Fatherhood done right, is...

squidracer · 2016-11-16T02:37:16+00:00

Kids are great man.

Finding a woman worth having them with is a very difficult task however

mugsaucecity · 2016-11-15T18:46:32+00:00

Word dude. Purely from the perspective of biology only, I believe having healthy offspring is the most alpha thing a male mammal can do.

Pedrizzle · 2016-11-16T01:36:29+00:00

My son is my best friend. I didn't know I could love this much until he came along.

Being a father is the best thing that's ever happened to me.

RP-Doctor · 2016-11-15T23:09:44+00:00

Which is exactly why we have such a difficult time here reconciling this with our "never get married" culture. I don't have the answer to this, and adoption and surrogates don't seem to be ideal solutions either.

Undoubtedly most of you will probably ignore everything you ever read here, cry "NAWALT," and then relive the side bar as if you didn't know it was coming. Personally, I'm still looking for a better solution. I think we all should be.

TheFamilyAlpha · 2016-11-16T01:31:24+00:00

I'm a lucky man in that I've got a 7 yr old boy & 4 yr old girl. I get to see the pure & raw masculine and feminine aspect of who we are supposed to be.

My wife & I are on the same page about raising them and thus far our girl is a feminine beauty and our boy is a masculine little man.

I'd decided early on that 7 was the age I would start his Rite of Passage, I wrote a post about it here it's fucking awesome to watch them grow into their 'self'.

Keep leading man.

rollcyclones · 2016-11-16T01:13:11+00:00

Very timely post for me. Today I went to the doctor with my wife to get my first look at my growing baby. It hasn't quite fully hit me yet but it's already changed my view on abortion. When he/she gets here I'll be ready to lead. Great post!

MattyAnon · 2016-11-15T18:57:21+00:00

How are you managing to run things so that the mother isn't in a position to call the cops on you and steal your child away?

aanarchist · 2016-11-16T04:58:10+00:00

i wish i had a dad like you, mine just yelled and beat me.

alphabeta49 · 2016-11-15T23:58:26+00:00

This is why I'm not divorced right now. Their mom, my wife, is a pretty good woman, but if I could do it over I wouldn't be married. But its those little words, the way they look at you and unknowingly expect you to be there. I've decided, after lots of consideration, that it isn't worth destabilizing them to pursue my freedom. When they're older and can understand my choices, maybe. When I'm more financially ready to part ways, maybe. But for now, at least for the next several years, I'm choosing to limit my ability to conquer the female species in order to joyfully and masterfully fulfill my biological obligation to propagate.

That's what it boils down to. Am I selfish or am I selfless?

Another edit, because my finger clicked before my mind did: marriage and fatherhood are not exactly synonymous, though they usually go together in our current society. I will forever respect a man who raises balanced kids who have convictions, without the help of a woman. But having their mom around, when the man is RP enough to keep her hypergamy in check, at the very least serves the kids an example of femininity that in many cases is healthy. I'd love to see more examples of single fathers who are owning the shit out of fatherhood.

Edit: there's also some good discussion going on about fatherhood at MRP. See the thread about "MRP hazards".

whatsthisgarg · 2016-11-16T04:41:53+00:00

It isn't an easy undertaking. It requires strategy, adaptation, discipline and inner fortitude.

Your success as a father is not contingent on anyone else.

For a lot of men, these two statements are at odds.

You didn't mention any life details or what your schedule is like or who does the childcare while you're at work. All that matters and will matter much more later on.

Personally, I was extremely lucky: we didn't really plan on kids, but they came anyway. I was self-employed, so I made my schedule around them. So I have a son and two daughters that are turning out incredibly well-formed, BECAUSE I RAISED THEM. Especially compared to other girls, mine are so secure and happy and calm. It is just a wonder to behold

Only much later did I realize how fucked up the situation could have been if I had been gone for 45 hours a week. My wife is a lovely person, but she would have been a terrible primary caregiver. It would have been absolute bollocks.

