Suicides among Canadian males considered a ‘silent epidemic’

baserace · 2016-07-26T03:12:27+00:00

Silenced, not silent.

jaysixxth · 2016-07-26T04:11:55+00:00

Because we're only important when it comes to pay. Men have almost no rights to their children except when it's time to pay. Pay for the kid, pay for the ex but don't expect full custody even if the mother is a Crack addict, you pay and shut up. The amounts are so important we have to work countless hours to live a decent life but even then, they can decide to raise the amounts because who needs to eat anyway, who needs decency? That's why.

jhra · 2016-07-26T06:41:05+00:00

I'm in my early 30s and up until a year ago I didn't personally know anyone that had taken their life. This last year with a hellish recession hitting my area I've been to six funerals of friends or acquaintances that took their lives. All male, none of them reached out for help. My dad was having suicidal thoughts, tried to google a local support group and got mired in pages and pages of Provincial documents looking for anything to help finally finding a number that didn't work.

cmumford · 2016-07-26T04:07:10+00:00

According to Wikipedia's List of countries by suicide rate for 2012 here are a few countries.

Country	Male	Female	Ratio	Country Rank
United Kingdom	9.8	2.6	3.8	46
United States	19.4	5.2	3.7	59
Canada	14.9	4.8	3.1	77
Australia	16.1	5.2	3.1	78
Japan	26.9	10.1	2.7	109

Of the 169 countries Canada is higher than the mean (at 77), but fairly close to average. This is looking at the male:female ratio only - not overall values. For male+female totals (per 100,000) Canada is ranked at 70 - still fairly close to the mean.

What's interesting is to look at the bottom of the ranking - where the ratio is 1:1. Only five countries have women slightly edging out male suicide rates. But, all those at 1:1 are those horrible barbaric (sarcasm intentional) backward countries, so I do think there's a correlation with male suicide and western societies.

Real_nimr0d · 2016-07-26T02:24:58+00:00

The most pro-feminist country has a high male suicide rate, what a surprise! In other news water is still wet!

AloysiusC · 2016-07-26T07:03:49+00:00

It wouldn't be so silent if people thought men were as valuable as women.

Machnow · 2016-07-26T03:50:53+00:00

moral of the story.....don't get married....it's so very simple......

won't happen though. If I've learned one thing...there's no shortage of stupid men (and women), and never will be.

Booty_Sorcerer · 2016-07-26T04:00:14+00:00

According to a few scholarly papers I found suicide is almost always somewhere between the 7th and 1st leading cause of death for males.

MRA-automatron-2kb · 2016-07-26T15:41:10+00:00

Canadian society and women isolate men, deny their problems, and kill us off.

The most depressing is day after day hearing how women have it harder.

I don't know if it's deliberate or just female selfishness.

zulu127 · 2016-07-26T02:18:03+00:00

Those people do great work over there on Canada's west coast.

zaisoke · 2016-07-26T18:23:12+00:00

With that new feminist prime minister they have, i wouldnt be surprised if the rates continue to soar.

Nobody cares about the lives of the dispensable, and thats how feminist view men and masculinity alike.

bravado · 2016-07-26T09:45:11+00:00

I presume Trudeau's response would be "because it's 2016."

splodgenessabounds · 2016-07-26T11:35:42+00:00

Whitley said but [sic] the transformation of traditional gender roles may have gone too far because it appears many men can’t cope, especially middle-aged men, who are the most at-risk group.

“The age is paradoxical because men aged 40 to 55 are perceived to be the most powerful and successful in the country,” he said.

They are breadwinners, fathers and custodians of families’ welfare, but can also frequently be found washing dishes and changing diapers in today’s modern world.

