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[–]foobazzler 165 points166 points167 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Be attractive in the photos you upload*
Don't upload unattractive photos*
Big difference
[–]matthewzz1997 40 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is more realistic hahaha
But also don't catfish because then you just become the very thing you swore to destroy.
[–]Insanity_-_Wolf 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're using obvious filters and PS then yea, I agree with you. But picking out your best photos is not at all catfising imo.
Por ejemplo, if you're following this photographers advice (as seen in exhibit 1 and "in the DiCaprio"), you're not doing anything wrong. Besides, you should be showing up on your 'A' game anyways to your dates.
PS: check out that photographers channel btw, really cool guy
[–]mass_of_gallon_sloth 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More like:
then
Don’t behave in a way that is unattractive*
That word means so much more than physical looks.
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[–]greenlittleman 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Can you understand simple fact what women choose guys differently in real life compared to online? Online your photos are 90% of success. IRL your looks are less than 30% of success. Unless you have 5% top genetics then most girls will fuck you because of your confidence and personality overall, not how good your looks.
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[–]greenlittleman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They should be disappointed for not meeting amazing man just because their only criteria for choosing someone online is photos. Why the fck she should be disappointed by meeting someone she likes a lot just because he isn't so hot looking as he was online?
She would be glad, not disappointed. You can't understand because for men the only criteria of sexual attraction is woman's looks - if she isn't so hot online it will make her less attractive by default. But for women it is different. She could meet you because she consider you as 8/10 online, but then she will know what you are like 9/10 in level of attractiveness even if you look like 6/10.
[–]EuphoriaSoul 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Never used tinder in my life. But the basic law of marketing is if you do what everyone else does, your message won't get through. Personally I would think chatting up people in real life now would be an advantage since most people might be on their phone doing it?
[–]ShoryukenPizza 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This^
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For now, maybe, but pretty soon more people are going to start realizing that online is totally useless and it will balance out real life. But in any case, real life even with more competition is better than tinder as it is now.
[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lolz @ this....
[–]PolesWithGoals 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where’s the lie?
[–]JinTheUnleashed 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not gonna lie, I do miss the early age of the internet where they let you actually try to "run" game. Now its basically gynocentric as hell with women on a throne picking and choosing.
[–]greenlittleman 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You still could use some game on different platforms other than Tinder.
[–]crazy-in-the-lemons 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Enlighten us please.
[–]thepuagrinch 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pssssst cold approach
[–]bennysteves123 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Suck a dick dude
[–]intheabsenceoftruth 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't have a problem getting matches it's getting bored when they barely talk, or I feel like I'm doing all the work
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
*physically attractive
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Idk why you have downvotes this is a solid comment
[–]misls 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Niggas without any emotional intelligence downvoted him.
[–]funtimeshereonreddit64 points 7 years ago [recovered] (27 children) | Copy Link
Be smart to realize that quality women don’t hang out on Tinder.
[–]needsmayo 185 points186 points187 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Sure they do, you just don’t match with them
[–][deleted] 38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, bad attitude saying any particular setting / source of meeting women "only has bad quality" isn't true.
That being said, online dating is definitely an inefficient way to meet the higher quality ones. By definition it helps lower attractive girls
[–]misls 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tinder helps "raise" SMV for less attractive girls. This was outputted in other ways prior to the age of the internet, but this is where the 20% of men get 80% of the women rule comes into play. They won't settle for less because they increase their SMV through this.
[–]l4w_z0ne 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you are high quality you will really effeciently pull high quality women, Tinder is no exception
[–]tickledpic 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does that make sense? You can be a "high quality" banker that just attracts crazy gold-diggers who demand you buy them a car before they'll give you a blowjob.
If by "high quality" you mean attractive dude that is smooth in his seduction, then sure. But to a lot of women high quality can mean something way different.
