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[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 57 points58 points59 points 11 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
Great post. I would add:
Public speaking - learn to read and hold the attention of a crowd, how to speak simply, slowly, and effectively, how to project your voice, and how to transfer your knowledge and energy to the masses.
Sales - learn how people tick, what their motivations are, how to get past their "LMR", how to incentivize them to take action, conquer your own social timidness, learn to be ruthless. Much of your life is influenced by your sales skills.
Fighting - learn to size up an opponent/situation, know how random a real fight can be, learn to submit another grown man, know the feeling of being submitted over and over, learn to be explosive but controlled, and realize your own limits. "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth." -Mike Tyson
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[–]theproudbanana 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Aikido/Kendo would fit the list perfectly.
[–]DeputyDelicious3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link
I'm a bjj guy and in college there were basically two college martial arts clubs that actually had members.
BJJ
Aikido
Guess which one had women and betas and frailness and said everyone was equal and what not. I may just have had many a bad experience with Aikido, but from what I can tell it's legitimately useless in terms of practicality.
Then again competition Jiu Jitsu isn't as transferable to realworld fighting as many would have you believe. Gyms that stick to the foundations of BJJ however and don't try to participate in tournaments...extremely practical.
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - Learn how to be calm when calm is needed and how to explode with speed and strength when needed. Learn how to go with the flow. Learning that the most dangerous thing you can do is also sometimes the only way out of guaranteed loss. Learn that the best solution is legitimately to not put yourself in the most dangerous position in the first place. Never turn away.
[–]LuvBeer 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of the reasons I like BJJ is specifically because there are almost no girls. It's not as transferrable to real world fights as MMA is, but I prefer not to be missing teeth when I go to work.
[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I studied aikido for about 15 years. I promise you it isn't useless but most people see it as such from its demonstrations. I have made a lot of people cry from using it on them. I think the problem with it is that it tries to teach people to fight without striking and it takes years and years to master where punching someone in the face will end a conflict in less than a second and takes a lot less time to get good at.
One thing that I do love about aikido is how it teaches body mechanics. I can move a man who is much larger than me and to everyone around me it seems effortless. I have had people grab me and try to grab and threaten me and I dominate and humiliate them.
The women and equal part though you are spot on. I trained with women who never got it and they had been there for years. I hated practicing with them because they never had anything to offer and only slowed practice down. I have also seen a ton of women in different martials arts though too and bjj is no different in that. I think that women should stick to knitting or whatever because training in martial arts gives them a false sense of confidence that gets shattered the moment a real conflict arises.
[–]theproudbanana 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should make a post about Aikido applied in Real life. I do BJJ and muay thai, because in my city Aikido and Kendo are fake. This faking a martial art happens a lot, I dont know if it happens that much in you country.I think Aikido or Kendo as a life style its better, you have to know yourself and the other guy.
[–]Movonnow 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
from what I can tell it's legitimately useless in terms of practicality.
It is not. But you have to study for like 20 years to use it effectively.
[–]DeputyDelicious2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link
But you have to study for like 20 years to use it effectively.
so then it's legitimately useless in terms of practicality. Why learn a martial art that takes 20 years to have any usefulness outside of the dojo when other art forms are just as-if not more powerful and take less time to learn effectively.
[–]Movonnow 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Depends.
Against the average joe, you can defend yourself effectively after a few years of practice.
Against a skilled boxer, you will not stand a chance unless you train for 20 years.
Anyone who train in Aïkido will get a deeper understanding of how joints work and on how to use one's articulations to defeat someone. I've talked to many martial artist who agreed on this point. But of course, when you are on a ring with boxing gloves, you can not use any of that. But in real life, it's another story.
And anyway, you get more from the training than the sole ability to defeat an opponant. One can not say it's useless, even in terms of practicality because the other things you get from it can be used practicaly. But that's a deeper subject.
To put it in a nutshell, yes, if you want to learn how to beat someone's ass, you better choose boxing, mma, krav maga or something else.