"They" (I'm in my mid-50s) are also that demographic most likely to have been turfed out of a "lifetime" career in the last decade or two, thanks to neo-conservative governments and "laissez-faire" economic policies. "They" are now either a significant proportion of the long-term unemployed (and because OMFG YOU'RE OLD!!!!) or are taking on part-time shit jobs for shit money just to get by. And after 30+ years spent working at a "career" whose interminable, crushing boredom they bore because it was the primary means of giving their family the best they could, they find their children grown up and gone, and sometimes (often?) their "lifetime" partner has shoved off to graze on greener grass. Add to that the blatant discrimination against older employees[1], that "a job for life" disappeared years ago and the fact that - in large measure - skilled manufacturing jobs no longer exist in most westernised economies (and resource extraction is largely mechanised these days).

And somehow it's a shock that so many blokes my age[2] top themselves? No shit, Sherlock[3].

[1] There might be the odd puff of hot air about employing "older" workers now and then, but it doesn't last long. The simple fact is that if you're over a certain age (30 will do), you're looked upon as both so dyed-in-the-wool you can't change and as expensive.

[2] Not that long ago I was nearly one of those who said goodbye. Nothing this article says (or any of a thousand like it) surprises me.

[3] If women think the job market discriminates against them, they should try being a white, middle-aged bloke. That'd really open their eyes about discrimination.

dangrullon87 · 2016-07-26T16:28:15+00:00

Call suicide hotline "Hello, whats going on" "oh your a male, please hang on" "Hello, whats going on? Oh your a female? Please dear you have so much to live for, please talk to me."

baconbitz0 · 2016-07-26T10:02:18+00:00

Is there any legal recourse if a wife tells a husband to kill himself and he does? I had a friend from 3 years ago take his life who was in an abusive relationship with his wife.

killerofdemons · 2016-07-26T06:51:19+00:00

That was actually a pretty good article. It's a real shame this comment section turned into such a shit show though.

Thanks for posting op.

Nergaal · 2016-07-26T15:41:53+00:00

Is 1 in 5000 a super high suicide rate for any country in the world?

51m0n · 2016-07-26T15:58:53+00:00

All suicide is a silent epidemic, and it has been for thousands of years.

2016-07-26T16:49:58+00:00

This is exactly why I am never getting married, and why my kids will be going to private school.

I don't want my children growing up in an environment where being a boy or boy tendencies are vilified.

Justin Trudeau is a fucking idiotic SJW and I already really regret voting for him.

2016-07-27T05:45:11+00:00

See, this is why you cannot take feminism seriously. How many times have you heard feminsits state that feminism is a way to alleviate the problems faced by men? That if only men would embrace feminism, they'd see their problems taken more seriously and true equality would be achieved? Canada has feminists firmly rooted in the highest echelons of office, and this is the 'justice' men are seeing, a situation in which there are virtually no shelters available for men while women enjoy countless dollars of funding. Always look at what these people do, not what they say

2016-07-27T16:14:22+00:00

Canada is a cultural marxist hellhole that is the world center of radical feminism. As an American, the only thing I envy about that place is their universal healthcare.

ZimbaZumba · 2016-07-28T08:46:40+00:00

The rate of suicide amongst Canadian Aboriginal Men is off the scale.

LucyferTheHellish · 2016-07-26T12:03:25+00:00

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yummyluckycharms · 2016-07-26T19:43:27+00:00

What is perhaps even sadder is that how mothers and wives of men that have committed suicide aren't doing anything about it. They are not making this an issue, they aren't pushing back against the matriarchy, but are just accepting it as their fair share of the cost of supporting women.

If even the female blood relatives of the men that died dont care, its not likely that the matriarchy at large will do something at all. If you want change, people need to start making the matriarchy feel pain.

2016-07-26T20:57:17+00:00

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finickyEater · 2016-07-26T12:35:38+00:00

Listen guys, I get the anti-feminist sentiment but you can't blame this discrepancy on women. It's no different than women blaming men for things like pink taxes and pay gaps.

Men tend to be set up to have less social networks and support. Never mind trying to blame where that arose, but unity and reaching out needs to be the path forward if your intention is to actually fix things.

Also keep in mind, we're all biased towards our own personal experiences...you have to step outside of those sometimes.

Title	Suicides among Canadian males considered a ‘silent epidemic’
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Date	July 26, 2016 1:51 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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