If there is any way you can manage this, you really must try. Even if you work at night, then you'd only be away from them for a few hours before they sleep. It will make their life so much better.

Unfortunately there will be some real fucking boring shit. The grinding monotony of daily life. But then you'll look back at those years with fondness.

My kids' friends watch us interact in awe. It's very flattering.

I just helped my (22 yr old) son move. It was hilarious, we were making fun of each other and laughing and shit--this relationship is like we are transcendental brothers.

the_strasburger · 2016-11-16T06:56:20+00:00

I don't think you'll find much disagreement here. The majority of us would probably love to rear healthy children with a beautiful, loyal, loving wife.

Unfortunately, we live in an r-selected mating environment. President-elect Trump is the first of many steps necessary for us to return to our k-selected nature. It can be done. Russia and Eastern Europe are increasingly k-selected, governments are actually incentivizing marriage, family and child rearing. It's a big reason the Left has so much vitriol for Russia these days.

trpbleh123 · 2016-11-16T03:21:36+00:00

Congrats. I'm envious of you. Would love to be a father one day, but the number of quality women that'd I consider having a child dwindle by the day.

AceBenedict23 · 2016-11-16T05:15:19+00:00

You sound like a strong father that he will learn from. And I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. The best thing that we can do, the biggest difference we can make against feminism is raising our children the right way and showing them the path

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-11-15T21:39:24+00:00

The "darkest days" may be behind us now as the Blue Pill world is still stunned by their power being taken away. (many are still crying)

The masculine desire for creation is deeply rooted in our natures.

It will be interesting to see how many MGTOW types will begin to break out of their solitude as they realize there is now some hope.

"Feels Good Man."

SirGaetanDugas · 2016-11-16T12:37:07+00:00

Fatherhood gets even better as they grow.

Still, I would be lying if I said it doesn't cede alot of power in the marriage no matter how badass RedPill one may be.

Dread helps. Be the kids mother's best option and silently enforce boundries with your actions.

watchthesnails · 2016-11-16T17:40:22+00:00

Great. You have virtue that transcends the ability to fuck women. You want not only to conquer, but also to teach. Next step is to be a father to the world. Teach everyone your ways. Subtly, and intelligently. Crush the pill and let everyone snort their fair share, as we are all One.

JizzWall · 2016-11-16T15:55:10+00:00

Got my 1st kid coming soon. I hope I can be a good red pill example for him. I've just swallowed the pill in the last year and really have been working on it. It's tough but not as tough when IDGAF.

It was good to read this for sure. Kinda told me that I dont have to stay married to be a good dad. After reading this, I feel like a may be a better father divorced.

victor_knight · 2016-11-16T03:10:10+00:00

I have two sons of my own but I don't mind donating sperm either. I don't "have to" change the diapers and play catch with all my kids.

edzilla1961 · 2016-11-16T13:48:55+00:00

i have to say that my son is my world (10yr old) everytime i look at him or hear his voice i thank God for that gift he gave me in my son!!! one thing is certain,,,,you may doubt or outright not believe when a woman says that she loves you............but when your child says it.......its way different. when my boy says he loves me......i believe it 200% or ad infinitum.

Crimson_Capsule1232 · 2016-11-16T14:08:19+00:00

Your post really resonates with me and strangely timely. I've got a lot of respect for you as a man and a father figure to your children because, to the weaker man, fatherhood is intimidating, a burden.

It isn't an easy undertaking. It requires strategy, adaptation, discipline and inner fortitude.

However, it speaks volumes when a man who has the option to put forth less effort into the child(ren)'s well being.

My upbringing, like many others in our despicable modern society, took place in a single parent home. Same story, different human. Dude knocks up woman, woman keeps child, dude reveals himself a coward and splits, never attempting to be a part of the child's life. Go ahead and put down the world's smallest violin, I'm going somewhere.

