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Tonight, on my date, I applied EVERY single "PUA" theory. WOW!

wtfhappenednow · 2013-05-28T04:19:28+00:00

I.. Was sexual very quickly and not apologetic Kino'd, pushing more each time Teased her like crazy while still trying to get to know her If she tested...

wtfhappenednow

May 28, 2013

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Was sexual very quickly and not apologetic
Kino'd, pushing more each time
Teased her like crazy while still trying to get to know her
If she tested me, I completely ran with it and escalated

She LITERALLY said the following:

How I am more a "man" than any man previously
How my aggressiveness is sexy
How she is FLUSTERED by my "wanting" and her feeling "desired"
How she said "wow, you're confident and slightly full of yourself, that's different and sexy"

Previously I would have played it safe. NEVER FUCKING AGAIN Taking a RISK sets you apart, and when I went in for the first kiss and it was a rejection I was indifferent. An hour later, I was sucking on her tits under a tree, seeing how she had no panties on.

She played the "next time" card to be sure I was into her, but WOW!

EDIT: Now if I can learn how to apply this to "hotter" girls - 8/9/10s, and immediately determine if they're single. Any advice?

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Title	Tonight, on my date, I applied EVERY single "PUA" theory. WOW!
Author	wtfhappenednow
Upvotes	238
Comments	95
Date	May 28, 2013 4:19 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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What if you thought instead that the 10 is, to the guys who get them, only a 5? You see them as 10, but because you attribute to them qualities which others don't count as qualities.

Of course you like her because she looks good, but so what? There's plenty of good looking women, and a lot of them are probably better in all other aspects.

How much does she likes kids? How warm is she? How friendly is she with other women? Can she get along with your friends? When you want to go out, does she want to or does she blow a fuse because she's feeling bloated this week because it's that week, which mean she can't wear her white panties which is totally the one she wears when she goes out so she isn't going out and that it!

How much trouble does she give you? Does that happen with your "5"? Bet it doesn't. Those "6-7-8" make some of the best girlfriends, they bake, they snuggle, they don't freak out because their mascara would run, they can stay in all week-end long just fucking around, and relaxing, in front of a fire in a cabin in the woods. Yeah, she's not as pretty, but she's better in a lot of non superficial ways.

If you make a list of all what you take for granted in the girlfriend you had, the non superficial things, you'll see that "hot" is not the end all and be all of what you want in a girlfriend.

[ ] Doesn't do drugs?
[ ] Likes sex, doesn't have hang-ups.
[ ] Like to cuddle.
[ ] Like to dance.
[ ] Isn't a douche with your friends.
[ ] Doesn't consider other women the enemy, or worries all the god damn time, you'll just leave her.
[ ] Actually likes to eat.
[ ] Eats normal food, with people, can be brought to brunch with friends and parent regularly without freaking out.
[ ] Is hot.
[ ] ...

You know the quote, "No matter how hot she is, someone, somewhere, is tired of dealing with her shit"? That's what it means, it means that the girl you think is a perfect 10, usually, isn't. Get to know them, you'll see. No matter what people look like, everyone is some kind of fucked up, you just have to find the kind of fucked up you both can live with.

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That she's smart and interesting. Instead of complimenting her physical looks, it'd be better to compliment her cool shoes/shirt/hair/shitlikethat. If anything, it'd be better to tease her about her looks (not too harshly, obviously -- unless you feel like it). She's been hearing about her eyes/smile her whole life, so that kind of compliment doesn't mean anything to her. Not only have guys like you already said it before, but she's also heard it from huge pervs and total douchebags before. You don't wanna be lumped in with those guys, if you can help it.

And whatever compliments you do give should be limited, and genuine. Don't compliment her Gucci purse, because she obviously didn't put that much thought into it (and she certainly didn't design it herself). Whereas if she's wearing a band shirt and you make a remark about it, you're not really talking about the shirt itself, you're complimenting her taste in music. For all you care, she could look like a ragdoll, but you appreciate her personal taste. That goes a long way (also, don't just do that with hot girls -- do the same with anyone).