[–]Dokkobro 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Muay Thai is hands down the best option for self defense against multiple opponents. That or knowing and being skilled with a blade like a karambit or khukri. BJJ is a badass art form and is an intense physical chess match, but if one guys fighting three dudes and he roles on the ground with one, he's getting ripped apart by the other two. In my life the only time I've seen someone make it out of a 1 on 4 or 1 on 5 situation is when they utilize knees to the head and elbows to the jaw in rapid succession while staying at striking distance. Plus it's fucking fun as shit to practice those kicks and spinning backfists.
[–]IDefyAxioms5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Muay Thai is definitely intense. But I wouldn't say that it is the most effective option. Krav Maga does a great job at taking the best parts from several places (Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, etc.) and then editing the form to put a huge emphasis on body articulation to be as quick and effective as possible. If you ever watch an experienced Kravist, they are swift as fuck - it is impressive what they're able to do. As you advance it become increasingly necessary to take on multiple opponents (up to 8, typically), as well as being well-versed in weapon defense (knife, gun, stick), and karambit usage.
[–]Dokkobro 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of all the styles I've seen this is possibly the most fluid and quickest method of preserving your balls for people to pick up. This is in active use by the Filipino Marines, who are baaaad SOBs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QegszOQkmnw
[–]cascadecombo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are far too many arts to claim a single one as the best. Not to mention the different factors as to where they are.
I'm inclined to say Judo is amazing for multiple opponents, nothing works better for turning 3v1 into 1v1 than throwing one at another and having the guys feet smack the other guy silly.
[–]Movonnow -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
One of my ex-girlfriend (when I still did the mistake of being monogamous) destroyed 3 guys who were trying to steal our money. She was practicing Karate and I must say it was strange to see my girlfriend's hands bloody. My point of view is everyone should choose a martial art that fits them. I met some Muay Thai boxers and I immediately understood it was not for me when I saw their training. They are bad ass but that's not the form of combat system that fits my mentality and personnality so it would be less efficient for me than kung-fu (even though, on average, Muay Thai is more effective than Kung-fu, I can defend myself better with Kung-fu).
There's a master down in Austin, TX (forgot his damn name, I'll edit in a bit) that came over from Asia a few years back that my friend trains with. I'm 6'1" 250 and have been fighting/wrestling everyone who's down my entire life. My 5'8" 185 best buddy flipped me so hard when I put him in a standing half Nelson (orchestrated) that we cracked a wall in the house. King Fu is so freaking cool to me man, haven't been surprised like that since I was introduced (rather roughly) to judo, when I was at 300 lbs. Thhaaaaattttt hurt. Concrete is zero fun for big guys.
[–]TimeHo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When i was younger i knew a girl who took wing chun and destroyed a guy who was getting too aggressive. That was a sight to see.
Aikido, but from what I can tell it's legitimately useless in terms of practicality.
Just as with any martial art, it is as useful as its practitioner is strong. Wrestling can teach someone to hold another guy down in embarrassing poses but if he doesn't have the strength to execute the moves then it looks worthless, the same goes for aikido.
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[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Aikido. Learn to guide and lead someone. A lot of aikido is about small changes that redirect your opponent without it looking like it would. A lot of people see this and don't know what is happening and call it fake. They get amazed when they see it in person The same can be related to game a bit. When a nice guy sees that you being dominant and leading and having it be effective they think its some kind of trick.
Bjj is a lot more control and planning ahead like chess. You push or lead them into making a mistake, take advantage of the opening and dominate them. Another wonderful aspect of it is making someone submit to you. You are in charge and the other person must submit to your will. You aren't the harsh destroyer but the kind master. You push and guide them to the point where submitting to you will is the only option.
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[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
LOL im glad I could give strange guys wood on the internet... haha
It is also a relly good way to practice some dominance in the bedroom.
[–]RICCIedm 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
wow, mixing BJJ and sexual thoughts is definitelly not a good idea
http://www.cagetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ufc-gay-wanderlei.jpg
[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmm... rear naked choke... nope.
[–]Movonnow 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aïkido Learn to break the cycle of violence by defeating your ennemy without harming him. Finding the good distance, adapting to an incoming force and using it to your advantage.