[–]xncopka 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
No they don't unless you consider "instagram model" as good quality women...(but I admit some good quality women have downloaded tinder but they have deleted it just after)
[–]greenlittleman 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
If we talk about quality for serious relationships (not quality for random hook up) then he is right (to some extent). Why a woman who is conservative and interested only in serious relationships would be on Tinder in the first place? Most likely she will find a boyfriend among her social circle and that is it. Tinder is mostly hook up app for people who want to have casual sex or for girls to get some validation if they don't get enough of it in real life. If you searching for good wife then ignore Tinder. If you want just to have sex (like most of us do), live in a big city and above average in looks then Tinder is your choice. But you will pull mostly girls who are lower in looks than you are, for example if you 8/10 then 6-7/10 girls would be your best results in 99% cases.
[–]KeepMovingForwardRVC 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Pretty much everyone is on Tinder though, you're basically saying there are no quality women.
[–]mrblackjapa 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most chics who has tinder won’t even want to admit to having tinder because it’s known for sex hook ups , chics trying to boost their ego just playing around.
[–]Qrioso 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just quality sluts . What smart guys are looking for
[–]Swysp 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I met my current girlfriend on Tinder for what it’s worth.
[–]crokus_oldhand 29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I also met your current girlfriend on Tinder.
[–]willreignsomnipotent 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey, is this the line for that dude's GF?
[–]Brucebruce90 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Knock knock.. Hey.. I'm here for the gangbang...
[–]confidentgirl 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I resent that! Lol we are just too busy to date. At least me.
[–]Flexappeal 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
wE aRe JuSt tOo BusY tO dAtE
[–]Gishnu 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now it makes sense why 80% of those numbers I got from tinder were dead leads, they were just too busy!
Why you need quality woman if you just want to fuck someone sexy?
[–]4bhii 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Quality men and womens*
Home darksidessj25 They want you to approach them in real life.
[–]ImAnIronmanBtw -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah if you’re looking for a quality woman, tinder and these dating apps arent the best spot.
Ive dated tons of hot women on these apps yeah but quality relationship material? NOPE
[–]SpinPlates 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're in the wrong sub if you want a "quality relationship" my guy.
I would just get off of reddit if you want that. You either get smash and dash style from seddit or the promotion of open relationships and cuckolding from r/relationships
[–]ImAnIronmanBtw 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
haha agreed
[–]misls 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah man, just tell her you're an Ultimate ironman and it'll make her panties wet.
[–]SpinPlates -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao. That's some sour grapes right there. I've slept with a lot of 9/10 models, dancers and bartenders (women that make a living from their looks) from tinder.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you’re going to shitpost, at least make it original
[–]Funkimonkey 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link
81 upvotes on a bad shitpost
Yep that sounds about right for r/seduction
Edit: 250 now. The stupidity is rising
[–]cenTT 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
It's sad to see the amount of people who come to this subreddit to improve their seduction skills and are met with these types of posts making them truly believe that unless they're good looking physically they don't have a chance. Reduces by a lot the chance of them getting better in any other areas of seduction. This sub truly is a mess.
[–]Funkimonkey 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yep, a ton of good advice gets downvoted here. I have a feeling half this sub is just trolls who believe that looks matter and that seduction isn’t a skill.
[–]Snakehead004 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's definitely a skill! 100%. Just not a miracle maker. Seduction also only helps you jump a point or 2. Still very rare to see a 5 guy with a 10 girl. Unless he's giving her tons of $. Which happens a lot...
[–]Funkimonkey 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That’s not true at all. If you can jump 2 points why can’t you jump 5 or 10?
That’s a totally arbitrary line and a self-limiting belief.
I’ve seen plenty of broke ugly guys with 10s.
Guys can’t get 10s because they believe leagues exist. If they dropped that false belief they could get 10s. (Even though there’s really no such thing as a 10 anyways).
[–]Snakehead004 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Pics or it didn't happen. Seriously.
I'm only talking about looks here. There are no 10's overall. Just an individual, physical rating method.
I've very rarely seen a 5 guy with a 10 girl who he wasn't heavily financially invested in. Maybe musicians. Or athletes. Sometimes ugly college athletes pull but they're semi-celebrities.