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Yeah, that sounds good. I'll admit, I'm not a very "deep" person, so stuff like that usually isn't something I'd ever care enough about to consider. But yeah -- like when she's wearing brown, and her dress is pretty tame, then it's obvious that she's not really trying to get "noticed," meaning she's probably a bit shy in general. Also might be a bit prude.

Whereas if she's wearing highlighter yellow, she wants people to notice her -- and in the context of a bar/club/party, she does want to get noticed (and is probably less prude). That's a good idea. Usually I just don't pay much attention to clothes, and pay more attention to facial expressions and body language, but that's a good idea. Just thinking about it now, I already notice that shit subconsciously, but I don't usually mention it to the girl herself because I don't really care. There's a lot of ways to work it too -- if she's wearing green (and seems to be someone who prefers green), that could mean she's more "in tune" with the earth, and/or is trying to make a new start on life, and/or appreciates the "fresh" color for whatever reason. Or maybe it just matches her eyes.

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For me usually, I either bail, or play it cool and just wait it out, or I go all-in and tease her like there's no tomorrow (and sometimes take it too far).

For me personally, I don't judge anyone with a Gucci bag (it's a popular brand, lots of girls have it, so it doesn't say too much about their character -- not inherently, at least), but it's still a possible sign that they might be a bit stuck-up/bitchy. So in a situation like that, I might be more inclined to just bail and find someone else, but I'll usually tease them a bit first, just so they can remember me -- in case we see each other again later.

For girls, IMO immediate interest (or lack of it) is unimportant. There's just been too many times where a girl initially hates my guts but then warms up to me. Likewise, there's been too many times where a girl's treated me like eye candy at the start, only to watch her interest fade the longer we talk.

Again IMO, you have to tease her. See if her sense of humor is at a semi-similar level. If she's "experienced" and not a total bitch, she'll understand what you're doing, she'll laugh, and will likely tease you back. Then you can get some banter going, which builds a lot of sexual tension. If she responds negatively to the teasing, that means you're either doing something wrong, or she really is a bitch, and you don't need to waste much more time on her. If you know you did something wrong, you can try to correct it by toning things down and going in a different direction. It's up to you though. Sometimes that works fine, other times it just makes things worse. It's all gonna be trial and error. Edit: And whenever you can, try to make the teasing a bit more sexual in nature, while also using plenty of kino. If she seems like she wouldn't respond well to kino, just do incidental shit, like "accidentally" brushing your leg against hers. Stuff like that. I prefer to not be very openly sexual -- usually -- while relying more on my body language and shit. She's gonna get the hint either way, so IMO there's no need to be too sexual about it. At the same time though, it seems to work for a lot of guys. So it's whatever.

The thing about actual 10s is that they usually know exactly what's going on, so they'll tend to have bigger "bitch shields." That doesn't mean they're bad people, but for your sake, in this moment, what's the difference? You either have to break past that shield somehow, or just bail and find a nicer person. Being "nice" yourself probably won't break it, and teasing might only strengthen it. Then again, teasing might also break it if it's done right. The only other real options, IMO, are to either be blunt and state your intentions, or to start off with a situational opener that means something to her, then keep following it up until you get into a much deeper (more "psychological") conversation. For me though, I prefer to just tease her and hope she responds well to it.

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Even when I do go out with friends, I become a "lone wolf" as soon as we get inside. I still go back to them every so often, but otherwise, I do my own thing. Most of my friends are pretty cool and are at least decent with girls themselves, but in some cases, they'd ruin the vibe by saying dumb shit, and in other cases, they'd steal my thunder by being more attractive and generally more interesting than I am. The only real purpose they serve is to motivate me -- and they can easily do that while sitting at a table across the bar and not messing with me (at least not until I go back over to them).

