Study: Women want egalitarian values but still want men to pay for dinner.

ILoveHate · 2013-08-11T20:52:22+00:00

The bigger issue here is that after 50 years of feminism men are still expected to fulfill their traditional gender roles.

themountaingoat · 2013-08-11T20:40:05+00:00

This is so fucked up. What makes people think it is okay to have equality in every way except the ways in which you receive special treatment?

luxury_banana · 2013-08-12T00:37:22+00:00

"What's yours is ours, what's mine is mine."

ioncloud9 · 2013-08-12T00:53:59+00:00

That's their idea of equality. Looking at what man's life, and treating it like a buffet table. I'll take this, that, fuck that you can keep that.

Bill Burr

theskepticalidealist · 2013-08-11T19:57:46+00:00

Oh what a big surprise . And this OPs title is a contradiction, hence why I'm MGTOW

Women want a traditional male just without any limits placed on HER. That's what it comes down to.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-08-11T23:58:00+00:00

Men paid for dates when men were the breadwinners who made money.

Wages are equal for equal labour now. The thing is, feminists only want change if it benefits women, it is as easy as that.

moonbreazesfw · 2013-08-11T21:57:38+00:00

That's called having your cake and eating it too.

CertusAT · 2013-08-11T23:36:13+00:00

What they wan is fairly irrelevant at this point. What Men are willing to give is the important part. That feminists do not want equality has been shown over and over again, efforts should focus about educating men about there options.

nwz123 · 2013-08-12T01:42:14+00:00

I remember this woman I dated for a bit a long time ago. She was a huge fem nazi so I am not sure what I was thinking at the time. First couple of dates I paid for dinner and movies.

We had been going out for a couple weeks and one day I was out in her neighborhood looking for a place I was going to have a job interview at just scouting the area out to prevent being tardy for the interview the next day. So I asked "Do you want to meet up for some lunch with me at that applebees near you, since I am in your neck of the woods?" She said sure.

I didn't have any intention to pay for her lunch that day because I figured it was a mutal meetup for a sunday lunch and we had already been on a couple dates. She threw a shit fit about it. Tried the old guilt trip crap on me which fails because I am a dick and dicks can't be guilt tripped. I dropped her off, and when I get home I had a voicemail on my phone from her mother. This is a 27 year old woman that had her mother call me because I didn't pay for her lunch. Her mother called me a misogynist and how her daughter was made of solid gold and I need to treat her like royalty or ship out.

I shipped out all right, shipped right on out and right into the arms of a woman who would become my future wife. Who also paid for my meals just as much as I paid for hers. Glad those red flags came at me full speed ahead and I avoided that previous shipwreck.

dungone · 2013-08-12T04:16:51+00:00

Very interesting:

most men (84 percent) and women (58 percent) reported that men pay for most expenses, even after dating for a while. Over half (57 percent) of women claim they offer to help pay, but many women (39 percent) confessed they hope men would reject their offers to pay, and 44 percent of women were bothered when men expected women to help pay. Nearly two-thirds (64 percent) of men believed that women should contribute to dating expenses, and many feel strongly about that: Nearly half of men (44 percent) said they would stop dating a woman who never pays. A large majority of men (76 percent), however, reported feeling guilty accepting women's money.

Notice the 84 vs 58 discrepancy.

Most women I've dated had greatly underestimated how much things cost and often conveniently "forgot" things that I had paid for. Many others seem to become situational communists (from each according to his ability to each according to her needs) and call that an even split.

57% offer to pay but 39% do not mean it.

I.E. only 18% of women legitimately offer to help pay. No info on how far this drops when women offer to pay in full.

76% of men reported feeling guilty.

This doesn't change that 2/3 of men want women to pay. Their feelings of guilt could stem from a lifetime of emotional blackmail.

Xanthan81 · 2013-08-11T22:57:47+00:00

Study: The sky is blue, and grass is green.

Samsilent · 2013-08-11T23:45:16+00:00

It's about what women want and how much they can influence men to receive it. It's not exclusively feminist as traditionalists expect this treatment as well. The idea is "equality" where convenient and special privileges everywhere else. The fact that this paper included the term benevolent sexism is a dead giveaway as to the preconceived ideas already accepted by the "researchers"

revealshindsightbias · 2013-08-11T22:25:16+00:00

I didn't need a study to tell me what I already knew.

dungone · 2013-08-11T22:54:09+00:00

There needed to be a study on this?

Peter_Principle_ · 2013-08-12T00:44:40+00:00

"One order of fried ice, please."

Everything_Is_Rape · 2013-08-12T18:16:45+00:00

Forcing a woman to submit to the financial support of a man for her meals is not the opposite of requiring her to pay for her own dietary needs...in fact it's exactly the same thing. It's rape.

PeterArching · 2013-08-14T17:36:28+00:00

Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up first.

tallwheel · 2013-08-12T06:00:51+00:00

Study asks respondents if they would like a free dinner. Results show most would.

Title	Study: Women want egalitarian values but still want men to pay for dinner.
Author	interkosmos
Upvotes	131
Comments	103
Date	August 11, 2013 7:53 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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