Cheating whores and what you can do to help.

whiskey_bearfist · 2013-11-27T08:28:33+00:00

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HumanSockPuppet · 2013-11-27T08:19:22+00:00

Honor is a male abstraction

I would add this caveat:

Honour is for your male family members and allies. Everyone else is just competition.

I will extend the "bro code" to a stranger if I intend on turning him into a friend (as a gesture of good will). But for the most part, playing a taken girl is fair game.

Her vow of monogamy is between she and her boyfriend. It's neither your responsibility nor your business to uphold any part of their private contract.

drrrrrr · 2013-11-27T08:07:17+00:00

This is stupid. You don't live for your "brother men". Often times at a club, the hottest girls will have a man in some sort of relationship. If you are turning down girls you want to fuck because of some self-sacrificial moral, then you aren't RP. You are the equivalent of a nice guy who can't muster up the balls to fuck this girl because of some rationalization about how he has to be "good", and fucking her hard would be bad.

TRP gets infested with this "don't fuck a taken girl, bro" mentality. And it's generally from butthurt dudes who's gfs in their beta days got railed on the side. Newsflash: you aren't alpha if you place a beta's wishes above your own. In business do you not release a great product because of how many people it will put out of business? Fuck no, that is bullshit.

Optimizing your sexual strategy means increasing the quality of partners. Being alpha means an increase in both quality and quantity, which in turn means that often times, the girls will have a man in some sort of situation. Which leads us to the next problem with this bromance shit: you are terming her as a cheating whore, when in truth, she is just a woman. Woman are programmed to forget about their beta bf for an alpha, the fact that she does this means that she is how nature intended her to be. She doesn't BELONG to him, she is anyone's for the night. If she did belong to him, aka he had the traits necessary to hold a hot chick down, then chances are you wouldn't be able to fuck her anyway.

Look, at the end of the day, if you don't want to fuck a girl, then don't That's your moral choice. But don't act like it's some part of TRP's objectively optimal sexual strategy. All you are doing is losing out of pussy in some attempt to feel morally superior to the guy she will cheat with when you send her off.

aaron_the_just · 2013-11-27T15:18:28+00:00

A better policy is to simply say "no, but if you decide to dump him, give me a call".

(For bonus points, next her after that.)

TRPsubmitter · 2013-11-27T12:52:53+00:00

You're way off base here. You have your own rationale for your choices. That's fine and you can take that to the bank.

But if I want to fuck a girl and she wants to as well, that's the only thing that matters. Everything else you have said in order to redefine TRP/alpha behavior to being "honorable" is irrelevant. Because any relationship/sexual interaction only comes down to what two people want...with no fucks given to anyone else.

Tell her "no" if you don't want to and own it; or go ahead and fuck any girl you want if you want to. Everything else is just you trying to make other guys think like you.

And all people are responsible for their own choices (including cheating). That is one of the most important tenants of TRP and it's pretty crazy you have forsaken that.

Endevour · 2013-11-27T07:12:10+00:00

If most people had your resolve, the world would be a very different place.

BIG_Daddy_Government · 2013-11-27T07:14:18+00:00

you're OFF your mark.

You do realise that ALPHA traits are attractive? the only reason women can't resist that alpha fucks are because of dem tingles. She's in a relationship for her emotional validation, she's sleeping around because she's attracted to alpha traits. You're giving a blue pill deeper meaning to sex when there isn't. You not fucking her actually is letting that chump live in the delusion that his gf is a good human being who doesn't have the will or actions of a cheating one.

Why assume all men are good human beings worth fighting for? come on you're smarter than that..

Jibouti · 2013-11-27T09:37:08+00:00

It's about time someone shared this point of view. The concept of honour is something that is spoken about quite frequently here but very rarely do I see it acted upon; "she has a boyfriend? Not my problem. Alpha fucks, beta bucks!".

No matter how matter how much you try to rationalise -- or hamster it shall I say-- it is a dishonourable act.

TRP is about living life the way you want to live and I applaud and respect you for choosing an honourable path with firm conviction.

HomeHeatingTips · 2013-11-27T15:02:56+00:00

Half the posts in this sub are how to get "girlfriends" and "wives" to leave their beta provider men at home and get some from a real alpha. Is this post entirely hypocritical to everything trp normally upvotes?

monsieurhire2 · 2013-11-27T07:32:03+00:00

I admire your sentiments, however, you wrote that she was "in the early stages of a relationship." Arguably, this may not have been cheating, as she may have just been dating someone casually, even if monogamously, and then you came along, so in actuality she wasn't dating exclusively. Now, had you written that she was married, or in a serious LTR, I would agree with you.

A_Seabear · 2013-11-27T07:48:34+00:00

I can certainly respect this opinion. Doesn't mean I'd do the same thing every time though.

2013-11-27T14:22:15+00:00

This is very blue pill. You are seeing the world the way you want it to be, instead of the way it is. Nothing you say or do is going to stop women from cheating or men from eagerly fucking them. If that is your moral code, then try to live by it... but trying to convince others is like yelling at the sky to stop raining. Ineffective and makes you look foolish.

Nemester · 2013-11-27T14:33:16+00:00

Ummm.... No. All is fair in love and war.

-Shifter- · 2013-11-27T16:53:31+00:00

I next all cheating whores not because I respect their non-pertinent boyfriends but because cheating is against my values.

I next them for ME.