One year in college, I lived with a guy who was better at getting pussy than anyone I've ever met. Pretty much every day he'd come back to the house with a new girl, go down to the basement, fuck her, then send her on her way. One night we went to a frat, and since I was unsure of myself and didn't really know what I should do, I kinda just hung around him for a bit. Eventually he took me aside and basically said "Dude, you need to get the fuck away from me." I asked why, and he said "You keep following me around while I'm trying to hook up with these girls. They see you standing there and get turned-off because you're not doing shit. You just stand there waiting for me to do something. Go find something else to do."

At the time, I was pretty pissed about it -- it's not like I was literally following him everywhere, and I was still talking to girls and shit. But he was right -- I was basically depending on him to make shit happen, and I only stayed near him because I knew girls would be around him, without really contributing anything myself.

Now when I go out, I usually give my friends that same sort of lecture beforehand (not as bluntly as he did, but I make the same points). And what's funny is that prior to living with him, I had already acted the same way that he did. I would always ditch my friends to go do shit on my own. He was just so much better at it that I felt compelled to follow him around.

Point being -- you don't need a wingman, and unless your wingman is on the exact same page as you, you probably don't want one either. You'll do just fine on your own, and you also won't have to deal with any curveballs he might throw at you. 99% of people won't care that you're by yourself, and even for those that do, you just tell them your friends are off doing something else (which is true).

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On my phone so pardon the brevity. I knee she wanted to kiss me in my lips, she stated it, but said to wait until sunset since we were in a visible bar. I said sure, and went in for a kiss a minute later. She pulled back and said to wait, so I didn't want to be forceful, recalibrated, refocused, and played it off like it was no biggie.

Sun set, I said we should take a walk. Took her hand, led her to a garden area nearby and sat on the bench. Arm around her, stroked her shoulder. Her body language opened up, hand on her thigh. All movements were slow and I kept pushing, if matched with resisitance I backed off a step and pushed forward to in a non forceful manner. After some kissing, tit grabbing, and then kissing her neck, my hand wandered into her bra. Massaged, she was super turned on (I even asked her), but resisted.

So, I literally stopped everything, hands off, smiled looking off into the distance and said "no biggie." She was sexually frustrated, came closer to me, and then I went up her thighs to find out she had no panties on. Went back for her tit, got it out, sucked on it, but then she playfully stopped me.

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You hold onto her hand as long as you can, keep eye contact, and by god you better smile, this shows you have an interest in her.

When you first meet a girl, most people do not initiate kino by grabbing onto her thighs or rubbing her waist, she may get creeped out. With kino, you start small. Such as shaking her hand or putting your hand on her shoulder when joking with her. As she gets more comfortable with you, you can go explore new areas.

When you hold onto her hand when shaking it, it shows you are confident. The idea is that women thrive off of their emotions. Simply shaking their hand like you would meeting a friend invokes no emotion in her. Holding on means you have interest, then her mind becomes flooded with thoughts of you and your intentions, which could trigger a flurry of emotions from her and this is exactly what you want. First impressions are everything and by doing this you've shown her you don't want to be her friend, but something more. This rush of emotions can cause her to get a bit nervous and will cause her to pull her hand away. She's may get nervous but it is a good nervous.

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Oh for sure! Here is a something I'll do often when in an awesome mood or in state.

Meetings eyes with a cute curl walking by, I'll beckon her over. If she complies (usually does If I read the flirty eye contact correctly) I'll immediately take her hands as she arrives and place them around my neck while I then rest my hands on her lower back. Since she complied by coming over you will usually get no resistance against this.

From here, because you are pushing so much physical game and that is all she can think about, I literally doesn't matter what you say. I've even experimented in asking boring, chodey questions but in a super chill/sexual tonality and inflection.

Then, when you are finished with your little "moment" with her, end the embrace and push her away first. TofuTofu's physical push/pull is perfect here.

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