The average guy dillema

Littleknownfacts · 2019-06-12T12:44:10+00:00

No inc*l woe is me threads.

MMDT · 2019-06-12T08:48:20+00:00

Another dude wakes up to AF/BB

concacanca · 2019-06-12T09:39:26+00:00

This whole thread is propagated on the idea that you are just going to settle down with some thot the second you catch the attention of one.

The way I see it this can easily be avoided in two ways:

1) If you are worried that she doesnt like you enough compared to guys like your brother - increase your value until you are. When chicks are sucking you off within 2 hours you wont be feeling that way.

2) Just pump and dump those chicks. You have no obligation, moral or otherwise, to treat them as they want to be treated if they are treating you differently to guys they actually find attractive.

DaphneDK42 · 2019-06-12T09:56:30+00:00

Dude, you have a hot brother. You are blessed. You should use him as pussy attractor. The world works like this: girls like hot dudes (doh); there aren't enough hot dudes to go around; being in close proximity to a hot dude, some of the girls which are caught by his gravity, but unable to land him, will be easy picking for those dudes around him.

J_Milton_Jr · 2019-06-12T08:57:30+00:00

There is however a significant chance they secretly wants a different guy

there is ALWAYS this possibility... the most beautiful men and women are betrayed by their partners, no matter how beautiful or intelligent or whatever they are, there is always someone who could run over you, you can never be 100% sure that you are your partner's first choice ( Also, the opinion of a partner may change, if you were the first choice 10 years ago that does not mean that you are still today), and in the end it's not important (as long as (s)he does not treat you like a second choice) that (s)he chose you ... thinking that you might not be the first choice leads to nothing but frustration and annoyance, I would rather focus on things that I have influence on ... you can not be the first choice for everyone

arcticshqip · 2019-06-12T10:05:35+00:00

So you don't want an average girl that really likes you now, because you think that later you can find a hot girl that tolerates you? Why average is not enough for you?

TheReformist94 · 2019-06-12T10:27:01+00:00

Awww. You just realised, contrary to what TRP and the women on here say, women literally hand sex on a plate for free for men who have looks

Eastuss · 2019-06-12T08:35:52+00:00

Average gal has the same dillema.

poppy_blu · 2019-06-12T10:39:16+00:00

So you’re mad at women because you weren’t born someone else or as attractive as your brother?

Do unattractive women get to be mad at men for choosing attractive bitches over them?

You were dealt the cards you were dealt. That’s it. You can’t change them. Learn to play them. That’s what life is about.

Gravel_Roads · 2019-06-12T10:09:11+00:00

The moment a guy is hot enough and can lead a conversation the woman will feel chemistry because her reptilian brain tells her she found a good mate.

This is not how people's brains work.

Chemistry happens when you feel relaxed and "in sync" with a person. A man who is hot but awkward might still be found attractive, but he probably still struggles to establish chemistry (and, if he's wise, he'll lean harder on his strengths/looks instead of chemistry/presence). Meanwhile, a boring/bland dude with a fun, effusive personality might be able to "make friends and influence people" 24/7, men and women alike.

Women don't have some weird lizard brain, they make roughly the same snap-judgements about people as men do (which is why "Chad" doesn't just have lots of girls, he also has lots of male friends, as well. He's good in social settings, regardless of the gender of the people around him.)

CMV: When you manage to be attractive enough late in your life you will receive sloppy seconds and the girl picks you because you are safe and she will never be as attracted to you as the hot guys she chased.

It's hard to "CMV" because different people come to different outcomes. Women aren't just inherently "sloppy seconds" just because they've had sex before - that's an insane leap of logic. Not all women are chasing Chad, not all women ride the CC, not all women "settle" with the "safe" option.

Most chicks marry their college sweethearts. Those who don't aren't "less than", they just haven't found a person they want to marry yet. Same for men.

It's generally better to date people who have had roughly the same level of experience as you, because each relationship tends to teach you something about yourself. The more you learn about yourself, the more you're better able to choose people you're compatible with, and to reject people you aren't compatible with (not because they're inferior, but because you simply recognize that you wouldn't get along in a relationship.)

Your CMV is so passive that it leaves no room for human choice. Will you end up with a woman who only "settles" for you as the safe option? If you do nothing to avoid it, and a woman comes along and decides it for you without any protest on your half, sure! Are there things you can do to avoid relationships where your partner doesn't appreciate you as an individual? Absolutely!

This whole concept that older women are somehow "ruined" and that only young women are desirable is retarded. Adult women are better at communication, more realistic, more self-aware and familiar with their own personal wants and desires. If the only thing you want in a relationship is a virginal pussy, you might want to remember that having sex is like... .05% of the time you spend with your partner. The rest is just spent enjoying each other's company. If you can't come up with anything else about a woman you value other than her virginity, you are probably not ready for a real relationship anyway.

nemma88 · 2019-06-12T11:40:33+00:00

Not everyone is the hottest person in their gender, it's something majority of the population learns to get over at one point or another. It's not something unique to just Men or Women.

