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norwegiandoggo · 2021-10-02T07:42:04+00:00

I read the book and I loved almost all of it. As a guy who has read a lot of such material it's one of the best out there actually. Not sure what you were expecting in terms of advice. Maybe you were looking for a "magic pill" that would make all women attracted to you? That doesn't exist. Maybe that's why you felt dissapointed. There is also plenty of advice in the book on how to attract women, such as being polarizing, non-needy, dressing well, and taking good care of your health. Maybe you missed those points? You can't say there's zero useful advice on how to make women attracted to you. That's just objectively false.

seeingred81 · 2021-10-02T14:30:11+00:00

I completely disagree.

MuttonChop_1996 · 2021-10-02T07:36:31+00:00

I love Mark and was a frequent subscriber to his blog before his got more famous. I like his writing, but you've got to understand that he's not saying anything that hasn't been said before by hundreds of wiser men. He's just done a good job of putting in his own words in a way the new generation can relate to. I read Models once, it had a overall positive impact, but nothing life altering. That's fine with me. Good read.

thgjeigohrisidh · 2021-10-02T09:42:06+00:00

If it did not work for you, it did not work for you.

For me, it did some good, so I will give it subjectively 3 stars :)

outsidecan8 · 2021-10-02T09:46:56+00:00

because he realised after using mysterymethod and stuff himself that you can't MAKE girls attracted to you. If you're just not her type, it's game over. next. YOu can't 'convince' a girl. Would be like a fat ugly women convincing you that you desperately wanna bang her by using 'dhv stories' and stuff lol. It's a numbers game. Show intent. Find out if she likes you that way or not

j__bay · 2021-10-02T08:54:16+00:00

If that's what you got out of that book, I suspect you missed a whole lotta points.

It's a book about how to be a "man" (or person but it IS mainly targeted at males) in today's ever-changing societal structure without definite rules or role models. As someone with a very loving, yet not always present, socially not well-adapted father, that book has been immensely helpful for my personal growth.

Although considered somewhat controversial (though after going through tens of hours of his materials, I believe there is nothing substantially controversial in what he is saying, but it is very easy and convenient to paint him in a negative way), you may want to give Jordan Peterson a look/read, to get a sense of what Manson tried to adapt as dating advice, in a more general context; as a way of looking at and dealing with life and hardships thereof.

maracay1999 · 2021-10-02T08:49:07+00:00

The entire advice is basically "talk to women that are attracted to you"

I feel like it's only possible to have this view if you skipped entire chapters of the book. Isn't the main point of the book focusing on internal game (i.e. confidence, hobbies, dressing well, charisma, social groups, working out, making yourself into a person you're 'proud' of selling to a girl) and how to be more attractive in general?

I feel like this was 50% of the book, the other 50% was on the importance of polarization and how to do it well.

Faisalowningyou · 2021-10-02T09:43:34+00:00

still a decent read, at the very least it is mind-provoking and really taps into women psychology and behavior really well

Visualize_ · 2021-10-02T13:48:40+00:00

It's completely possible you didn't actually read the book. And by this I mean you went into reading it constantly thinking its overrated so you did everything you can to justify those expectations.

gillmanblacklagooner · 2021-10-02T15:18:45+00:00

No way. The basic advice is: Honest Living + Honest Communication + Honest Action...

Look, there’s no “magic joke”, “the best pickup line, “how to get all the girls” and the book says it in it’s first pages. It’s a book about how you can/need to invest in yourself and set your own goals.

This is a very good book.

SithLordJediMaster · 2021-10-02T15:50:52+00:00

One of the best books I've ever read in terms of "attracting? women

cannibalstreudel · 2021-10-02T16:12:47+00:00

The point of the book is that it's not your job to attract women, and you'd be wasting time and energy trying. If you try, and then the woman's attracted to you - it probably wasn't your trying that attracted her. She'd still have slept with you if you didn't try.

Sure always self improve and make yourself more attractive (diet, workout, fashion, money etc.) but aside from that, why do you have to "attract a girl?" Are you not good enough as you are?

mrpthrowa · 2021-10-02T17:25:46+00:00

At the core of it, the ultimate game is that you can't "make" women attracted to you. You simply have such hight value that you naturally attract the right women.

CountFocus · 2021-10-02T11:36:36+00:00

I like Mark Manson and from personal experience his book Models is one of the most balanced and has actually pratical advice and maybe the one I recommend the most.

5_7pickup · 2021-10-02T11:40:26+00:00

The overall concepts and ideas are good. Just barely any actionable and practical advice.

He’s not a pickup coach, he’s a writer at the end of the day. If you want real actionable and practice advice then you need to do pickup.

I read models and thought that’s all I needed but I was wrong. Learning pickup for the past 6 weeks has been 1000% more beneficial than the book models.

Alive-Doughnut2345 · 2021-10-02T07:19:27+00:00

I mean I love Mark Manson I think he’s a super cool dude but yeah I haven’t bothered with that book. It doesn’t apply to the situation for a lot of guys here so I’m not sure why it gets recommended so much

JacobMoogberg69 · 2021-10-02T06:38:13+00:00

How tall are you bruh?

JohnZoffman · 2021-10-02T17:42:36+00:00

I didnt get one useful advice from it. Nothing changed in my mind after reading it.

Exmerus · 2021-10-02T17:54:52+00:00

I think the "vulnerability" advice is trash and it's just an elaborated thing to try to be revolutionary. Overall, I think it's a good book, it has some other very useful points. But I agree, is very overvalued by the community.

Nofapdeity · 2021-10-02T19:08:46+00:00

Yeah most of those books are completely trash just approach women and read the sub for real field reports

burncushlikewood · 2021-10-03T03:31:58+00:00

I believe the best pua/manosphere author is vin dicarlo, I sound like a broken record pushing his material all the time, but it doesn't get a lot of attention but transformed my game immensely. Read the attraction code, then buy Pandora's box and read it all the way, it'll will help you understand what you need to do to pick up girls. Best game material ever no doubt in my opinion, it's tough to understand and implement but if you do you'll be pulling hotties in no time

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