I've only practiced Aïkido for a few years so I can't really do it justice but if you get nothing better, it will be better than nothing.
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[–]Moldy_Gecko 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But but... steven segall does it.... oh...
[–]200mgtestc 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sales should be top 5.
Money-wise, it's the most valuable skill you'll have in your life.
[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stickied - this thread didn't get anywhere near enough attention.
[–]TW_RPAwake 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is gold; I just sent it to the printer and will pin it on my wall at work.
[–]1jb_trp 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Rock climbing Strength. Focus. Stoicism in the face of danger. Leadership.
[–]Air4ce1 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I play basketball extensively and just like anything you practice and do a lot, over time you stop "playing" and you start "understanding" the game. Anyone who has played at a collegiate level will understand the transference of mindset, but i digress.
One of the lessons that I applied from basketball into my life is as a point guard you don't have to force anything. The more you force in basketball the more resistance you meet. The more resistance you meet the more bad decisions you make, turnovers you get, and confidence the opponent gets. I started applying this to my life in high school because something was "off". I stopped trying to force having and girlfriend, stopped trying to force having friends and just started playing the game. I started to learn that there is a difference in "making things happen" and " forcing things to happen". One was out of frustration and the other had a larger picture.
Another thing that I started to see was how to make things happen and this is an analogy to TRP. When I was younger I would score (in basketball) and not necessarily know why it worked, just that it worked. I would continue to do these things and continue scoring and I was perfectly content. When my game started to mature I was taught (analogy to a mentor/trp) why what I was doing was working. How my first step was making the defender waste a step on defense blah blah blah. This allowed to recognize why things worked and allowed me to use it to my advantage. It elevated my game and it's the same concept in TRP.
We are given the tools to see how/why certain things work and how our "defender" acts/reacts. What we do with them allows us to elevate our game/life.
[–]ImBloodyAnnoyed1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Don't force things.
In Taoism this is (very vaguely) known as Wei-wu. Complex to grasp but useful.
[–]Joshbroncos11 points 11 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
sidebar material right here
[–]TeflonDon3000 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, too often in TRP the underlying message of self-improvement and skill transferability is lost in the chaff of relationship help.
It is equally important to know how your individual skills can contribute to the greater benefit of your life. Self-development, while harped on often, does have this foo foo connotation. It seems most RPers are willing to accept it as a benefit, but not as an absolute necessity.
Adding this post to the sidebar will enlighten and create a dogmatic fervor around self-imporvement, giving it the necessary reasons as to why it is important to develop a skill set you can be proud of.
Excellent post u/mission1st
[–]1beerthroway 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think it should be seen as a two way street.
Yes, TRP relationship advice helps you in all areas of your life. But more so, if you have a solid understanding of the reality around you, relationships fall into place.
Therefore, it's more effective to work on your life as a whole (so sayeth the Pook) and let the relationships fall where they may, rather than working on your relationships and if something happens to carry into your life then call it a side benefit.
[–]soccerplusaviation 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sports In General - Tactics, Athleticism, Mind over Matter, Teamwork, Awareness, Sizing up individuals and team as a whole
I love soccer. I used to be the gritty, super athletic, unlimited stamina type of player. Then I read a few articles on soccer tactics. My view of the game changed. For example http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/02/25-johan-cruyff-quotes.html/ I realized that soccer and sports in general is a game of making the right choices. You can be the most technically gifted, athletic player on the pitch, but if you can't make the right choices, your useless.
Also this post is sidebar material.
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[–]soccerplusaviation 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate that. And if you start the game that way, the bad decisions multiply because morale goes down.
[–]Nantafiria 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's been hijacked by the new age crowd, swindlers and people with odd beliefs, but I read cards every few days. When you ignore people who insist on magic, divination and other such nonsense, what remains is a skill that requires good insight in symbology, a strong understanding of patterns the concentration needed to add together various meanings into a whole, and the skill of relaying complex information into language that actually makes sense. As long as you keep a clear mind and don't put any kind of mystical stock in it, it's a very good skill to know.
