Just Discovered "Gymcel." Seriously considering giving up.

itsmemaggi · 2022-04-17T18:47:34+00:00

What was so great about "the one that got away"? Defining that may help you let go. There's no ideal woman, and I'm sure that holding on to her and keeping her on a pedestal is only going to limit you, going forward. It sounds like you're way out of HER league, now. Do you know what she looks like now? Likely her SMV is dropping, while yours continues to climb. Look higher.

lieutenantdong · 2022-04-17T20:29:43+00:00

Be aware of the power of language and how it can shape narratives, including in your own mind.

Weaklings have invented the word gymcel to collectively make themselves feel better about those that accomplish things they dare not try.

Women especially have developed superior language skills by necessity as they cant compete with mens physicality. Shame and collective naratives are their weapon. Weak men are jumping on the back of this.

Today there is a real attack and lack of respect for masculinity. There will always be heirachies and people are in denial about that and push for blind inclusion. They shame anything deemed as agression/power and todays language reflects that.

It sounds like you enjoy nice cars, challenging yourself and being a real man. That threatens people as youre climbing above them or make them have to look up to you. Women will come and go for everyone but dont let a stupid word and down on luck change your perspective and doubt yourself. Keep rocking on.

blablaluah · 2022-04-17T18:52:48+00:00

You have done well man. From having social anxiety to now being a lively and confident person. You have also risen through the ranks of socio-economic hierarchy.

You have made yourself into a person who can attract women. Now if the women you attract do not have retention-worthy qualities, you should either reevaluate your standards or keep doing your own thing and wait. Men don't have a biological clock. Also if you are living in the west, finding a suitable partner has become really hard.

Best of luck.

Angry_runt · 2022-04-17T21:03:50+00:00

Gymcel simply means an incel (a guy who can't get laid) who lifts.

If you're attracting women then you're not an incel so you can't be a gymcel either.

dynospectrum7 · 2022-04-17T19:17:23+00:00

“And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.”

Religious texts aside. Dude, you gotta chill. You expect all these things to bring joy to your life when in reality, you enjoy none of them. Maybe try and find some inner peace first.

ahandtoyourdarknessx · 2022-04-17T19:44:39+00:00

Yeah, that’s the thing that happens. When you seek dating advice, especially in blue pill circles, it’s always about self improvement which is good.

Problem is when you self improve you realize just how little women offer and how it takes us so much self improvement to attract someone who brings as much to the table as a child.

I dropped out of high school and couldn’t get girls. Then I go to college and I’m able to attract girls who have a high school diploma. Intellectually I have more in common with college educated women and women who hold graduate degrees, but those girls aren’t interested in me because they want guys at the next level of their careers or academia.

You end up realizing that once you get multiple women and attracting them becomes easy that they are beneath you.

So, have fun with it. If you meet a girl that positively impacts your life, great. If you want to chase randos, great. If you want to do both at the same time, go ahead.

Most girls will look the other way in regards to cheating for years if you can make them orgasm and they feel they need you emotionally

wakawakabrah · 2022-04-17T20:15:44+00:00

I think that if A word's existence causes your entire world view to crumble you have the frame of will smith were he to watch jada fucking his son's friend.

Seriously, start at the very beginning and understand that you didnt understand shit about redpill. Go watch Rian Stone or Rollo Tommassi on youtube and undo the fuck up that is your rp background because you made a covert contract with life and life will happily make you eat shit all day long.

Oh I feel the need to ask. HAVE you actually read the sidebar. Specifically no more mr nice guy(MRP sidebar) ? Or Confessions of a reformed incel(im pretty sure it applies to you)

hikrr · 2022-04-17T21:14:14+00:00

There are tons of words invented by people who are doing worse than who the word is meant to describe. Ex: “confidence” is not a thing. The word was invented by men who don’t have it to describe men they don’t understand. The men they don’t understand simply have and recognize their options. The men who do not have options (rather than implicitly admitting they themselves do not have options) make up a magical power so that not having it remains palatable.

Similarly, words like gymcel are a coping mechanism for women and fat men.

There are tons of words like this. Hell, there are entire college degree programs like this. So watch out for them.

