What is the end goal for you?

terholan · 2023-01-26T15:26:37+00:00

When your belly is full you can’t understand a hungry man, because hungry man can only think about food.

Roman_69 · 2023-01-26T15:03:44+00:00

For me personally I noticed that I don’t enjoy sex without emotional attachment anyway. Best sex I had was with a girl who I was dating for 2 weeks (we saw each other a lot, long story) after that I noticed the reason I didn’t really enjoy my hookups was because ultimately I didn’t care about them.

I’m still dating around even though I know these Apps are futile since these women are mostly unpayed prostitutes or fucking me for a cup of coffee.

So I’ll still go out for the chance of a diamond in the rough since I can’t socialmaxx as they say. But I don’t sleep with them. I know I could and that gives me all the "ego boost" from doing it without the waste of time.

So I’m really trying for a girlfriend and want something longer term. But there don’t seem a lot of women who aren’t ugly and don’t wanna just fuck around

TheRedPillRipper · 2023-01-26T19:15:25+00:00

Is the red pill simply a reaction

TRP is simply a toolbox. Though I agree presumably most of us that find TRP, have experienced some catalyst. That brought us here.

the end goal

First TRP is amoral. That said, this question is simply a man's mission. What do you plan to use TRP for? To what end? Personally, I'm trying to milk as much out of life as possible. I read it takes around 10 years to master something. So in an average life of say 80 years, you can get really good, at 8 different things. That's my goal.

Godspeed and good luck!

bigsharkswipe · 2023-01-27T05:30:14+00:00

I want to be the greatest pimp that ever done it you dig my dawg. I'm here to take bitches souls and ruin them for everyone else. One day I might settle down with my 4 wives somewhere and they can feed me grapes.

rendakun · 2023-01-26T19:23:17+00:00

I am not conservative and I am certainly not religious, but the "traditional success" you describe rings true with me.

My highest goals are probably:

To have many strong platonic relationships. Brothers and sisters I can rely on. When times are tough it's an emotional safety network that helps everyone. I could imagine these friends being close with my future children, and me being close with theirs, just like village communities in olden times.
To marry a woman I'm crazy about and whom I can trust. I see so many dysfunctional marriages, we've all seen them, abusive partners and infidelity and child neglect and countless other chilling phenomena. Someday I'll find a partner who will make a great teammate.
To have a generally positive impact on the world and everyone around me. To reduce my "footprint" so to speak. This requires a surprising amount of focus and will.
To have a strong understanding of life and the world around me, and to be at peace with the whole ordeal. Philosophy (with a healthy helping of science) is king here.

TL;DR I risk sounding like a philosophy dork but: success, compassion, and wisdom

Secure-Teaching-2860 · 2023-01-26T17:03:02+00:00

I chase women/spin plates purely for fun, once it gets tiring or she's playing hard to get (genuine desire or nothing)I just delete her number and I also try to escalate as soon as possible except I really like you and I want a LTR. like they say, women are just icing on the cake, I'm gonna bake my cake and make it the most delicious shit ever as best I can. Goals 1) improve my physical fitness 2) make some money while I network with people 3) obtain a license in avionics and have a fulfilling career in the industry.....my passion 4) looking forward to leaving a legacy behind. I want to have kids sometime in the future and I'll only do that when I can afford the lifestyle I want. 5) read as much Books as possible. I'm in love with sci-fi and space opera.

imperator285 · 2023-01-26T15:03:05+00:00

I'd like to get married and have kids. Unfortunately probably never will because women have a strong incentive to divorce

Pretend-Sale8985 · 2023-01-26T16:26:29+00:00

Moving to Dubai as an atheist is a dumb idea. Thailand would be a better choice, but it's just not an option for most guys because high paying jobs only exist in first world countries. And it is not so easy to start a business that can be completely managed in a third world country, unlike what dropshipping scammers would like you to believe.

Also, if you had read the sidebar, you would see why most of us don't want a traditional conservative lifestyle (male disposability and so on) regardless of the feminist culture of today.

My end goal is to simply: 1) Get a good career through higher education 2) Build a highly aesthetic muscular ripped physique 3) Get so good at the guitar that I can play all my favorite rock and metal songs and even the difficult stuff like Vai and Satriani, and make my own music 4) Spin plates throughout the rest of my 20s, my 30s, my 40s and possibly even beyond that

You are right that chasing women is not going to give a true purpose, but we can have goals that allow us to self actualize, we don't have to be tradcons to be happy.

yo_its_star · 2023-01-26T15:01:20+00:00

The end goal is to make my own decisions, and to create my own framework of reality that prioritizes my goals and desires.

I spent a lot of time consuming other views and living from different doctrines. The Red Pill is part of that, but I’d say it was more positive because it made me independent of women, family, and friends’ opinions.