[–]RedditArgument 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Competitive team games, whether football, paintball, battlefield, or hockey these can all build what I feel is an incredibly valuable trait/skill: LEADERSHIP
I feel it is perhaps one of the, if not THE most important alpha trait and can be applied in too many facets of life to count.
[–]SeekingTheWay 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Geocaching + Real Time Stragegy = Ingress
Also, music! Music is awesome. Play an instrument, or sing in a choir. I have my best life experiences from such social groups.
[–]TruckerJohn 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree that sometimes some people/threads in this sub get a bit too focused on the specifics of game and sexual strategy (and there's certainly a place for that here, I'm not saying otherwise). But I like this post because it's a reminder that the goal of the descriptive knowledge and tools in this sub are not for the END GOAL of being an "alpha" or fucking a bunch of plates. For me, the added knowledge of power dynamics and self-sufficiency are for the goal of becoming the best version of myself.
I liken it to: Being really good at football is not the only way that being physically healthy manifests, and being good at football doesn't even necessarily mean you are at peak physical health. On this sub being a plate-spinner is a sign that you understand confidence and social dynamics, but when it becomes the explicit goal, this becomes really unfulfilling. Another example: My ultimate purpose is to leave my artistic and philosophical mark on the world (I'm a comedian) and live a life worth reliving - but to navigate that I need to learn some essential skills. I learn how to use tools, how cars work, how to fix computers etc. as practical skills. "Being an alpha" in the sexual marketplace is about as useful to any of us as learning how to fix a computer. Sometimes you just gotta bust a nut, or know how to work your way up a social ladder t obtain a more important and fulfilling goal. I would never want to be a person who actually is satisfied MERELY with a high SMV, MERELY by being an alpha, and MERELY by having the spoils of being an alpha. Being an alpha is a tool and possible starting point for us to manifest our potential.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"Chess
Think ten steps ahead. Know what your opponent’s next move is. Know and use tactics.
I believe Skorch gave a beautiful analogy of relationships as chess matches. If she can beat you, she’s done with you. No chance for a rematch. If you cannot be beat, she will always want another shot at the king." .
Women's Game is Charm.
Man's Game is Amused Mastery.
. ...and the game will end if the Woman loses respect and views the Man as horribly Beta. The game will also end if the Man gets bored. Charm in Women keep the Men in the game.
LTR cannot survive for long without the Charm / Amused Mastery dynamic.
It's just so very clear things must be like this.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amused Mastery is in the sidebar.
Charm is just female Game.
I saw this website recently. It seems to have some simple ideas about basic Charm:
http://wikihow.com/Be-Charming
American Women simply lack these skills. Feminism killed Charm.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Rowing Learn the ultimate in full body athletics. Use every muscle from your fingers to your toes in every motion. Move with extreme strength and subtle grace all in the same stroke.
Ego will fuck you up on the water. The more you try to control the blades and the boat, the harder you'll splash and the slower you'll go. Rowing teaches that you can put all your strength against the current and still get nowhere if you're expending energy improperly.
It's taught me that mastery means expending less energy on unnecessary motions. Beginners will hammer away at the water with all their strength in every direction. They'll rock the boat, check the acceleration (slowing the boat to a stop by moving to quickly forward after the drive), tear their hands up by gripping too tightly, and tip the boat over.
Only when you reach the point of full exhaustion where you can barely think, do you finally start to "listen" to the boat and the water with your body. You'll feel how it accelerates, what slows you down, what movements are too exaggerated and which ones aren't exaggerated enough.
It's the ultimate in "learn by doing" because it's more "learn by becoming." If you don't become a part of the shell and the blades and the water, you will forever be this obstacle in the middle of it all. Once your ego falls away, everything becomes the same and you develop what they call "swing" which is the perfect form and harmony of catch, drive, and recovery.
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Judging from your mindset, I strongly recommend Young Men and Fire, the fateful story of a group of early smokejumpers who died to a blowup fire in Montana.