But none of this means you’re magically all that great either. But you’re in a good spot. Keep going.

Ivabighairy1 · 2022-04-17T20:40:32+00:00

Your living a life most would like to live but won’t do the work required to get there. You did the work! Why do you give a fuck all of some label by someone else not doing the work? As for the women, very few high quality women out there. You are living the Red Pill Lifestyle. Celebrate it and find others doing the same.

shittyfuckdick · 2022-04-17T23:03:03+00:00

I’m also a gymcel. On paper I got it all right. Good lifts. 6 figure + income. On general just have my shit together. But I have no friends and get no pussy

Compared to my roommate who barely works, doesn’t lift, plays video games 8 hours a day. Yet he has hundreds of friends and girls throw themselves at him.

I think gymcel is an accurate term for us. We turned to the gym to cope with being a loser, only to find the gym wasn’t the solution.

Guilty-Guava-4229 · 2022-04-17T19:53:37+00:00

Let me tell you, don't try

2022-04-17T20:21:12+00:00

Lemme guess, you're early to mid 20s?

Chill out bro lol, it's only you that is setting expectations and limiting yourself. Give yourself a break.

StarchRunner · 2022-04-17T21:33:34+00:00

Then I fucking see the word "gymcel" scrolling through my instagram memes, and I don't know how to feel about myself, because I think it describes me perfectly.

You can either make others determine your worth or you can do it yourself. Other people will ALWAYS give you the short end of the stick if you let them. That's life and how people are wired.

The "incel" terminology thrown around these days is basically just women 100% confirming the age old RP teaching of preselection although they don't think of it that way.

As far as your old crush, realize you're obsessing over a fantasy. That woman never existed and never was that perfect. I bet if you seen her today and looked at her with a critical eye, she'd look average and meh.

nickcorn16 · 2022-04-18T00:49:13+00:00

Gymcel is a meme popularised on the /fit/ 4chan board. It’s popularly used to denote an incel who decides to start lifting weights, gets jacked but still has autism levels of social game with girls. It’s funny because I think everyone who got into fitness and resistance training from fit or as a way to pave over a bedrock of self esteem issues in early childhood and adolescence has a little part of that archetype they relate with. Like me.

You don’t fit that description obviously, but there is a part of you that relates to that archetype.

And it’s just that, these memes are archetypes. Literally the most extreme form of a persona extrapolated from multiple instances of people with parts of that persona. It’s the internet autist version of a jungian archetype.

Now you may relate to part of that character, and considering your past there is definitely still a latent ‘incel/gymcel’ in you yet. And it’s ready and waiting for the slightest confirmation for you to slide comfortably back into that shell of your former self. Recognise it as such, but move forward anyway.

This voice is trying to help you perversely. Why? Because your ego doesn’t want you to fall down the hole you don’t see, so it comforts you by rationalising why you’re already in the hole.

“You’re still that Gymcel anon. No matter your successes and strides, you’re still that. You will always be alone and have trouble with women.”

It’s a powerful voice because it’s so predictive, and it was probably predictive in the past for you. And now that the slightest evidence of its predictive ability has surfaced you obviously would want to rush back in its arms, lest you don’t predict the fall.

But here’s the thing, it both predicts and creates the fall. The ego protects itself by finding reasons to support you as a Gymcel, and discounts the evidence otherwise. Re-read your post with this in mind and you’ll notice it beginning to happen in your language and the basic premise of your post. You’ll also notice it in your thoughts if you remain observant.

Now that it has evidence that reinforces the fact that you’re a Gymcel you become less confident. Your lack of confidence is contagious. Women are very good, far better than men, at attaining the internal state of others. So then you become worse with women, then you break up a few times or bomb out on a set more often than usual. Now your ego has new ammo. It has past you, a you that tried, and present you that failed, right?

Are you gonna counter that with history? Nah that’s old news. You’re a Gymcel again. Your past successes don’t matter. The ego predicted it, and it happened. Just play vidya, Jack off and lurk r9k for the rest of your days anon. Nothin to fall into there, right?

So what to do now?

Keep moving forward, but now you can notice the feedback loop that your ego wants you back into, and choose only to observe it, and not engage.