I wouldn’t say sex or family are really up there. Not that I’m jaded by cultural conditions of the west, it’s just I’ve lived other peoples dreams and desires for so long that I want to get comfortable with what’s right for me before I do anything like that.

Andgelyo · 2023-01-26T18:03:40+00:00

End goal is to have my own family and move as far as fuck away from here as possible. Not necessarily married, but def kids with a good girl. I got a good girl now, and I’m very happy in my relationship. Also, be rich as fuck.

hiktaka · 2023-01-26T15:46:09+00:00

It has long been known that the peak sexual satisfaction for a man is a harem. Rotate-fucking few attractive women (concubines) who are loyal and not fucking any other man.

Kings and emperors in the history of the world ranged from monogamous to promiscuous, but the vast majority of them prefer this harem sexual life.

BIGFACTS98 · 2023-01-26T22:58:05+00:00

There is no objective reason you can give why getting laid as much as possible is a bad life goal if it satisfies the individual.

Same way you can’t give any objective reason why one’s life goal can’t be centered around eating breakfast.

There is no discernible reason behind anything because you cannot comprehend why anything exists. Nor any objective way of measuring the value of anything.

Positing that starting a family and being a leader in your community is somehow inherently valuable is only a matter of subjective judgement. This also is strongly related to the biological imperative, however biology is no god. There is no reason to reproduce, it is simply the most persistent basis for life, things that can reproduce, will reproduce and they will likely pass on this tendency to reproduce to their offspring who will share in this tendency to greater or lesser degrees as their environment allows.

Because reproduction is possible, you exist and in order for you to exist you must come from a long line of organisms that tended to reproduce, so you share in this tendency because their hasn’t existed any environmental constraints to reduce this tendency from proliferating.

There is no end goal to life that you or anybody else alive can prove and no correct way to go about living. You will however likely prefer to engage in behaviors that prolong life because that is most basic tendency one must have to exist. Any organism that did not share this tendency necessarily didn’t exist or ceased to exist or ceased to reproduce and thus leave offspring who share in this tendency.

Have a family, be a leader in your community all you want if that’s what satisfies you. However you cannot judge anyone else’s goals as inadequate or incorrect because their exists no basis for judgement. The only true basis for judgement of another individuals goals are the extent at which they impede with the fulfillment of your own goals. Your your own goals are the only things you can definitively value because they are the only basis to determine what is right or wrong to you.

_DonDraper_ · 2023-01-26T14:55:44+00:00

You’re forgetting one thing. Sex itself is really really really fun. It’s not about proving you can get laid after a while (if it ever was).

numberrrrr · 2023-01-26T15:22:07+00:00

Raise a traditional family. I don’t think there’s anything quite like it.

stogie_t · 2023-01-26T17:10:15+00:00

Bruh I don’t want to be pulling and running game in my late 40s lmao. Can’t be spinning plates at age, I hope I have a family and children by then. My county allows you to have antenuptial contracts where you can marry out of community of property.

Right now in my 20s I’ve been going a little wild but I’ve always been more relationship focused. I’ve been seeing a girl that I am heavily considering making my LTR but we’ll see how it goes.

KoyoriIsHere · 2023-01-26T17:22:50+00:00

I would become what I've always dreamt of be as a child and a teenager : someone cool. Someone I could be and not only pretend to. Someone I can be proud of or hate. Someone completely destroyed or successful, someone who will either die deranged by everything I've done or seen, or someone who will die peacefully after accomplishing all their objectives.

IntelligenceLtd · 2023-01-26T19:04:58+00:00

welcome to getting old and having responsibilities pal. eventually even plating and dating might take up too much time my ideal would be a menage a trios (unmarried) where they both have my kids.

ohnoidea20 · 2023-01-27T08:36:49+00:00

Being able to have sex with a lot of beautiful women is a side effect of doing well in life. Not the end goal in of itself. However, I find it to be a pretty compelling side effect that doesnt get old.

There’s really only two fundamental purposes to all life: preserve your own life and reproduce. That’s a feature of all living things. Now Im not necessarily interested in breeding, but I do enjoy having fun practicing.

2023-01-27T11:21:18+00:00

What is the end goal(s) for you and why?

Joy. Living a nice life, a life without pain, need or misery. Maybe a interesting life, that makes for good stories and fond memories.

Well because I do know the people that move to Dubai - they aren't happy. They live miserable lives, trash their bodies and are in constant misery whenever they don't get their way. THe average DND player that has regular gatherings has more joy in his life than the average dude that got a lambo lease.

And I say lease for a reason - rich people don't get lambos, they rent them, with the race package on a track, where they don't sweat potholes. Those are happy. I want to be like those people in life. And if you see what they do - they don't really spend that much money - especially on stupid overpriced shit that only serve a point of showing you are capable of spending a lot of money on overpriced shit.