Satchmo84 · 2013-11-27T18:07:07+00:00

I can appreciate you doing this for yourself, but in the end, she's invariably going to fuck somebody else, and no lesson will be learned by her, we can only hope that the poor sap she's involved with now wises up and is able to learn from it. But you can't fight natural genetic programming. Even in some fantasy world where you were able to convince every alpha to adhere to this, she would simply lower the bar till someone gave her what she wanted, even if it's that drive thru she swore she'd never go to again cause she told herself, STEAK this time.

StevenAFrench · 2013-11-27T08:36:29+00:00

"It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money"

2013-11-27T15:53:10+00:00

I happen to know there are at least 56 guys here who agree with this chump...but that's neither here nor there.

Relationships are brutally ruthless. If you manage to get a good looking, talented, intelligent woman to want to have a relationship with you it's all uphill until it's over. In the initial stages you need to be on the lookout for interlopers at all times. After a sufficient amount of time, or until she's sufficiently invested to the point where it costs her more to leave than stay, you can throttle back enough just to ensure your investment is working for you.

I used to be that guy who would indiscriminately fuck married women and not look back. Now? My moral evolution has shifted to "I'll still do it....but I'll provide evidence to her guy after I'm done with her so he isn't living a lie."

Cyralea · 2013-11-27T11:09:16+00:00

Yeah, I disagree with you. If I don't know the other guy, I don't care. I used to, until a series of events changed my mind.

fragglemook · 2013-11-27T11:01:14+00:00

Well, I'll help the poor lass out with a large portion of love truncheon if you're not going to. You can hold aloft the mighty sword of ethics and I'll ride the battlecat in a battering motion through her back door.

2013-11-27T15:34:12+00:00

I think in the long run you'd be helping the dude by screwing her because he'll never know how much of a lying fuck bag she is and how he should dump her ass until he gets fucked over. Might even find TRP.

vengefully_yours · 2013-11-27T15:48:54+00:00

Fuck that. As if those betas and omega losers wouldn't stick their dick in my bitch if she gave them half a chance. The only way I will not fuck a woman who is into me, is attractive, taken or not, is if she is with one of my roommates. If its a good friend, I will let him know she is a slut, and we both will fuck her. Been there done that. Some random asshole? Yeah his bitch is getting plowed.

icallmyselfmonster · 2013-11-27T14:17:09+00:00

I don't subscribe to monogamy, even if I got married. Maybe is a Chimp Bonobo thing and I side more Bonobo. I think if you invest too much it hurts harder. Why even have the need to invest? So you have a soul partner, a confident, somebody to hold hands with forever?

It just doesn't happen like that, so why set it up to fail?

Cyralea · 2013-11-27T13:19:19+00:00

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Mandeponium · 2013-11-27T17:29:00+00:00

I find it interesting that there's a lot of disagreement on this subject. On the one hand: "Sexual strategy is amoral. Get it however you can."

On the other: "Cheating is bad and you should feel bad."

I will say this: Neither TheRedPill nor sex is my religion. Christianity is. So personally, I salute OP. But for all the bros and hos out there who like to fuck around, I give a very weak "meh."

Sirinon · 2013-11-27T10:24:18+00:00

"there is always another one around the corner."

Good job on telling her to leave once shit got weird, one of the best lessons I learned is the second a girl goes past basic shit tests cut her off altogether.

If she is hot she has prob never had a guy do that to her in her entire life!

I'd say 90% of the time they call me within a few weeks to hang out and I fuck them again, at this point they are past where I would consider them girlfriend material but I find the predictability of the above hilarious every time.

P.S, I just realised this is exactly what happened to you!

Fyi I'm not a redpiller but I'll be dammed if I'm gonna let a woman walk over me.

Archwinger · 2013-11-27T15:57:15+00:00

The majority of the world is women and beta men. You can't fix things. Not even if you get every alpha male on the planet to act in solidarity with you.

If you do not fuck this girl, some other guy will. Not even necessarily an alpha. If she really wants to cheat that badly, she'll find another beta who gives her fuzzier feelings for a moment, and you can damn well bet the beta will jump at the opportunity to get laid.

I'm not saying you're wrong to pass on the woman -- as long as you're doing it for the right reasons. If you get value out of being an honorable man and looking at yourself in the mirror the next day, it's worth it. But that's the only reason you should be doing something like this -- not some misguided notion that you're making the world a better place. Because you can't. Things are beyond fixing.

2013-11-27T18:12:28+00:00

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Dishmayhem · 2013-11-27T18:37:04+00:00

some men are so keen to get pussy that they're willing to climb over the corpses of their mentally fallen brothers to get it.

Great line

TXGeck · 2013-11-27T13:55:48+00:00

This seems a bit white knighting to me. I couldn't care less about some cuckold's feelings.

Fixer43 · 2013-11-27T16:27:39+00:00

Damn it I love this subreddit.

SwordfshII · 2013-11-27T15:19:43+00:00

Honor is a male abstraction

I'll rise above this and be the more honourable, stronger man and next her.

You posted both of these contradictory statements

SuperNinKenDo · 2013-11-27T11:15:13+00:00

Good stuff OP, good stuff.

ss_camaro · 2013-11-27T16:10:43+00:00

There isn't a bitch alive worth being a 'backdoor' simp for. That being said, a bitch is a bitch: Mistakes happen.

Party_Liquor · 2013-11-27T14:11:38+00:00

Agreed, well said.

Title	Cheating whores and what you can do to help.
Author	SNAGS_DECKS_DURRIES
Upvotes	83
Comments	66
Date	November 27, 2013 6:32 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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