But also do some internal work. I can’t prescribe you things to do. As a psych student I am only telling you what came to my mind when I read your post, and the potential mechanism therein.

As someone who has done a fair bit of internal work, I can clue you into the fact that you’re still pedestalising the one that got away. And nothing will compare to the perfect notion of her you have buried in you somewhere. Maybe it’s not even a single women. Maybe it’s an amalgamation of the sort of females you could never have, into a Madonna of sorts. A Madonna with no basis in reality.

But your ego will never be happy because a real female can’t compare to your Madonna. And as a result you will always default to seeing yourself as the lonely Gymcel.

Logical_Finding_3908 · 2022-04-18T01:01:05+00:00

you're lucky you only saw the meme word gymcel and not a complete psychoanalytic breakdown of where every single one of your problems comes from. but i guarantee that girl you're obsessed with does things with guys when she's drunk and lonely that would make you never look her way again

sickoamaya · 2022-04-17T19:21:45+00:00

i don’t know maybe do something you enjoy that never involved women basically do something for yourself.

StarDoom21 · 2022-04-17T19:36:33+00:00

I like that you’ve done this because I have too lol

Call yourself a “living for myself-cel” and be happy, you’ve built a perfect life.

Austin2Leader · 2022-04-17T23:00:43+00:00

Bro, do magic mushrooms once or micro dose acid. Its life changing 🙏
All those conscious puzzles will get solved giving you a different and a new perspective regarding what you going thru in your life.

PirateDocBrown · 2022-04-17T20:41:19+00:00

Gotta lose the oneitis. Keep working out, building hobbies, making yourself interesting, and making money. Leave space for a woman, and they will appear. You just need to pick. Keep your standards very high.

StarDoom21 · 2022-04-17T19:36:37+00:00

I like that you’ve done this because I have too lol

Call yourself a “living for myself-cel” and be happy, you’ve built a perfect life.

fatdonkay337 · 2022-04-18T00:01:12+00:00

Your idea of this person is more than what the actual person is. This is really common so don’t beat yourself up.

Wingflier · 2022-04-18T00:20:11+00:00

I don't want to sound like a broken record, because you hear this kind of advice all the time in this sub but, you sound like you have a scarcity mindset.

You need to have an abundance mindset. You need to know that there are so many beautiful women out there just waiting to fuck an attractive, successful guy like you, you just need to go out there and meet them.

The problem is that, in your mind, you have everything backwards. You believe that you needed the successful job, the confidence and the gym body to make yourself worthy of female attention.

But the truth is that there are tons of men with none of that, in fact there are tons of men who are completely broke losers with no future and nothing going for them that are getting mad pussy.

You need to work on your game. All that other stuff is irrelevant if you're not out there approaching beautiful women on a regular basis.

You also need to figure out how to make a successful dating profile, even if that means going and getting professional photography done so that you have some good pictures. Dating sites are 99% physical appearance, so if your pictures are lackluster you're not going to have any success.

The point is, the things you're doing to attract women and be successful are all wrong. I recommend reading 'Models' by Mark Manson and looking up the dating site guide by killyourinnerloser.

Kodiak01 · 2022-04-18T00:40:57+00:00

In addition to lifting weights I started figure skating (not kidding) which gave me a lot of time surrounded by girls.

For me it was country line dancing. Besides my now-wife, had multiple others very interested. Could of easily ended up with any of a dozen others if I desired.

akahige26 · 2022-04-18T01:24:06+00:00

You've got oneitis. Gymcel doesn't apply to you.

JayyySkywalker · 2022-04-18T04:42:06+00:00

Came a long way for the wrong reasons. this is a self love thing. love yourself King.

Synzael · 2022-04-18T06:25:55+00:00

Lel classic military gymcel buys 600hp car still slower than model 3 / model y performance. Git.good

halflotus2 · 2022-04-18T10:27:58+00:00

What’s your mission/purpose? Cause it kinda sounds like it’s getting the best woman you possibly can. And it definitely shouldn’t be that.

cleverley1986 · 2022-04-18T11:23:44+00:00

You got oneitis. You did all that stuff and some middle school girl still skips around rent free in your mind. All she is, is a familiar time. A chemical in your brain telling you she is essential, perfect. I'm here to tell you, she is JUST as shit as the rest of them. No matter how perfect you try to be, she will still do degrading things with someone she will regret doing them with. "

"But look at what i did...look at my accomplishments..."