Height hurts too it can be overcome as long as you're not too short. Kevin hart never got with 10s until he got famous.
Seduction helps but not as much as being tall and handsome lol. I've seen good looking guys with absolute shit game and personality pile up 10's to the point they can't even fuck them all. Seen 5"s guys who pull as many 7-8's as they can handle but always fail on 9-10 girls.
I had a take a hard look in the mirror in my late 20's and put in some self work to raise my # and attract the 9-10's consistently.
Source: almost 40 now. Played this "game" for a long, long time. Met wife, divorced. Dated a-fucking-lot more. Met love of my life 3 years ago. Have had more threesomes than most guys have had sexual partners.
[–]Funkimonkey 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah ok. Next time I see an ugly guy with a hot girl I’ll take a photo for you along with a screenshot of his bank account.
[–]Snakehead004 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cool thanks
[–]ShoryukenPizza 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't think tinder will help core inner game much. Especially if you live in a huge city like Chicago. Its practically like playing the lottery. Not only do you have to match with someone, you gotta do a quick number/social media close IF they even open the app again. You gotta filter through the fake accounts too.
I hear more success stories abroad or traveling in general.
OP has some truth, but its just a little hard to understand. Tinder shouldn't be taken as seriously as the commenters shouting "shit post! I fuck 5 women daily on tinder 👀". It should be supplementary to actual real women. If people are focusing solely on tinder instead of approaching and building themselves along with Tinder, they're playing the lottery.
[–]cenTT 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh yeah, I agree with you. Tinder helped me improve my text game, but it was never my main seduction tool. It's something I used when I was at home with nothing else to do. My point is that this is a very low effort post that doesn't add any real value to newer people in the seduction world, especially because "looking good" is far from being enough to be sucessful in Tinder and even less in live interactions with people.
[–]ShoryukenPizza 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True, I feel that. I see your point now. I get what he was trying to say, yet I just bought tinder plus today.. 👀👀
True, I feel that. I see your point now. I get what he was trying to say, yet I just bought tinder plus before I saw this.. 👀👀
[–]Snakehead004 -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've seen good looking guys with 0 game get the girl over decent looking guys who are better than any of the "suduction" gurus out there. Looks are definitely more important than any single other factor. Same with us - girls looks tend to be the #1 factor. Ppl are shallow.
[–]cenTT 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm in no way denying that looks can make a difference, my point is that coming to a subreddit dedicated to helping people improve themselves in the seduction skills and making a statement about how you should be attractive or give up is completely trash. Imagine someone coming here for the first time and the first post they read is this? It's fucking stupid. Seduction involves WAY more than just looking good.
[–]Snakehead004 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good point!
[–]Funkimonkey 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol at thinking you’ve ever seen decent looking guys with game
It is a crutch but it can work. I would say I'm a solid 7 which surely a lot of guys are. I've not had much success but in the last year I've got better photos and can often meet girls who are 6's and 7's which is better than nothing. You want some photos that are a bit set up or taken at the right moment, even a photo shoot with a pro might not be the worst idea if you have just 2 photos of you from 2016 at the family dinner table or something sad like that.
You need some with other people in the photos, preferably hot girls somewhere but minimum guy friends who aren't complete doofuses.
I mean anyone who has managed to sleep with at least 1 girl knows it has greater than zero potential. Just swipe while you're taking a shit at work, don't stare at it for hours a day. And approach irl too as the main priority.
[–]XDarkstarX1138 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Women on Tinder are just there for attention.
[–]SpinPlates 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Attention from orbiters in the form of IG followers, attention from Chad in the form of a quick fuck and attention from the Glucose guardian in the form of Gucci bags.
Be the Chad.
[–]ruffyamaharyder 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I have never heard the term "glucose guardian"! Where did that come from? I'm stealing it.
[–]SpinPlates 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sucrose supporter, Aspartame Ancestor, Confectionery caretaker, Fructose father.
