is this subreddit just filled with men & mostly bad advice

HistoricalReception7 · 2021-10-24T01:55:37+00:00

We women are here but half the comments are so cringe that we don't comment much.

feenchbarmaid0024 · 2021-10-24T02:08:18+00:00

Every now and then you do get some quality posts, with solid information, but in a sub about attracting females of course you are going to get a lot of garbage.

themostgianthorse · 2021-10-24T01:16:33+00:00

This is the wrong sub for you.

FlanneryODostoevsky · 2021-10-24T02:23:18+00:00

Just enjoy the ride.

rustoof · 2021-10-24T01:52:53+00:00

You're in the wrong place. If you want to play peeping Tom on guys talking about how to have sex with women then that's fine, but it is generally agreed by any man even remotely successful with women that asking women for advice on the subject is a complete and utter waste of time.

ooogabooogaboooga23 · 2021-10-24T01:34:30+00:00

This sub is where you go to laugh at others to boost your own self esteem when you haven’t been successful with women

5_7pickup · 2021-10-24T03:32:25+00:00

Why would I ask women for advice on how to sleep with women?

What do women know about seducing other women?

UncleGrga · 2021-10-24T06:57:21+00:00

Originally I think this subreddit was setup to discuss the social dynamics in many dating psychology books/guides. But it’s now become r/betamale

robml · 2021-10-24T01:45:39+00:00

I don't rly read up on the posts here but what is an example of the shitty advice? Also if a guy has slept with more people then that is possible if their seduction process works ergo the pedestal (it's not any different than any other skill and someone who's good at it). As for objectification yeah idk, but the rating thing I say happens everywhere whether consciously or not, some places are more explicit about it.

savedtaway · 2021-10-24T03:22:05+00:00

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iktjoker · 2021-10-24T04:10:43+00:00

Yes there are women here. Its just most of the posts here are men and most men want men advice.

Bogey_Kingston · 2021-10-24T05:07:17+00:00

sort by Top Posts of All Time and read everything from u/tofutofu for the better posts on this sub

YoMamaz_azz · 2021-10-24T05:19:58+00:00

Which specific things are said here that are bad advice?

2021-10-24T06:35:22+00:00

Nah man well said. I don’t believe half the shit on here. Some of it is good tho, but some is like ah I got approached 7 times in one night by following game and now I’m on 180 body count lmao I joined this sub to try learn seduction, how to turn a woman on, spot signals , female psychology......this sub just full of ‘approach 30-40 women one will have sex with you’ lol

eablokker · 2021-10-24T06:37:48+00:00

This is mostly a men's community, but women are welcome. Majority of people here are having trouble and looking for advice, so you do get a lot of bad advice going back and forth between people who don't know what they're talking about. A small minority do give good advice. But those who are doing well generally don't spend their time here. Quality advice can be found mainly in the sidebar and a few books and programs recommended by the community. This sub is just like the comments section so don't mistake it for the actual content.

When it comes to communities where men discuss sex, this sub ranks on the tamer end of the spectrum. Far worse things can be found online.

IGetBoredSometimes23 · 2021-10-24T07:31:30+00:00

The answer is, "yes".

Mostly men and mostly bad advice.

eat_ass_malfoy · 2021-10-24T06:20:34+00:00

im a woman and i only joined because i thought it was funny to be fair

twogravesdekel · 2021-10-24T01:12:12+00:00

Mean

DiggingCheese73 · 2021-10-24T03:44:16+00:00

Female here! I do have to say it's not worth even tryin to give a different perspective when I see all the shitty advice. I just giggle and keep scrolling. Sometimes I do try to correct but you know.. lol no one listens to the woman about women

PhoenixBln · 2021-10-24T06:47:45+00:00

aaaah. a 20 year old girl who does ABSOLUTELY now what she wants, who she is and what kind of men she wants. of course. and who never, EVER had a toxic relationship to any kind of human or man. and of course: all MEN in this special subreddit are total losers. because the internet, reddit and the rest of humanity itself is such a non-toxic thing.

you are definetly not a toxic person. you are very empathic. at least keep going telling that to yourself.

i just clicked into this subreddit and i just saw posts from guys who want help. nothing more. nothing less. in fact: your threat is the most obviously toxic, the most hatefull thing you can see there.

congratulations. you are the thing which you tried to describ here. a toxic female. just like the toxic males that you try to argue about.

adrianitoninesixty · 2021-10-24T05:34:58+00:00

Then leave the subreddit mf

notLOL · 2021-10-24T06:31:48+00:00

Its a brutal journey and hard to find those that want to take it.