Is the red pill simply a reaction to getting fucked in life (which many of us have gotten fucked or will get fucked).

The culture, the complainers or the actual men that grow up from it?

I think there's a massive difference between men that take ownership of their life and all of the BS around here and over the internet that you see under #redpill. I think the former definitely is. You get a sense of deja vu, when you play the system - and find your actions ironically being quite conservative. But not all that is conservative is taking ownership of your life or playing the system. And that's the thing. Being a parasite like Smith, doesn't mean you escape the Matrix, even if you win, even if you win with no combat - you will just be the new system - and you'll have to adhere with the stupid bindings of your dystopia.

Be free, live a good life, be a man you wanted to have for a father, or a man you want you child to be growing up - and let the rats eat one another - they won't ever make you happier or ease the pain of your actual day to day life.

Mrimalive1 · 2023-01-28T12:36:17+00:00

Here is all you have too do in a nutshell. Don't marry a woman from the US, Australia, Europe. That's it! Get a woman from somewhere else.

sussykeke · 2023-01-26T15:08:23+00:00

Working hard, having a family, being a leader in the community and having a strong philosophical and religious base generally work for people if implemented correctly

For me personally, having children is the main goal besides just mindless sex. But I'll never meet that perfect woman that only lives inside the minds of men, I'll just meet women who are good enough.

I've been with my gf for ~4.5 years now. I plan on having children with her because she'd be a great mother and I'd like her to raise my children. I keep gaming her as if I was gaming a plate. Sometimes I provide comfort - a movie night, I clean the dishes.. other times I just start drama out of nowhere, tell her I don't give a shit how her day went when she's enthusiastic to tell me.. 🤷‍♂️ She gets pissed off and then in the evening she's telling me how hot I look. Women wouldn't believe how much of an open book they are when you know what cues to look for.

She might leave me for some other guy at some point even if I do everything 100% right, but that's just life. She's a smart girl and it'd be, hopefully we could get an arrangement where I could see my kids. Most important thing is never marry! I also get some tail on the side to keep my game sharp and because one pussy gets boring over time.

You're never gonna find that one perfect girl that you can relax next to and be in a loving embrace with. Women look for power. You want women? Get power. You don't have to be the best of the best, you just have to be good enough.

jio-wifi · 2023-01-26T16:32:34+00:00

Want to buy a big house. Never be short of any materialistic things. I feel materialistic things provide me with some kind of security.

Natural-Exercise2070 · 2023-01-27T02:18:40+00:00

my end goal is jannah. im muslim and i think you all should be too. i want to be succesfull in this life and in the hereafter

JamesSkepp · 2023-01-26T20:29:48+00:00

Seems like many of you are lost men. A lot of vague answers with no meaning behind them.

You have a wrong approach to making a poll. You asked a low quality question and got low quality answers:

What kind of product do you people want to buy?

We want a good quality, cheap product that will make us happy.

Why aren't you guys giving with detailed answers about the dimensions, weight, power use, ingredients, preparations and why aren't you guys also describing how this product will change your life's philosophy?

For people with vague answers: It may be useful to study conservative ways of being a male (IE Christian conservatism, Islamic conservatism) as guidance on living a meaningful life.

The religious conservatism is what got us here, among other things (and I don't mean feminism, that's only recent decades). For a very long time religion and men's leadership were appearing as being one. Religion was equal to patriarchy. We were told that it's the role of women to serve men. Why? b/c that's the nature of things. B/c that's how god ordained it.

But a few things happened along the way, especially in last 2 decades.

As we on TRP learned, it's not the role of women to serve us. Instead it's their nature. But - we also learned that for women to want to embrace their nature willingly and eagerly, men have to step up and be worthy of women's submission.

What trad-con is - is men believeing that women should submit just b/c they are women. But that's not how we evolved and that's not how women work. Attraction isn't a choice.

BP Beta's love "religion as solution" b/c it relieves them form the need to accept their inferiority and the need to work on becoming attractive. That lack of evolutionary pressure on men, so to speak, made us complacent. Just as hot girls get entitled to being treated as princesses "b/c they are hot", we men got complacent by believing we are entitled to women's submission and pussy "b/c we are men".

Religious conservatism, in 99% of tradcon cases I talk to, boils town to "how do I make my woman not cheat on me" - isn't going to solve that problem. I told this many times before, every major religion always told women "dont cheat" and put various restrictions and punishments on them for that. Jews and Hindus have been doing this for 2500-3000 years, Christianity for 2000 years, Muslims for 1500 - and they still cheat.

If the threat of being stoned, whipped, caned and publicly shamed doesn't work for 3000 years, clearly you are using the wrong methodology.

MotsPassant · 2023-01-26T16:43:18+00:00

Be in a LTR with a gf that loves and respect me, and is extremely loyal. Yeah man. All the rest is just to get that, for me.