There is more than 1 way to skin a cat my guy
[–]ruffyamaharyder 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bahaha! Love it! These additions are pretty sweet! Glucose Guardian has the best ring to it though! 💲💸
[–]sleepykient 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree, that was gold
[–]chachicka22 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women are regular people who want companionship, discussion, or a fun night out just like everyone else on Tinder.
[–]PuroPincheGains -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Speak for your own experiences dude. Just because you don't match wit high quality women doesn't mean they aren't there.
[–]SpinPlates 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Take the black pill. Being attractive is the key to high level game...and most game in general.
The simple fact of life is the 5'4 Indian kid will never pull a 5'10 blonde model unless he is very wealthy.
Unattractive men have no idea how easy it is if you're traditionally attractive. (Tall, good hair, good jaw line)
Women will approach YOU.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Ehhhh not for me dude.
[–]SpinPlates 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Not sure what you mean. Elaborate.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I’ve been told I’m above average looking and after a certain point I couldn’t match with anyone on tinder.
[–]SpinPlates 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
From looking at your post history on r/rateme I think you are definitely above average looking.
6ft tall, white, good jawline and hair, good shape.
The problem is, you're 18 years old and all of your 18 year old female peers are fucking dudes that are 25.
Be patient dude. Keep hitting the gym and working on yourself and you will be a killer at 21. Trust me. You're definitely good looking enough for game.
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[–]ScHoolboy_Stu 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being told you're above average means nothing b. Above average could mean a 6, which means you're gonna get f all matches.
On top of that, you could have shitty pictures.
I always got compliments in real life, but only just got good tinder photos and good tinder success .
My current tinder photos gets joke comments from girls like "this pic just slid in my DMs and asked for my friends SC", along with loads of compliments.
So evaluate if you're as attractive as you think you are, really think about it. If you're above average then that's great, but not enough to have girls chase you
If you do have male model looks or somewhere close, you really need to do something about your pictures
[–]SandtheB 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOL... I don't use Tinder but I get the impression that it is a very superficial website.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not saying everybody with this attitude is like this, but guys who say this tend to want girls out of their league. I know a lot of guys who would have more success if they wanted the female equivalent of them. But they want a hot girl who is getting hundreds of messages a day. They think hot girls are shallow, but if a chubby, poorly dressed, average woman approached them they would be completely uninterested.
[–]willreignsomnipotent 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1- Yeah, kinda. I've seen it.
2- a lot of girls do this too. Difference is, the girls often get away with it!
[–]fqGmUjDT2GCAmFqN 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's actually adjusting your photos quick enough so you don't look like a niceguy/neckbeard, that's only if you want matches. Next you must learn which ones only want attention
[–]beastboi27 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Tinder is such a joke..it's where horny average dudes meet horny fugly bitches that think they are the shit because those desperate dudes keep telling them how amazing and beautiful they are smh
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There are some very attractive girls on tinder so don't lie.
[–]ScHoolboy_Stu 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If this is your experience then look into how tinder algorithms work.
If you're ugly and get lefted all the time, guess who shows up on your tinder?
[–]richer-fitter-sexier -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No more truthful words have been spoken.... Respect
[–]undextrois -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Get the PWF tinder blueprint and follow the instruction and game on tinder thats all you need
[–]SpinPlates 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't know what program that is but you're not having any success on tinder if you're short, fat and ugly.
[–]comfortcreature999 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All 3?👀
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What’s the PWF blueprint?
[–]theAliasOfAlias 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the result of my googling: https://www.playingfire.com/buy-product/
$200? Hmm...
[–]undextrois -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
playingfire.com
[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this isn't true anymore man. online dating is dead. it's over.
[+]mutually_awkward -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And for the record, attractive means:
Confidence, dressing well, good hygiene, good at texting, being fun and interesting.
[–]NotMyBestEffort 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh, no. Attraction means Attracted To, not "I talked myself into being attracted to this person because she is a female (or - he is a male) - and I am supposed to so......"
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