For physically attractive men, how is the game different?

MidnightThunderboy · 2012-01-12T15:26:09+00:00

Coming from someone of has gone from a 6 to maybe an 8 or 9 in the past 2 years, the confidence that comes with being attractive is a lot more important that actually being attractive I find.

Besides that, being good looking leaves you more margin for error. Girls are more forgiving when your hawt.

AveofSpades · 2012-01-12T14:32:38+00:00

I've been told I'm an 8 or 9 by many women. I think the biggest difference is that I get approached a lot, and also get a lot more IOIs than my friends who'd consider themselves 'average.' The main difference I'd say is that I'm usually running on higher confidence and I never worry about AA since I often get a lot of IOIs and chicks often approach me.

Disclaimer: Being an MD doesn't hurt either. In fact, I hide this when I'm sarging in a club/bar to avoid gold diggers.

Sonny_Crockett · 2012-01-12T17:32:02+00:00

As a woman, I will most likely be more receptive to a strange man coming up and talking to me if he's relatively attractive, even if his opening line isn't 100% solid. It makes initial greetings easier, but after that if you're arrogant or just stupid then you're done, attractive or not.

rpcrazy · 2012-01-12T19:09:09+00:00

because i'm black, I honestly believe i'm a 8 or 9 to some and a 6 or 7 to others. I can tell you though, it's more of a confidence factor though that leads to success more than looks. It's looks for some chicks though, and obvious racial stigmas.

30vanquish · 2012-01-12T19:51:15+00:00

What most people here have already said.

It's easier to open a set without getting rejected right away, and you get away with more bullshit.

But, if you are not alpha/confident and lead the conversation, you bomb as much as the next guy. If the rapport is uncomfortable, you can be fucking Brad Pitt, and it won't matter.

It actually hurt me more than help before I started gaming. Because I was used to girls coming up to me, telling me that I'm the most handsome guy they have ever seen and such, I sort of slipped into a state quite young (7-8 years) where I didn't think I had to do openings. And I didn't...not until I was a teenager, where the sex comes in. And that is when I lost all my confidence.

Strangely enough I had a HB9 gf for 8 years from around 24 years old, and so my gaming didn't pick up until I was around 33, a year after we split.

I realised I had to learn to open to get the girl. Which I now do, and I rarely go home empty handed from a night out.

My day-game still sucks though. This is a bit cultural (norway) and a bit that I slip into my old afc role when it is not expected of me to approach. Norway is strange that way, btw. It is ok for tourists to do this, but norwegians don't day game. Ever. (almost)

cryer · 2012-01-12T10:00:06+00:00

Dude I'm an 8 or a 9 most girls say either or, but i can't game for shit when drunk or high because I'm such an introvert it's hard to game intuitively (aka game drunk with natural skills). Honestly it's easier for me to day game sober then it is to bar/club game with 1 beer in my system.

Actually I'm not really an introvert....probably has something to do with my first relationship ever lasting for 4 years then falling apart into many many terrible pieces causing me massive amounts of emotional trauma, which is probably why I'm slowly sliding toward generally disliking women as human beings. That and the fact a good amount of women I've picked up on have had BFs.

rmbarnes · 2012-01-12T11:41:48+00:00

http://www.realmademen.com/2011/12/mistake-attractive-men-make.html

2012-01-12T19:20:00+00:00

INTJ?

greencrack · 2012-01-12T17:57:41+00:00

Some ugly chicks care about good looking guys a lot. Then they spread their legs and the guy is out the door before he's done with his last "O" face and she wonders why all guys she meets are dicks.

JSintra · 2012-01-12T14:58:28+00:00

It just makes approaching easier.
Occasionally women will approach me.

crazyinthecoconut · 2012-01-12T19:00:33+00:00

Dunno. Sometimes I can just walk up to people and watch as they go crazy without me saying much of anything. It's weird and it makes you think about people in a much different light. I think it's a big reason why I don't have a girlfriend. Knowing how stupid people can be when they're turned on (most guys do the same shit when approached by beautiful women too) makes it a bit harder for me to empathize with them.

phallic_audio · 2012-01-12T20:49:17+00:00

May I add also that my main problem was trying to calibrate myself in regards to how attractive a girl perceives me as far as looks because there are some jokes/comments/topics that would just sound like you're a total douche (arrogant) if they see you as someone really attractive.

Another thing is if you're someone who is commonly seen as hawt, mostly, being an introvert would sometimes translate to some people as you being a snob (or something similar). Easy fix is just smile at people and greet them. If they ignore you, move on with your life. It's also a great practice on self-confidence. I do understand that internal validation (without needing anybody else to be happy) is a good thing but unfortunately, we human beings are designed to be a social creature. Kudos on you for actually turning that aspect around. Anyways, if you are just generally friendly to everyone, you never know when that will translate to a display of value (when an HB is actually observing you). Which makes them more receptive to you if you happen to approach them. Some will even come up to you themselves and start a conversation.

As for the nerdy part, I personally believe that the more nerdy you are as you are attractive, the more approachable people will see you.

Hope this helps. :)

starkistuna · 2012-01-13T04:26:24+00:00

Girls go for Shoes first , buy the most metrosexual expensive lloking shoes you can dress sharp , put a cool watch , works for me . The hard part is taking them home on a bus. LOL

Lanza21 · 2012-01-13T04:47:40+00:00

A. Never you let yourself think you are attractive enough. If you are a 1, strive to be a god damn 3. Women are attracted to this desire for self improvement. Fuck doing it for the girls, do it for you. Same thing for good looking guys, if you are a 9.9, strive to shame Brad Pitt. Complacency is woefully unattractive to everybody.