It's an exhaustive research account that takes into account all the energy factors of the situation from the way the fire was fed through wind, fuel, brush (grass as opposed to canopy) and the more dramatic energy factor of the boys who ran hundreds of yards up a near vertical incline in what they knew would be the last footrace of their lives. He talks about which ones went which ways, why they veered and what places they chose for refuge, and then tries in the most humane way possible to explain why the few lived and the rest died.
[–]68461674897051454980 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
the way i think about it is this: whatever i'm doing, programming, work, video games, dating, fucking, etc. I'm going to be the best and do whatever i'm doing the best possible way. how ever i'm doing the thing now, i'll figure out ways to constantly improve
if its a program, i'll stay up and keep writing it until it's done properly. no shitty code, no small bugs i just hope don't pop up, do it properly as long as it's time effective.
if its multiplayer games, i'm going to play that specific game for hours at a time. it stops being fun pretty quick, but im not there to have fun. im there to beat other people, thats where the fun comes from.
if its fucking, i'll fuck her harder and longer than people before (if its a relationship, not a onenight thing). its the same as a multiplayer game in my mind, its not really all that fun at the time. id rather blow my load and be done, but ill slow down, eat her out, shove my dick in her mouth, whatever to make it last longer and get a higher score on her.
if its dating, we know what works just from reading stuff on here. apply it properly, apply it with a plan, and follow what you KNOW works and doesn't work. yes, it may feel good when you're feeling down to just chill with a gf and share all your problems, but then you think on what you know, and you know that ends badly for you.
i think the only real characteristics you need are determination and drive to be the best, some planning and forethought so you're not having wasted energy or wasting time, and self-awareness so you can tell if what you are doing is working or not, and how you should adapt. add in the problem solving skills we all pick up from the problems we're exposed to and solve on a daily basis, and i think you can pretty much do whatever you want. i've noticed the same traits in other successful people i've become friends with, but some don't apply it to all areas of their life, which i think is a waste of talent.
[–]soccerplusaviation 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally, use this to answer questions on interviews and cover letters.
[–]qwertyleftme 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Only invest in winning options."
There is always a level of uncertainty that one has to deal with. How do you decide what the winning options are short term vs long term?
[–]wheyapartment 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Man..
I've been meditating for 11 months now and I still haven't noticed any of the presence, mindfulness, etc. benefits that I'm supposed to gain from doing it. I can't help but feel that it's over-exaggerated by hippies, "new age thinkers", and newcomers who are overly optimistic and yet to endure the discipline behind it
I just do it because it helps me relax before sleeping and I feel guilty if I don't do it
[–]gabilromariz 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try downloading calm.com for your phone. They have a 7 day introduction that'll teach you all that concentration and patience in leighman terms and without being overly new-age-y
Give it a try
[–]BlushofLondon 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You've picked up on meditation's main highlight: it's a painkiller/parasympathetic calming agent, as effective as moprhine.
If feeling calm isn't enough of a draw, but you still desire sharper attention, there are more proactive and pleasurable ways to cultivate that. As hinted at in the OP, reading fiction elucidates capacity for empathy, while demanding rapt attention.
If you don't think any benefits are coming to fruit, there is no shame in only meditating on the occasion that there's ants under your skin you want to brush off, and only then. That's what I do.
[–]Movonnow -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's either because you picked up a bullshit meditation exercise or because you do it wrong.
Or you are an alien.
[–]iamkarnath 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Add "Spend time with a reputable psychotherapist: At least a year"
This is a great list for guys seeking to (re)program themselves into an efficient person. However, without dealing with those blindspots, you're going to be constantly undermining yourself.
[–]iamkarnath 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Emotions: I had no idea what I was feeling or even that I WAS feeling something. Therefore, they came out "sideways" (Classic passive-aggressive.) Doing psycho-drama and "shadow work" allowed me to learn to feel AND express my emotions. I find the Jungian model to be flexible and helpful.
[–]parrrot_ 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Real-time strategy games Competition. Efficiency. Continuous improvement. Rapid learning through failure. Time is limited and doesn’t stop. The competition is trying to crush you to get what they want. You have more or less the same resources and same starting position. Learn the game quick, play early and often to get better, and kick their ass.