I'll give you a tip...

Instead of focusing on the girls chasing your brother, look at the girls not chasing your brother.

Yes most people find someone around their looks match, but it's 2019, people are not forced to settle anymore so least they'll probably find you attractive.

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phoenix_shm · 2019-06-12T12:13:27+00:00

Thinking a few ahead, I've resisted going all carnal w/several women for mainly 2 reasons 1) she wants me as a POC novelty notch in her belt and/or 2) if she's that easy...I don't care to risk getting VD. Bonus reason, may be the underlying reason, I don't want a woman just for their physical company and, frankly, I don't have enough "give a damn" to change/influence her to be more if she doesn't want that on her own.

phoenix_shm · 2019-06-12T12:18:59+00:00

I've found many women who are well educated may be confident enough in their socioeconomic status that they are okay with some dumb hot guy they believe they can influence and somewhat control for their protection, pleasures, and social status among other women... Not really scientifically proven, but just an observation...

BaronIncognito · 2019-06-12T12:29:16+00:00

You are 100% right about smart girls. I recently met an extremely smart, nerdy girl. She has an advanced STEM degree, used to play D&D, huge GoT nerd, etc.. She might be the smartest person I’ve ever met. I thought finally, a girl I can just be myself around!!! I have an IQ of 135 and many nerdy hobbies and interests but I usually hide them when it comes to dating.

I figured this was a girl I could drop “the game” with and just be myself. Wrong! After 5 dates I got the familiar speech, “you’re such a great guy! I just don’t find myself attracted to you.” A painful lesson learned. It doesn’t matter how smart or dumb they are, when it comes to dating, the pussy calls the shots.

flyinghorse1 · 2019-06-12T12:34:52+00:00

I'm an average looking dude who does well in terms of dating and sex so it can work for you. A lot of success just comes down to making sure you both have a really good time together when you do go on your date.

meomeowmeoww · 2019-06-12T11:00:20+00:00

average men are picky

HostileErectile · 2019-06-12T11:32:50+00:00

We joked about the poor bastards who will go on dates with these girls, all dressed up and nervous, while they sucked my brother off within hours after meeting him.

Haha, this is such a hilarious feeling. I honestly love this feeling. You can bang most people in the span of a few hours, people who think you cant just dont have the skills to pull it off.

With every woman im with im confirmed in this.

celincelin · 2019-06-12T11:49:54+00:00

Guys like hot girls, and girls like hot guys.

Resolves 95% of the posts here.

Is it even possible to find a girl who also fails now

Of course, start with ugly landwhales.

Ultramegasaurus · 2019-06-12T11:50:27+00:00

But this isn't the case at all. Its a dumb fantasy made by males.

And women don't perpetrate this myth? Come on. Women are very invested in the belief that their own sexuality is some sort of advanced, civilized and virtuous thing in stark contrast to men's which is constantly disparaged as silly, shallow, primitive or abusive even. Women never tire to emphasize how men's confidence, humor and compatibility are so much more important to them than looks.

sadomasochrist · 2019-06-12T12:18:19+00:00

One small critique. This isn't as binary as you believe because it's contextual.

You'll get lucky so don't give up. Just increase your approach\contact counts etc. Drill escorts, go to rehab meetings etc.

It's a studied phenomenon that the men with the highest Ns just aren't picky and aren't even necessarily that attractive.

You'll learn sooner or later a motivated 6 is better than a shitty 9. To some girls, at some time, you'll be their Chad if you stop being such a pussy.

DocNMarty · 2019-06-12T12:31:27+00:00

In that dilemma right now.

I'm gonna take things at face value. Her motives for settling with me aside, if my relationship with her makes us feel better, doesn't interfere with my life and my goals, doesn't jeopardize my financial security, and there's chemistry, then why not?

In nature, I'm pretty sure females have had more mates than males do. "Sloppy seconds" is a fabricated social problem. It's only an issue if she had caught something from those prior sexual encounters or developed bad habits/neuroses.

I don't think an "alpha" would use n-count alone to disqualify someone from being a partner, and unless there are red flags, it wouldn't even be a thing he would ask about.

Both of us just need to get over our insecurities over our n-count and focus on what makes us happy, and if we find a partner who fits in that equation, even better.

If not, so what? Better to be free and single than stuck with someone you don't jive with, in my opinion.

Okay, gonna brace for comments that tear down my position.

Title	The average guy dillema
Author	Nobodykers
Upvotes	19
Comments	102
Date	June 12, 2019 8:07 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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