You are still just a variation of "the nice guy" trying to win them over. Bleurgh.

TheGillos · 2022-04-18T00:26:16+00:00

Naw, you just need some seasoning. Just keep a focus on finances and fitness, form a strong friend/family group, and keep getting out there. No one is a fucking incel. Put me in the body of a crippled, obese, burn victim and I'll be getting laid within the year.

I compare every woman I see to the girl I was/am still obsessed with and I don't think I can measure up.

I guarantee if you got with that actual woman herself she wouldn't measure up to your imagination. It's kind of like loving a good book then going to see the movie version, it's never the same as what you imagine. Just find a low drama, fun to be around lady, and relax.

But I'm probably a lot more laid back than most on this sub. That's one reason I barely come here any more.

sniper1905 · 2022-04-17T23:20:44+00:00

Hey buddy, there's a series of articles that touches on manosphere topics about this. The guy, his name Chris from Goodlookingloser.com , is also the guy that Derek from MPMD (More Plates More Dates) learned to pick girls up from.

Here is his series.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

If you want to see MPMD interview him or read up on the guys blog.

iamwhoiam101101110 · 2022-04-18T00:17:29+00:00

knew it was a larp as soon as I saw r9k lmao

Protocol_Apollo · 2022-04-17T21:34:53+00:00

Also managed to awkwardly ask this hot chick to prom who said yes (found out the night of she had a boyfriend rip).

So I join the military and get one of the highest paying jobs and a dam of confidence broke in me. After boot camp and ever since then I went from the quiet kid in the back to the loudest (frequently to the point of being obnoxious) in the room. In addition to lifting weights I started figure skating (not kidding) which gave me a lot of time surrounded by girls. My problems with women weren't solved overnight, but slowly I developed more confidence (didn't lose my virginity til age 19). Now I have no problem approaching women (at work, out of work, at bars, etc) and whenever I go out with friends I make it personal mission to talk to more girls than everyone else.

The problem is, I've had 4 girlfriends in the last 5 years,

How can one be a gymcel given this?

“As long as a ship doesn’t let the water in, not even the vastest ocean can sink it.”

Don’t let the water in.

filli1aj · 2022-04-17T22:11:20+00:00

I don’t know if it’s just a coming of age thing but, as a man going to be 30 soon, from a mental point of view I am not concerned if I never got laid again for the rest of my life.

The irony? Since I started thinking this way it’s never been easier. I’ll be honest I don’t know how to teach this. Best I can do is describe it. Rollo calls it the mental point of origin. Other people call it frame. If nothing else, just know that this state of mind exists and that if it’s possible for us it’s possible for you too.

As for how to get to this state of mind, I unfortunately cannot say. You say you like running so, maybe train for your own personal Mount Everest. Try to qualify and run in the Boston marathon. I bet if you did that you would be your own mental point of origin.

Lasers_Pew_Pew_Pew · 2022-04-17T22:43:38+00:00

Mate you sound like you’re doing pretty fucking great. Don’t worry why you did it, everything you’ve done has been good for you.

Everyone girls and guys do shit for the opposite sex when they’re younger. It’s all part of growing up.

Now connect more with yourself, and learn to do things more for just you.

NightwingTRP · 2022-04-17T23:23:46+00:00

wtf is a gymcel?

Flat_Doughnut · 2022-04-17T23:44:32+00:00

Stop being a little bitch, you give up when you’re dead, better a gymcel than an incel loser

TheBigAnon12 · 2022-04-17T23:47:04+00:00

I compare every woman I see to the girl I was/am still obsessed with

You will for awhile, maybe even forever if you can't move past it. It is completely normal to compare girls. If it is still debilitating, I'd recommend psychosis from a professional.

