Women can't take feedback

p3ndulum · 2015-07-04T10:50:05+00:00

The one that I live with likes to say "you're not allowed to talk to me anymore" whenever you tell her something she doesn't like.

Many women think they are above being disagreed with or criticized because of the princess complex.

When you grow up being told that you're pretty, even when you're not, or that it "wasn't your fault", even when it was, or always having white knights stick up for you even when you should be open-hand slapped across the mouth, you probably can't even fathom what being able to take constructive criticism might feel like.

Imagine, then, the levels of narcissistic entitlement you get when you hand out participation ribbons to everybody, institutionalize feminism, demonize and medicate all of the boys, and launch campaigns to reclassify anything a man has to say as "mansplaining". Imagine how thin your skin would be.

BurgundyCarpet · 2015-07-04T14:18:58+00:00

Male thought: "There is no failure, only feedback."

Female thought: "There is no feedback, only threats to my emotionz."

grubek · 2015-07-04T10:23:58+00:00

Men are less bound to hierarchy than women. A man can take a hint from a subordinate easier than a woman. She probably felt you both had not enough status to tell her anything hence the constant fighting of your suggestions. She was not gauging your answers she was feeling attacked that two low value (professionally) guys were telling her shit. In her mind getting advice from someone with higher professional status makes sense and probably helped because she was willing to listen as she felt beneath him.

It sounds bananas for a guy, it does for me, but it probably makes all the sense in her mind.

dr_warlock · 2015-07-04T17:17:04+00:00

As /u/CisWhiteMaelstrom beautifully put it here, women are intrinsically valuable, but that very trait makes them replaceable. Any other woman can be used to make babies and do assistant tasks for men.

What you are witnessing is a woman's fear of ostricization. To prevent this, she'll feign a smile with everyone she meets, apollogize more than necessary, 'play nice' as to not cause any trouble because she is very replaceable. When 'trouble' to her image occurs, her first reaction is to deflect responsibility. When an unnecessary, replaceable member starts causing problems, and looked upon in a logical light, that member is subject to eviction. This is her ultimate fear. Women are not built to take care of themselves, especially when pregnant. This 'play nice' and deflection of responsibility is an attempt to make herself look valuable to the tribe at all times despite evidence to the contrary. But to do that, logic doesn't help her cause at all, so she'll use shaming tactics and cry to provoke your primal sympathetic tendencies for women, to put her on a pedestal, make you perceive her as more valuable than she really is.

markyLEpirate · 2015-07-04T16:43:22+00:00

Yeah tell my girlfriend something about her driving and she takes it up the ass. I stopped letting her drive because I actually fear for my life when she drives

Trpdoc · 2015-07-04T17:49:28+00:00

As a physician who just finished residency (finally. 5 years) I can vouch for this. It's a sad state of affairs now in the medical community that is coming up. So many losers and betas in medicine, I mean you have to be to get through that much schooling and be blind that the finances only work out for very few specialists. The girls tho, I've seen at least 50% of the chicks in my classes crying at some point and it generally involves when they are getting feedback.

slimcoat · 2015-07-04T18:31:02+00:00

One of the follow-up Kitchen Nightmares episodes gives a lot of insight, too:

Ramsay: You don't have any men chefs? Why is that?

Spawn of Satan: I don't like to bump into men. I'm only comfortable working with girls because the kitchen is so tiny...the males chefs, their ego is too big, and so they leave, I show them the door. And they don't have my standards, so they're doing me a favor. I work meticulously because my customers deserve it.

No, you wanted to fill your kitchen with a bunch of people who are too timid to call you into question.

This woman probably doesn't call herself a feminist but she's indistinguishable from them. Nothing can sate her lust for power and destruction.

R_E_D_1 · 2015-07-04T16:59:50+00:00

I thought you were gonna post the video where some chick tried to slap him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDW6xo5scU

Ramsey is awesome at maintaining frame in this situation even after that daffy broad tried to assault him.

kingnutter · 2015-07-04T17:47:23+00:00

My soon-to-be-ex wife would always say "Do you want to have an argument?" when criticised. Originally this would put an end to it. It was only when I found the red pill that I responded with "No, but that doesn't make you right"

herewehoagain · 2015-07-04T15:54:04+00:00

It always sends me into a fucking rage when I witness this. Especially when they ask for feedback. Bitch if you want me to stroke your ego you can go fuck yourself.

Dr_Red_97 · 2015-07-04T17:40:01+00:00

Hahahaha, Amy's Baking Company! That shithole's like 15 minutes from my house. If I wasn't so busy, I'd probably go there sometime just to troll the shit out of psycho Miss Catlady and the greek Oompa Loompa

VasiliyZaitzev · 2015-07-04T12:05:41+00:00

Women shouldn't be doctors anyway. Not that there are not those who are smart enough, etc., but when you look at the costs to society of educating doctors and then how many women leave practice or return only part-time after kids, it's not particularly worth it.

Women suck at taking criticism, and they can never be "wrong" or "at fault" which is what happened in your example. The Hamster will find a way to ham its way out of it.

evileddy · 2015-07-04T19:51:52+00:00

They do the same thing online but less transparent.

Woman: "The pay gap must be stopped! women making 77 cents for every dollar man gets is horrible!!"

Me: "That's a myth.. here's why posts links to videos and studies"

Woman: "OMG Nobody asked you! What's your problem you loser.. stop posting here!"

lol

For me personally.. when I start a job I look my boss in the eye and say "At any time if I mess up or you think I could improve.. tell me right away.. I will be HAPPY that you take time to help me improve"

I mess up occasionally, hell I'm human, I may not realize I have and my boss telling me that isn't a stab at my personality.. he just wants competent workers like I would in his position. Most times after he points something out I missed we start laughing about it and I fix it with a smile on my face.

