You can’t negotiate attraction.

wtknight · 2024-10-03T16:32:50+00:00

Removed. No posts about looks.

63daddy · 2024-10-03T15:54:23+00:00

Attraction isn’t just physical. Many women are for example attracted to men who can provide, and what is provided can absolutely be negotiated. Some young women (sugar babies, etc.), being attracted to older men for their wealth being an obvious example.

Fair-Bus-4017 · 2024-10-03T15:42:59+00:00

Attraction isn't fully decided by looks. It's a good chunk of it but a lot of other factors play a part in it. If you are ugly you can most definitely still find love especially with someone as physically attractive as you.

emax4 · 2024-10-03T16:05:07+00:00

One woman's 7 is another woman's 4. And the guy who gets judged for being a 7 may find the judge's non-physical traits unattractive, thus downgrading that judge to a 4.

krackedy · 2024-10-03T15:38:22+00:00

Not everyone can be a 7 by improving their looks.

Should those men just give up?

I'm 5'5 and make $50k a year. According to this subreddit I should be a lonely miserable virgin.

Attraction can be weird. It can grow over time. It can be triggered by non-physical things. It's not the same for every woman either.

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-10-03T15:53:27+00:00

You could be fat, very short, but if you got hella lifestyle you can have very attractive women legitimately all over you. Women are attracted to all that’s around you. Everything a guy can do is bait to eventually get someone to love the real you.

That being said looksmaxing is the number one thing you can do by far to get more desirable women. Elon isn’t getting actresses and models so easy without jaw and hair implants. Bill Gates just as rich and he can’t get that, he isn’t attractive enough.

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MrAnonPoster · 2024-10-03T15:47:50+00:00

Some people may tell unattractive short guys that they need to become funny, or make a lot money to get women.
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All you are doing is an advanced version of prostitution, sure you may find a girl but if the girl does not find you physically attractive nothing is gonna happen.

So. How broke are you in addition to being short and dark skinned? Because I honestly heard a lot about the average height indian guys with 6 packs and $250k/year software engineering jobs who are miserable ( heard in the land internet forums ) but to me they are absolute unicorns - i work in that industry and the bros are cleaning the clock of most worm looking 5'10-6'1 white dudes who are terrified of women.

Solondthewookiee · 2024-10-03T15:58:13+00:00

No you can't negotiate it, but you can supplement it. Despite what many dudes here will tell you, physical appearance is not the only element of attraction.

MoshiMoshi78 · 2024-10-03T16:08:24+00:00

You are right in the sense that you cannot logically reason yourself into a woman's bed. That fact shouldn't even be mentioned. But what you fail to realize is that attraction can develop from a multitude of simultaneous factors, including looks. Charm, personality, being socially adept, confident, playfull, knowing how to create sexual tension etc etc all help.

An average-looking guy who has a magnetic personality can create a spark.

And sometimes it’s just subjective and how two people click. I could have spark with one guy and my friend doesn’t even if the three of us are all looksmatched. You simply can't really forsee when you're drawn to somone specifically, primally, animalistically in that addicting way. And my friend, that thing, is what we all want. And the beautiful thing is, it's not dependent on wealth, on the shape of your jaw, on the size of your muscles, on your height.... it's all dependent on two people who want to fuck and can't keep their hands off each other.

ThatBitchA · 2024-10-03T16:12:40+00:00

The world is full of 0-6 women. Date one of them. Idk why those men think they are better than a woman who is their equivalent.

Once again, attraction is more than looks.

sanslumiere · 2024-10-03T16:13:24+00:00

Disagree. If you're charming and can hold frame, the world is your oyster. Being able to consistently convince other people to like you is maybe the most powerful characteristic a person can have in all elements of life. And women are absolutely attracted to that.

That said, it's probably easier to diet/exercise/work on styling than it is to develop that trait, if it's not innate.

ppzhao · 2024-10-03T16:24:43+00:00

OP may not understand what makes men attractive to women. Unlike women's attractiveness, which is 90% physical, men's attractive is more comprehensive. Confidence, humor, (display of) wealth, leadership qualities, respect of others (social proof), etc, all goes towards a man's attractiveness. It's hard to quantify how much looks matter, but I'd say 40% max comparing to the 90% vice-versa.

waffleznstuff30 · 2024-10-03T16:27:27+00:00

You can't. I think initially there is a spark or something about that person. And what that "it" factor is can determine attraction and you become very attracted to them. What that "it" factor is, is completely up to the person.

I think attraction can grow or fade.

So you see someone hot. Then they say something really stupid or are an arrogant prick or just talk about themselves nonstop and what would be a really hot guy is just a hot bag of air. Or they aren't your type but you talk with them or they have a certain thing you like so it grows on you.

SaBahRub · 2024-10-03T15:34:59+00:00

Yes you can

With money, status, skill or charm. Women will fuck you to get and keep it for themselves

Title	You can’t negotiate attraction.
Author	TumbleweedEast9077
Upvotes	4
Comments	39
Date	October 3, 2024 3:32 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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