Just the amounts of people subscribed here is concerning. I can't imagine they're all able to give advise or attempting to test the current frameworks of dating. Social criticism is hard and dating is one of the harder things average people attempt.

I just stick to being funny, good looking, and looking like I workout to beat the lower % of people in the dating pool and it gets me further along on a scale of opportunities. If for some reason there is a lack in some of the foundational attributes in seduction, most will get generic advice on boosting the signaling factors that cause attraction. Naming your limitations can help skew answers to help troubleshoot your specifics but still just a brainstorming session.

But sometimes the advice here isn't practical until the person has a woman already interested and invested. And the steps here are just a Guide to progression. Those are usually the advice given by women. You're "in" and they want you to succeed. Women here can give that specific advice. Outside of that you are an outsider... an "unseen" by them. Sometimes that "in" is just a one night stand for her or a multi week fling or full blown relationship. Calibrate to each other's settings

The further out from that core intimacy zone, the harder to enact any advice. This is the behavior advice that help you make great first impressions. At this far out from being intimate with a stranger you have 0 interaction with, it is a cold start or cold approach. Ultimately It's all higher risk advice and playing the numbers is brutal but easier that intel gathering on someone you specifically want to date. The more you know about someone through interaction the more you can tailor the conversation but sometimes the chances run out. I suspect the tinder subreddit posting their discussions is more keen on text seduction and using context to play the next moves play by play.

If yo do run out of chances, then the advice is sometimes to either do the reasonable thing and ignore and move on... or attempt to pull off some Hail Mary plays since it has basically run its course. These are usually bold, generally advised against, and just wild because that's the only way to play the last hand. Go big or go home.

The criticism I've seen of women to men here is a man who isn't "all in" and committed to a woman he desires. First that creepy. Attract, attempt a shot, then move on. There are strategies to allow multiple of these in parallel with different women. It's common to multi-date. Its not "bad guy" behavior anymore. I don't see how this can be a criticism of the seduction community anymore. With Tinder, women basically multi-date because that is the only way to survey the situation. Men who are high value employ similar high level strategies by focusing on more amounts of women and finding the ones they want around. Again high numbers means high rejection or ghosting but it has a higher chance of overall success for a wide range of circumstances of guys. That is why it is advice that's often given but sounds malicious but really is not. You have to meet people and some need more chances to succeed and are given less chances by women.

You find your risk tolerance. Tell the group here and likely you can try to balance out the responses ahead of time. But there's all sorts of people here with different styles of seduction. The styles don't mix together very often (college aged, vs club scene, or social club) since people will get comfortable with a single style of approach and will advise that specific experience. But some core stuff will float to the top meaning that its a core experience no matter where you meet women and how you interact with them

If you are here as a woman that's callous to men discussing something that doesn't need to be taboo, then no one really should be giving you any further attention.

Feeling offended when coming here is dumb. Men on here also get objectified and part of the courtship is understanding that initial attraction and then understanding the difference between that and some deeper core attractions that make a person seemingly irresistible vs all other potential competition. Everyone has a preference, and settling does happen on both sides.

Many here are against settling but personally am not against it since there been great relationships built from what seemingly looks like settling. Women advice tends to push this behavior even though that isn't the main objective of much of seduction. Maximizing attracting beautiful, smart, plentiful amounts of women is the core goal. To some 1 high quality woman is plentiful and that's good too

Shoot for the moon

ss1kp · 2021-10-24T03:00:11+00:00

Lol whaaaaaaaaaaamen alert

savedtaway · 2021-10-24T03:12:01+00:00

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recyclablebanthas · 2021-10-24T07:21:03+00:00

I feel like a lot of people here including OP need to read the updated rules post..

None of this fits the bare minimum standard for the sub, which is that things posted have to be helpful to people who are trying to get laid or seeking to start a relationship.

And also, rants are prohibited. If people are getting shitty or irresponsible advice, then feel free to report them.

HashZer0 · 2021-10-24T04:49:08+00:00

Found the fds turd.

Gawdx · 2021-10-24T06:28:25+00:00

Pov: you're a karen

Title	is this subreddit just filled with men & mostly bad advice
Author	savedtaway
Upvotes	74
Comments	145
Date	October 24, 2021 1:05 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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