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[–]nate_king1 13 points14 points15 points 14 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
"Good... Now I don't have to worry about you throwing yourself at me."
[–]chippeh 3 points4 points5 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Good... now I don't have to worry about you throwing up over me"
is what I read...
[–]skcin7 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like this one.
[–][deleted] 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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[–]bolxrex 5 points6 points7 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is going into the mental inventory.
[–]Dfnoboy11 points 14 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Completely ignore it. It's just a test to see how you respond. Just ignore it, change the subject.
Or dismiss it with humor, "what makes you think I want to sleep with you?" Or something.
And then continue to flirt, etc.
[–]skcin7 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. In my chode days I've had the "I'm not sleeping with you" line said twice to me.
The first time I heard it I was like "ok well you don't have to", and later we ended up doing literally everything except sex. She even said to me in the heat of the moment "I want you to fuck me" but I didn't do it because we had a discussion about sex earlier and she said she didn't want to lose her virginity to anybody who wasn't her boyfriend for at least several months, so I chose not to take her virginity, but I still consider this getting past the shit test.
The second time, I basically said "ok fine, well i don't see why not after you've been hinting at it all week" then I rebutted with "if you don't want to i can't force you" hahaha. Totally the wrong, uncool thing to say, and she took me back to her place anyway. I ended up being introduced to her sisters and mom and it got boring for me so I left. In retrospect, even though I failed the shit test, I still could have been laid that night if I stayed there a little longer. This one in particular was a horny little fuck.
So, I'm 1 for 2 of getting past this shit test in my days of being an utter chode.
[–]Suz73 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It means she'll sleep with you
[–]sinking_sunk 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
HAhaha, this is quite true.
Simply simply wants you to think that she isn't a whore when she does sleep with you.
[–]Suz73 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. It's like saying, "I've never done this before" lol
[–]Suz73 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Precisely. Trying to out the blame on you when it does happen
[–]poopanus 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Who said anything about sex? Quit being such a horndog ;)."
[–]ColonelKurtzPhD 4 points5 points6 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just ignore it.
I've never had a girl say that to me and not do her that very night. She is saying it because it is already in her mind, so just make her comfortable enough for it to happen and you are good to go!
[–]EricDisco 3 points4 points5 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Are you trying to use reverse psychology on me? Nice try. We're not sleeping together tonight."
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how everyone gets the same shit test lol I've heard this a few times, pretty easy test to pass, it is completely her reactive will speaking, just ignore it, say something funny or pick her up and make her squeel.
[–]nycprowl 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Every girl who ever said this to me I hooked up with. A simple That's cool, or anything else to dismiss it does fine as long as you continue to escalate.
Once while even in my bed. 'Just because my pants are off doesn't mean I'm trying to hook up, I am just getting comfortable'. Riiiiight.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I think she's telling that to herself more than the guy, in that situation. Whether she holds to it is another question.
[–]rmbarnes 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Cool"
[–]SatanicBoner 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Ugh! Get your mind out of the gutter! Why do girls always do this to me!?"
"You're right, we should totally not have sex tonight."
Basically, this is a shit-test. What you do with a shit-test is completely play into it - this gives the subtext that you're ignoring it, and her tests don't bother you. If she says you're a player, you tell her your 12 dates last weekend said the same thing, but you don't know why.
The main thing with shit-tests is, keep calm and carry on.
[–]waterskier2007 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ugh! Get your mind out of the gutter! Why do girls always do this to me!? The main thing with shit-tests is, keep calm and carry on
Ugh! Get your mind out of the gutter! Why do girls always do this to me!?
The main thing with shit-tests is, keep calm and carry on
You just said two very different things. The first reaction there is not only acknowledging it but also giving her the bad impression that she is just next in a list of girls. The only acknowledgement it needs is "ok"
[–]dave-gonzo 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"who said anything about sex? get your mind out of the gutter" or the ever popular "slow down there tiger, we just met"
[–]glassuser[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Either ignore it, or come back with something like "Sex? Get your mind out of the gutter!"
[–]thatboyaintright 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I usually just look at them, and go "Ok" or "Not a big deal" and change the subject.
[–]bolxrex 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Whoa you got a dirty mind. Who said anything about sex."
or
"We'll see"
"Aren't you presumptuous?"
Or something like that, everyone seems to have a different variation on the same answer.
Alternatively, I like "correct, there will be no sleeping"
Here's what I often do, using an example from about a month ago:
Meet girl near bar time, like 15 minutes before the place closes. I chatted up her (hotter) friend first, but she wandered off and I was left with this (still pretty good) one.
I let my buddy talk to her more than I did at first, just played it cool.
Me and my buddy invite her over. On the walk back, she says "Nothing freaky is gonna happen, just so you know." I say "That's cool" very nonchalantly and talk about something else.
We all hang out for a while (maybe an hour), then I isolate her (bedroom) by having her help me "find something" there.
I start kissing her and we get in bed...she goes for it completely. There was some LMR and I didn't actually have sex with her, just handjob and fooling around and whatnot. But it was still a lot of fun and, I imagine, a lot more than she planned to do. At one point, we were about as close as you can get to sex.
After it was clear she didn't want to go any further, we just chatted and stuff, and I was cool with that.
Later, she said "I thought your friend was going to try to hook up with me, not you." I had played it very cool at first.