Growing up without a strong father figure in the home can seriously fuck the kids up, girls more so. I've been lucky enough to have a granddad that raised me to be a man, lead by example in business and family dynamics and kept my punk ass in line when I needed it. He was born out of the greatest generation, when you said:

I love him unconditionally and eternally- he is my continuation, my blood, my eternity.

You reminded me that there are good men that still share the same masculine fatherhood mentality.

And fatherhood, done right, is the antithesis of Blue Pill: It is crushing the red pill, cutting it in to lines and snorting that shit.

I believe that this really is the truest statement in regards to being a father. You are giving your children the tools to survive and succeed in life. Our modern society is really bad at accepting responsibility, look at HRC, and the greatest gift a father, or grandfather in my case, can give is passing onto his (grand)children what a man looks, acts and embodies.

Lastly...

It will also be your greatest offensive campaign against modern feminism- your very own battle of Normandy, as well as the most soul-quenching "Fuck You" ever delivered to those who want to eradicate masculinity from human culture.

Couldn't have said it better myself. If you lead by example, your kids will respect and love you more, see you and their mother's relationship dynamic as to what a loving partnership is, and learn how to be you which is ideally an alpha male who puts an emphasis on doing what is right and good.

All that being said, we as men should hold each other accountable in being a quality father for no one else, but the children's future,healthy brain chemistry to form quality interpersonal relationships and instilling a foundation of confidence they can build on.

I am an product of a single parent home, but despite being faced with adversity from the start of life. My grandpa is a godsend, I don't what to know what I could have been without his guidence. That being said, my aldolesent years were filled with poor choices, a false sense of self-esteem, struggles in forming relationships with authority figures and an intense competitive nature due to the need to prove something. Gramps gave me an ultimatum, I chose the right route and stuck to my word. Why? Because I respect him in the same way that your kids will respect you when they're at that age.

You're a minority, wear that proud.

edzilla1961 · 2016-11-16T14:18:55+00:00

im not raising my boy to be my caretaker when im old. thats not what fatherhood is. like above said, it is to pass the torch to continue bloodlines, to raise him to be better than me in every way. i dont need his love(i already have it)i need to make sure that he is above all others and makes a life for himself. i pray that i will not ever be a burden to my son. that he earns respect and does not fall in the beta hole i did and lived before coming to the red pill.

rpbanker · 2016-11-17T00:53:33+00:00

I have 2 kids (that I know of), and I love them both. I was worried that I wouldn't, but I loved them right when they were born.

That being said, parenting is the most goddamn irritating job on the planet. It's 90 percent pain and 10 percent pleasure.

Like getting a decent night's sleep? Forget about it. Probably for the rest of your life.

Like having nice things? That's gone too. Your prized possessions are lost, damaged, stolen, or just clogged with filth.

Like having extra money? Don't make me laugh. If you're not spending it on your kids, you're spending it on the mangy animals they convinced you they needed.

As stated, I love my kids and would never give them up, but if a stranger was pulling this crap on me, I'd have choked the life out of him by now.

Forerunner0 · 2016-11-16T12:47:30+00:00

Please have many more, the west needs more children.

Areu4realm8 · 2016-11-16T01:40:48+00:00

Not to sound negative, but having children is something very basic.Even animals do it. I dont see it like something that will change your life and make your life divine. Maybe to the men who never had self esteem, being a parent makes them finally feel complete and important .Wich is wrong.But to a normal person, having children is an addition to their life, not proof of masculinity or alpha. My father was always alpha , even before having me. I didnt change anything. And no matter how wonderful the parent/child relationship is considered by popular culture,i dont care about my dad that much. Parents always love their kids more than their kids love them . Thats why parents sacrifice their life for the kids, but the kids once they grown up dont care about them, and even abandon them in old age. Its the cycle of life. So your big love is not reciprocated by your kid.He will only be interested in own life . Such are the rule of nature. Nothing can give us complete, uncodnditional, eternal love, only ourselves. You dont need a son to tell fuck you to life and its injustice. You only need your own strength to conquer it.

Title	Fatherhood done right, is...
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Date	November 15, 2016 6:29 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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