guy who has long term relationship experience and I think most women have "reasonable standards" given the situation that they are in and most men have "reasonable standards" compared to the situation they are in. But if you compare the two men's standards are well known to be much much more reasonable.

The reason that most men that are good looking enough for your sexual attraction threshold would "bore you to death" is because you most likely have greater expectations than me and most men. You see more options = more expectations from each of those options, as how else would you easily separate all the options from one another without creating a clearly defined list of expectations?

It's psychological, men don't normally develop a long list of standards, not because we don't want those traits, but we all realize that for the overwhelming vast majority of us these expectations are unrealistic for us to reverse apply to women as we need to take what we can get for most of us or be single and sexless for long periods of time. Lower expectations means for most of us we can be satisfied with alot less than a woman would be able to, as whenever expectations aren't met this creates the feeling of dissatisfaction inside your brain.

Personal experience: I dated a girl for 2.5 years that never bored me but wasn't anything special in life other than empathetic/caring and was sexual attractive enough to me. She also worked part time retail while I worked as a fully qualified electrician (so not similar levels of education)

DaMilan · 2021-11-22T09:33:53+00:00

I kinda agree with you that most men talk like it's a little too easy to be "wife material" for them, but keep in mind things like "All I want is for her not to be obese and to be feminine" come out from TRPers corner and while there is some truth to it that this is the average TRPers type, I think when they say things like this they want to "own" BPers with it, since it is often said in a context in which the discussion is about womens standard and they want to illustrate how unreasonable they are compared to mens.

The other thing, like shared worldview and values are true, but since most people have friends and working colleagues in the same class as them and since you meet most of your romantic partners to those, the selection effect will already filter that those things are compatible.

Important: Class dosen't mean just money, an art teacher and car mechanic might make the same amont of money (at least in the US I heard), yet those two professions couldn't attract more different types of people, a marriage between your average art-teacher and your average car-mechanic could not be worse matched. Class is about so much more.

Perseus_the_Bold · 2021-11-22T08:03:43+00:00

Very few men can boast of having numerous relationships.

The standards have to be low or else these men will NEVER find anyone at all.

Women can afford to have as ridiculous of high standards as they wish because they attract men the way a bug lamp attracts the skeeters.

A guy that is not attracting anyone and is the active pursuer getting the brunt of the rejections has to tone down his expectations and ground himself in reality. He will take what he can get, not what he truly wants. Beggars can't be choosers.

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Mark_Freed · 2021-11-22T09:32:55+00:00

You forget we men aren't perfect either. The standards we set need to consider what we bring to the table.

Pilling_it · 2021-11-22T10:29:40+00:00

Long term relationships can ONLY form if:

you have a good sexual attraction towards her your worldview's match your lifestyles match you have some common interests your families accept you your financial situation is stable you're on the same page about having kids you're on a stimiliar level of education

You spelled marriage wrong. Some of them (kids and family mostly) are relevant only in a marriage.

Trust me, there's a lot more that needs to go into your standards. "All I want is for her not to be obese and to be feminine". Too blank of a statement, most of the girls that fit that bill would likely bore you to death because you're a total miss match.

The thing about men, is that the higher you go in the commitment, the more is required. I like to think of this one as the height requirement for women : it filters a shitton of women.

Also, it seems like it's not much, but try to develop that and what it imply, and suddenly you'll see that it's not because the sentence is short that it's nothing.

Lameador · 2021-11-22T10:39:47+00:00

The last part with education is blatantly false. The first part on sexual attraction is mostly trivial.

The six other ones still stand, though. With item number 2 "matching world views" being much bigger than what you describe.

To compound the problem, feminism has created a chasm as globally women will be on the progressive side of many issues, and men on the conservative one. Meaning that , isf you accept the oversimplification, "I want a conservative woman" or "I want a progressive man" are actually pretty harsh requirements.

BlankVoid2979 · 2021-11-22T11:30:01+00:00

I agree because that was me before i had exprience lmfao 😂

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-11-22T11:35:19+00:00

Removed for OP abandonment

Barely-moral · 2021-11-22T11:36:56+00:00

you have a good sexual attraction towards her

Sure, that is necessary

your worldview's match

I don't need that. At all.

your lifestyles match

Sure, that is necessary

you have some common interests

I don't need this at all. I can make myself interested in anything.

your families accept you

Fuck that. Anyone that doesn't accept us can go fuck themselves.

your financial situation is stable

I personally need so little to live that most people would call that unstable but sure, I agree. Most women do need a stable financial situation.

you're on the same page about having kids

Correct.

you're on a stimiliar level of education

Fuck that. Not needed. If anything that would be a negative.

"All I want is for her not to be obese and to be feminine". Too blank of a statement, most of the girls that fit that bill would likely bore you to death because you're a total miss match.

Why would I rely on my partner for entertainment? I can take care of boredom on my own.

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-11-22T07:54:43+00:00

Well, barest minimum standards are needed to get a practice girlfriend, and that's all a guy need to do - more guys should be encouraged to get practice girlfriends.

insertcredit2 · 2021-11-22T09:48:44+00:00

Those things matter when you're in you're late 20s early 30s they don't matter when you're in your teens/early 20s.

Eastuss · 2021-11-22T08:10:52+00:00

Because you think men who fuck post wall post pregnancy wives since decades have high standards?

If you expect worldview, lifestyle, educational and financial match as a man, you're just going to be a delusional incel.

Her not being obese and her being feminine is really just what it takes to be attracted for a long time. Worldviews and lifestyles do not have to match, in fact they shouldn't match, it's better she compensates you in a feminine way and you compensate her in a masculine way.

Title	Whenever men say "I have reasonable standards" it likely means they have little or no relationship experience.
Author	ogsimpology
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Date	November 22, 2021 6:56 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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