So, take that for what it's worth. The nonchalant approach to a girl saying that seems pretty effective. It's worked before too.
[–]TimofeyPnin 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fIuMBDLOAQ&feature=related
[–]notlurkinganymoar 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, if she's going to yr house, she knows what's up. Don't worry about what she says with her mouth (unless it is a serious "no"). When she goes home with you, it's for one reason only. Capitalize!
[–]revbobdobbs -4 points-3 points-2 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Just be ok with it. Let her make her own mind up. But be honest:
"I accept that we will most probably not have sex. I will, however, do my personal best to get you hot and wet".
Remember, seduction is mutual. She has to seduce you. Its not up to you to do all the work.
[–]frogma 3 points4 points5 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I acSHEPT that we will mosht probably not have SHEXSH. I will, however, do my pershonal BESHT to get you hhHOT and wet."
FTFY Mr. Connery.
[–]Newbie_Sedditor 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why is this being downvoted?
I'm reminded of something Tyler said in Blueprint Decoded about masculine versus feminine polarity. Most of the suggested lines in the comments here are of the "flip the script" variety - playfully pushing her away, acting as if you don't want it. Which is fine, it works, it's fun, it's playful, it's different... but it's not the masculine thing to do.
You want to have sex. She knows you want to have sex. There's no reason to try to hide the fact that you want to have sex. She just wants to know that by agreeing to go home with you she's not committing to anything more than that, that she still has the right to take things one step at a time and follow her feelings in each moment. So revbobdobbs' suggestion seems to me like it's just about right - being honest with your intentions, but still reassuring her. "That's cool, it's still up to you, I'm just saying that I'm going to try."
[–]revbobdobbs 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Hi Newbie.
I think you might be getting it.
My response is being downvoted because most of the guys on this sub haven't let go of the training wheels yet.
Most of the guys here think that they need a routine, or the 'perfect response' - something that allow them to elicit a predictable response. Something that will let them control the situation.
(You'll find that most of the guys here, and probably most of the guys you meet in the community study or work in profession where they have to predict and control things. Engineering, IT, technical professions. They have minds honed for controlling and predicting outcomes. Imagine letting go of all of your mental conditioning in the face of doing something new and scary - like, for some, talking to a girl about sex.)
The response that I've given is honest and comes from detachment from outcome Most of the guys here aren't ready for that yet. Most of them will never be. My presence on this sub is to shine a light to the guys that will one day be ready.
Most of the guys here still have embedded into their consciousness the idea that getting sex is a priority. That It's something you take from girls. That it isn't something that can be shared by two people who want to connect. You are witnessing scarcity mentality. To guys like that, actually being honest about your intent is a terrifying thought: she might take the pussy away from you! Oh Noes!
Most of the guys don't believe that women really want to have sex with them. So they have to use a tactical approach to the girl who says "I might not want to sleep with you". The controlling man feels a need to be tactial instead of just being honest about himself and his sexuality and his masculine desires.
Most of the guys here are addicted to the old and broken models, created by weak men who had to devise models that would protect their fragile egos and protect them from ever being hurt or brushing up against reality. We can see the results of this in chapter one of The Game, when Mystery is getting emergency treatment for mental illness.
Hopefully, some of the guys here will begin to see past the bullshit that's been sold to them, clear their channels of honesty and seductive self-expression and begin to grow as seducers.
[–]Newbie_Sedditor 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't mind having theories to predict what she's likely to do; I just want the theory to agree with the empirical observation that being honest, you know, actually works. ;)
[–]revbobdobbs 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't mind having theories to predict what she's likely to do
Of course you don't. If you think that you can think for her, you have a safety net. You are able to protect yourself from the possibility of facing the unknown.
Knowing you can get the girl to laugh or to respond favourable is a deeply embedded and subtle form of approval seeking. One of the fundamentals of the seductive arts is that eliminating approval behaviour seeking is neccessary. Most PUA's think that it's good enough to fake this outcome. Repressing approval seeking will only get you so far.
Think about that for the moment: is that safety net actually something that a genuinely seductive man actually needs? Does a real man actually need to know what happens next? Is a genuinely seductive man who is in touch with his masculine core actually too scared to let the girl know what he is thinking?
I mean, how scary is it really to talk to women as if you were a man?
Or is a genuinely seductive man so detached from outcome, that he doesn't care to play the mental chess game involved in trying to control the interaction. Perhaps he has faith in the fact that he is attractive. Perhaps he understands that women actually like men. Especially men who are confident.
Dropping the routines requires detachment from outcome, unshakable self belief, iron calm. All the things that routine monkeys try to fake. But it requires these attractive traits to be present to a degree, that most PUA's simply can't produce them. Because they don't believe in themselves.
So which path do you think is more attractive to a woman?
I just want the theory to agree with the empirical observation that being honest, you know, actually works.
I've seen the evidence myself. I've hung out with a ton of PUA's, including some coaches from the major companies. Very few of them take this approach of being honest. The ones that do are the most effective. They get the best results. Incidently, none of the coaches I've seen in field take this approach.
I started pushing myself to be honest simply because I saw that the players who were honest just got the best results.
The women I'm seeing now - I seduced by being honest about what I wanted. I invited them to them to quit my presence and my life if they didn't want the same thing as me.
If you look for the evidence, you will find it. If you start being honest, you will see it firsthand.
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