Real-time strategy games Competition. Efficiency. Continuous improvement. Rapid learning through failure.
Time is limited and doesn’t stop. The competition is trying to crush you to get what they want. You have more or less the same resources and same starting position. Learn the game quick, play early and often to get better, and kick their ass.
As someone who used to play Starcraft 2: The opponent might play a different race and has different options/strategies available, but you need to know how to beat every single one of them. It is never the game's fault that you lose. Some strategies might be cheap, but it is still on you for not identifying it in time and reacting accordingly. You cannot win every time, sometimes the opponent is just better, or you made a mistake - queue up for another game and keep it in mind, don't lose to the same thing again (or if you do keep losing to the same thing, stop playing for a bit and study it in depth.)
[–]Black-Pill 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think this post touches on the true depth of deep long term game and frame. There are many quick and easy ways to up your SMV that can get you laid but if you are truly committed to self improvement and establishing yourself in a way that will carry and support you for decades to come then you need to integrate the OP's ideas plus many more (craftsmanship: making useful and beautiful things; as an example ) to become a complete human being who does not need a woman or any other person to feel complete.
[–]Black-Pill 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
That is truly some cool old school mastery/masculinity.
[–]Paint_It_R3d 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great post, thanks for doing this. It really demonstrates no matter what you do, you can apply your frame to be the best you can and always strive to rise to the next level. I got into custom PC building/modifying recently and can't stress working with your hands on a physical craft enough, it feels amazing to design and create something for yourself.
A few of mine:
Geocaching Exploration. Problem solving. Creativity. Perseverance. Predicting thought patterns.
Caching is interesting in that it can add a secondary task to almost any trip and can give a purpose to an otherwise meaningful excursion. Discovering a secret world around opens you up to other people's thought patterns and processes.
MOBAs (DOTA2, LoL) Teamwork. Endurance. Communication. Constant improvement. Strategy. Executing under pressure. Loss.
In the same vain as Real Time Strategies listed by OP, Moba style games will force one to work with others to succeed. 5v5 team fights are chaotic but if you keep focus and work as a team crushing opponents is highly rewarding. You're also forced to develop a thick skin and zone out bitchy teammates, a useful skill in the internet world. Losing is a guarantee and offers a chance for self evaluation.
[–]Movonnow 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Martial arts.
Enough said.
Truth is, it depends on everyone.
For instance, when I stepped into my first kung-fu class, the teacher said I was not a man. That was true. I was a pussy affraid of being punched, that would be embarrassed by any critic. My teacher proceeded to punch me, class after class. He never hurt me and I soon began to be less afraid of fighting which now enables me to hold frame better, to assert myself. This is only an example.
Martial art enables you to go on a discovery of yourself and to become more of a man. Those qualities you quote belong to the man you will become thanks to your training.
[–]Noolaw 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
In the investing part maybe you could add
Trading - gives you nerves of steel, teaches you how to handle risk, manage money, decisiveness, and to be a "master of your emotions". Ex stockbroker turned trader.
[–]Styx_2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I know very little about the financial sector and the possible career paths. What is the difference between a stockbroker and a trader?
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A stock broker picks up the phone and acts as an middleman to help the client make a decision whether to buy or sell a stock and makes a commission off the transaction so we take no risk. A trader is an individual person who speculates on the share price movement based on whatever criteria they have set in place to profit from whatever their hypothesis is and they take full risk from their actions. Brokers make money whether the trader loses money or not.
Being a broker is not easy either because if your advice makes the client lose money they leave and you have to reach commission targets....sometimes that means you have to trade with your own account.
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Programming Understand algorithms. Understand patterns. Understand best practices. Utilize requirements and acceptance criteria. Always keep learning what’s new. Every year a new language, framework, library, tool, or methodology changes everything. Always be learning the latest as it emerges because old ways will change as the landscape demands it. Don't get left behind.
Seems great, but if you really want to learn programming, it will take you a lot of time. And if you don't work as a programmer, knowledge of Java or C will help you very little.
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