Easy!

Why do most women feel that you have basically killed their kitten in front of them when you point out they fucked up? It really is FEELZ > REELZ

greyenlightenment · 2015-07-04T13:04:49+00:00

it's easier to take a enema than take feedback

oldredder · 2015-07-05T08:55:20+00:00

Some women can handle it - those who are intellectual and skilled. They are few but they exist. If they were raised right, by a strict but loving father to push down those emotions and deal with the truth and the job to be done, even little girls cleaning up their toys at age 2 or 3, it becomes a new life instinct.

Bad women today are the product of missing fathers 20 years ago.

laughkisskill · 2015-07-04T19:27:02+00:00

That's shocking. The second Ramsay video I've ever watched, shocking. How can that cook "Amy" be so obtuse and controlling? How are they in business, outright subterfuge? How can she argue with someone internationally recognized for their skill set, who is TRYING to HELP!

Dear God. Thank you op I think i'll be watching him again soon.

On the flip side, I've employed and worked with plenty of women, they take criticism well, we have biweekly releases, one complaint, it's fixed by the off week.

I've never had an issue even close to this in a relationship. Holy freaking crap, I can't blame you, but Damn. Date better girls!

NidStyles · 2015-07-04T10:21:39+00:00

I think the CC voids their sense of empathy due to it's reinforcement of their innate sense of worth through "cock validation", which artificially numbs their ability to 'give a damn' for anyone else...

I say this as I think honestly that sex is merely another form of validation for women. Which is why it distorts them so much when they have it in excess or in deranged forms.

reigorius · 2015-07-04T20:39:35+00:00

Holy fucking hell. Who in his right mind marry that?? I mean, something that vicious and totally out of touch with reality is bound to attract the same kind.

With that said...a sudden realization: all those horrible stories we read here, how many of the OP's actually have the bravery to look at themselves and own their part? She must be either extremely skilled in hiding here evil demeanor or the guy just never learns to put up boundaries and guard them. Or either you are just like them.

Also, no fucking wonder that restaurant needs a Gordon Ramsy intervention to safe it, the incompetence being solely fueled by the humongous inflated ego's, ego's unable to take any kind or form of criticism. I know, because I suck at it, but this is another level. Like level 1.000.

johnnywahd · 2015-07-04T21:52:30+00:00

"I don't allow people that have an attitude in my restaurant."

So what is Amy doing there?

zuperfly · 2015-07-04T10:31:43+00:00

The woman in that video is not a woman.

RWDMARS · 2015-07-04T19:02:15+00:00

Oh god I've been to ABC's. She attacked me for going to the bathroom. But in women's defense, her husband was just like her in the end, and she's an extreme example.

asianmasaccount · 2015-07-04T22:54:21+00:00

I definitely see what you're saying with girls in general. But I've found the girls I have met on rotation have been a cut above.

I mean by definition they chose to go to med school with us instead of doing some stupid mid twenties girl thing instead. Some might argue they have an easier time, but med school at 80% difficulty is still tough.

Maybe you just got a bad draw?

Btw I think there are a lot of other issues on rotation that women introduce, but I just haven't found this to be one of them. Not really white knighting, but I do want to add a bit of realism to the discussion.

americnleprchaun · 2015-07-05T03:54:12+00:00

Oh man, that last bit about "I don't let people with poisonous personalities in my restaurant" BITCH! That has you written all over it.

leftajar · 2015-07-05T19:06:49+00:00

I had a very frank conversation with a friend at his wedding, of all places.

The guy was in his final year of medical residency, and I asked him about the gender breakdown of his resident group. It was about 25% female. I asked him, how do they perform relative to the men?

At this point he leaned in, looked around, and lowered his voice. "As far as skills, they're alright. They're never the best, but they're competent enough. But the attitude? Jesus, man... Every single woman in my program has a massive chip on her shoulder. It's like they spend all day trying to justify the fact that they're in the program. And worst of all -- they can't take any criticism. They always make fucking excuses. It's infuriating, especially when I have to work sight them. God."

I nodded. "Sounds about right."

HelloJapan1 · 2015-07-05T21:54:04+00:00

is crazy amy really the best example to show though ahaha she's a nutter :D

2015-07-06T19:13:56+00:00

There's a really positive redpill trend towards thinning the herd of women who have access to medical school. I participated in a clinical premed internship in California which is integral for gaining acceptance to SoCal med schools. Redpill men have infiltrated all of the recruiting positions and we all made the decision to ensure the program never exceeds 1/5 female participation rate. For every 25 men we only allow 5 girls to slip through the cracks. I foreshadow this becoming the norm nation wide as more men swallow the pill and start reclaiming what's rightfully theirs.

colombia40 · 2015-07-04T19:33:40+00:00

How many times have you heard, "Don't talk to me again"...just for calling them out on their bullshit

A soft next is my way of handling things now but before I would call them out and 99% of the time got some form of this answer

lutilisateurx · 2015-07-04T19:40:13+00:00

I agree with you when you say women can't take feedback and hate it when you critic. It's the Ramsay example that I don't agree with, he's a douche.

AgeofEmpathy · 2015-07-04T11:13:25+00:00

"Women can't take feedback" You are generalizing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization also gordon ramsey sometimes behaves like a cunt when he gives criticism. I am reading a book now written by a psychologist called difficult conversations.. Everything depends on how you deliver it. You can deliver criticism without anyone becoming defensive..

Title	Women can't take feedback
Author	Blake55
Upvotes	101
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Date	July 4, 2015 9:34 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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