B. Looks help... a lot. With confidence and success rate. I'll tell you right now, the biggest thing that looks help with is the confidence necessary. Catching girls looking at me makes it so I'm completely comfortable with the situation going into meeting them. That being said, plenty of times I've caught myself with an 7 under my arm while seeing a chubby average guy with a 9 under his arm. The biggest thing is the confidence, but it's not an insurmountable boundary.

C. The big thing is confidence and fuck-it-ness. If you are a fat slob and approach a girl on the street and she slaps you for even trying to talk to her, you will never see her again and nobody will remember that you exist within 5 minutes. So who gives a fuck, try again. You will succeed eventually.

reddit4getit · 2012-01-12T19:36:36+00:00

Looks don't mean shit if you have no game. Took me a long time to learn this. Women are more forgiving if you're attractive, but if you lack confidence and you don't know how to keep a lady interested and intrigued, you'll be out of their mind very quickly.

callumgg · 2012-01-12T18:04:36+00:00

I get approached to the point of not needing to approach myself, but if you want relationships to go anywhere don't just try and wing it - take advice.

captshady · 2012-01-12T18:17:14+00:00

Game is only necessary for your sexual market value equal, or higher. If you're a 7, and want another 7 ... or an 8, 9, or 10, then you need game. Strauss outlines a step by step approach in his book, follow it to the letter.

On the other hand, a 7 doesn't need much game, if any, for a 6 and below .. other than maybe a simple approach.

If you're a 7 or higher, just get your ass out, to social places. Start with Starbucks, and work your way up.

totalradass · 2012-01-12T20:49:25+00:00

I'm basically good looking enough to be able to open with some really stupid stuff. This is about the only time it ever comes into my mind. I know that I can do creepy weird shit in the first thirty seconds, and get away with it because I'm not a five foot four bald man.

Besides that I never ever think about it.

urfaselol · 2012-01-12T22:02:09+00:00

When I'm out, I get approached quite a bit when I'm having a good time. But not always the come up to you and hit on you. A lot of it is more subtle like looks, accidental bumps and proximity. It's rare for a girl to straight up come up to me and talk to me/hit on me although it does happen.

All in all. Looks help, but they won't get you laid. You still need some pretty solid game if you want to get anywhere. I have a lot of phone numbers but almost all of them are flakes.

Also one thing I noticed. Girls will go out of the way to try and get your attention to prove a point to other girls. Man, I'd be talking to one girl and 3/4 other ones would try and get my attention. Jealousy is a big thing when it comes to women.

l3fth4nd · 2012-01-12T23:05:46+00:00

As a guy who has been about a 6 with and without game, and an 8-9 with and without game it doesn't matter enough to think about.

TimofeyPnin · 2012-01-13T03:14:44+00:00

SO MUCH EASIER.

shmoozer9 · 2012-01-13T05:37:56+00:00

I would recommend choosing the places you go carefully. I'm similar to you in many ways, and it makes a big difference if you go to a bar full of douches and dumb chicks who like douches. I'm good looking but awkward and a bit shy, but still can bring girls back. Go to a bar that resonates more with you, where you can meet girls who might appreciate a different sort of dude. Youll find hotties there too.

2012-01-13T07:23:59+00:00

I find you have more people watching you which isn't always great but gotta take the good with the bad

Level_75_Zapdos · 2012-01-13T08:30:01+00:00

I want to know what you all consider a 5,6,7,8,9,10 as far as looks go. Pictures would be most helpful.

Big_Timber · 2012-01-12T18:05:54+00:00

The game isn't even fair. I can walk into a room and know I'm the most attractive person in the room. I'm in shape, but not the biggest dude, yet I still have every girl around me wanting to know who I am. Men as well. Knowing you can go out and get a confidence boost just by watching men and women react to you is always a good feeling.

To rate myself and to go off what every woman has said to me: I am THE 10. My dating resume lists off the perfect man that every woman wants, my demeanor says I know I'm gorgeous but I don't need to flaunt it, and I know I'm more intelligent than most the people I meet. However I always find a way to get my point across to everyone around me so they understand without having to scratch their heads.

Sounds cocky right? All true as well. As far as looks and everything goes, I have yet to get beat by a single man I've met. I've pulled girls from rappers that roll through Scottsdale, I have a girlfriend that is worshipped by men, and it's to the point my sister won't even bring her friends near me since all they want to do is fuck me.

Now, with all that said. How does it affect game? It helps. Honestly, though, it doesn't really matter. Think of the hottest woman that you've ever been friends with. They have issues right? They also probably don't realize just how hot they are. Why? They've always looked that way and don't see what everyone else sees. They just know their flaws and think people look at them.

Anyways, if you're as good looking as you say and still introverted, fist yourself and let me know which feels better: being shy or getting fucked by your own fist. Channel the inner James Bond and be that confident man that has NO problem walking up to a woman and just chatting about the random shit you see around you. Tell her a story about something that happened to you recently. It doesn't even have to be a good one. Just talk to her and tell her something. Make it detailed and make sure to include her in the telling of it and they'll love it. How often do women get a hot guy who's actually normal and talking like a normal person coming up to them? Exactly.

Title	For physically attractive men, how is the game different?
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Date	January 12, 2012 9:49 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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