QuakeGuy98 · 2022-04-18T00:32:07+00:00

So improving yourself/making yourself happy at the gym is bad now??? Lord have mercy we need to wake full war on simps, feminists & weakling liberals alike. If finding a healthy way to cope with your issues is a bad thing to now who knows what BS they'll say next.

"Going to the hospital when you're ill is sexist..."

Yeah okay mf

Don't listen to those retards, dawg. You've done fine in your life and don't let them boot licking pussies stop you.

Gymcel pfffft! Next thing we'll see is anyone who goes to therapy offending them now.

DS_1900 · 2022-04-18T02:25:51+00:00

Sounds like you’re doing ok bro

Big_Neecee · 2022-04-18T02:45:09+00:00

Fake and Paid Post for propaganda quota purposes.

red_blood_cells · 2022-04-18T03:17:02+00:00

Man the world has gotten so bad that people are calling gym beginners "gym cels" ?

Man lemme tell you, for every one guy in the gym, theres 4 that SHOULD BE THERE but aren't due to dopamine addiction or blue pill mentality.

Don't let anyone associate the gym, which honestly has probably done more good in the world than most religious places of worship, with incels or anything bad.

new__vision · 2022-04-18T04:11:07+00:00

The only thing holding you back is your self-image. Why would you give up when you're ahead? Change the way you think about yourself.

I've had 4 girlfriends in the last 5 years

So you're not a gymcel.

zino193 · 2022-04-18T04:47:20+00:00

I think you still think there's a higher "connection"

The mom-wifey does not exist, at least not off the shelf. THe idealized babe with the kindness of a childhood friend and the love of a mother you see in Anime is not real. It's a idealized concept. The love you don't have to work for, accesible to the everyman, but not anyone, just you, the proto-kun.

The tragedy of r9k is that they fail to realize they aren't outliers, they are the standard. It's a hugbox made for average kids to feel special and different. It's not. You aren't. And that's ok. Just have fun, enjoy life and slay bitches. That's good enough to have a fullfilling life.

Satcitananda90 · 2022-04-18T07:36:39+00:00

So what? I do not understand. Anyway its well know girls do not care much about muscles.

quantainium_pasta · 2022-04-18T08:07:56+00:00

You are on a GREAT trajectory, dude. A lot of us, myself included, lacked social skills coming right out of high school. That's normal, happens to a ton of people for various reasons.

It doesn't matter in the slightest, either. What matters is your trajectory: are you doing something about it, or are you curling up into a little ball and hiding away from the world?

You are clearly in the former category. Which is awesome.

Forget the high school crush. Let her go. And then embrace abundance mentality. High school is the small pond, and now you are in the ocean, a bad ass young shark. There are plenty of women out there who are head and shoulders higher quality than the girl you pined over as a kid.

So keep doing what you're doing, dude. Keep lifting. Keep improving yourself in any area that interest you. Wrap that willly and go to town on the ladies. Eventually you'll find out what you really want in a woman, and you can hunt for that. But it's a long numbers game, and you're not going to find it right away.

Make sure to have fun until you do though.

SeasonedRP · 2022-04-18T12:43:28+00:00

Some variation of gymcel has been around forever. They used to say lifting weights was for homosexuals, or to compensate for small endowment, and probably other things too. Guys who do it are jealous and it's a shit test when girls do. When I was young, two sorority girls did that shit test with me, and I had a threesome with them later that night after they both sucked me off in the car. The threesome happened while one of their boyfriends was passed out in another room. So don't worry about it. Handle it like you would any other shit test.

pebblefromwell · 2022-04-18T13:29:24+00:00

Skill: n. the ability to do something well.

You don't do something well until you have both practiced it and failed at it.

Raging_Dragon_9999 · 2022-04-18T15:01:18+00:00

You need to find better quality girls - the quality of women you want are NOT in the bars. Go do ballroom dancing or something.

Have you considered therapy for why you can't get over this girl from middle school? This is seriously putting her on a pedastal. There's always coulda-woulda-shouldas. There's always some babe who was totally into you that you just missed the signs for whatever reason.

Start looking forward and stop looking back.

Title	Just Discovered "Gymcel." Seriously considering giving up.
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Date	April 17, 2022 6:24 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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