KingGerbz · 2023-01-26T16:08:18+00:00

No mention of fulfilling my purpose and carrying out my mission? Disappointed in y’all smh.

TheBunk_TB · 2023-01-26T17:12:00+00:00

Live a better life

If “x” solution doesn’t work for you, then why not try “insert additional variables”?

armin_si · 2023-01-27T21:06:50+00:00

RAW POWER

(This is actually an honest answer)

awfulgoodness · 2023-01-26T16:30:44+00:00

Have the carbon footprint of David Suzuki.

ReCalibrate97 · 2023-01-26T20:19:16+00:00

Those who don’t want wife and kids coping

SalporinRP · 2023-01-26T20:58:48+00:00

Long-term it's to find a good wife and start a family. And before all of the haters jump down my throat I have no intentions of doing that in the US. Society+legal system makes that too risky for me.

I am 26 and have been fortunate enough to travel a lot which opened up my worldview and made me realize how fucked the US is in terms of economic/social/gender dynamics. I spent most of 2021 in Colombia and Brazil as a digital nomad which made me realize that making USD and exporting said USD to a lower COL country is how I see myself living. I had plans to make the jump full-time in late 2022, but my Dad got into a period of poor health, so just making sure he's all set up before I head out full-time. Current timeline for a full-time move is July of 2023, but I have travel planned in March to check out places.

Plan to spend the rest of my 20s traveling, working remotely, and exploring new places before settling down for a family in my early 30s.

Plan is to keep improving on my career and investing, start a side hustle, and try to mostly retire by 45-50.

I was fortunate enough to graduate college with zero debt and I lived at home for 2 years while working my ass off so was able to build up an emergency nest egg of $50k. I attained that maybe 18 months ago. Now I throw only like 5% into my savings acct while everything else goes into my retirement accounts/vanguard/fidelity. I was more conservative than most in my early 20s not investing and throwing everything into a savings account but it honestly was far better for my mental health. The amount of freedom I feel having that nest egg while being able to throw basically all of my money into investments just feels awesome - a brag for sure, but hey it's the truth.

Tons of people on here, the internet in general, and IRL want to act like guys who go to other countries are losers or are running away - and sure, maybe some are.

But I personally never had problems getting laid with hotties in America, have a healthy social life, family dynamic, etc. I just see other countries as being a better deal.

COL in America is out of fucking control. An average 1BR in any decent city is like $2k at the bare minimum if we are talking 2nd tier cities, even more if we are talking about 1st tier.

I just am looking at the chess board and am thinking: "Hmm, I could pay $2,700/month on a small apartment in the US (the "covid deal" rent I had on my last apartment in NYC) while playing crazy prices for everything else as well. Or I could go to Brazil or Colombia, pay $1000/month and live in a luxury high rise with full amenities, cheaper everyday COL, and a culture that hasn't been completely destroyed yet while getting a boost in SMV. Sounds good to me!"

Pufinnist · 2023-01-26T22:40:10+00:00

I'm new here. All I really wanted in life was a dog and a yard and so my new year's resolution was to save enough money over the next 1-2 years to get the fuck out of California because I can't afford to live here economically, politically, socially, or culturally anymore. It took me a while to deprogram myself of other people's dreams and aspirations and input on my life but once I got some clarity I pulled the trigger and started planning and doing. My friends suggested Kansas City and it looks like a nice place to buy a house and start a new life. Women are the last thing on my mind right now.

To get closer towards my goal, I started learning how to invest and trade, cashed out of the meme stocks, stopped jacking it, quit drugs again cold turkey, and started hiking and doing free workouts on YouTube because I need to stay active. Hopefully my efforts and savings are enough to get me a respectable house in a decent part of town. The money I have right now is probably enough to afford a really good downpayment on a 3 bedroom house in KC, but I want more of a safety margin.

Not to say that I wouldn't like to have a girlfriend/wife/family, but I've been lurking for a while on this subreddit and MensRights and the horror stories scare me off. I need to work on strengthening my heart and my status in the world before I even think of getting a girlfriend again.

TL;DR Ignore women, get money, stay fit, move out and buy a house somewhere I can actually afford, and get a dog because that was the baseline of what I wanted out of life as a kid. Everything extra was somebody else's expectations and input on my life. Fuck that. I'm living my life as my own from now on.

Hellsing007 · 2023-01-26T22:55:51+00:00

I have very specific creative businesses I want to start that require money. If I cannot achieve it exactly as I have envisioned, I can scale down the plan or achieve it in a different way.

But first I am starting a business that has exponential potential to grow. While doing this I am also launching a freelance business to make more money and have a better quality of life.

So my goal in life is to be free. Free from offices and 9 to 5 jobs, free to bang who I want and have a family when and if I want (sometime much later than now, I’m young). Free to go where I want and learn new things.

And to do this I have very specific goals in mind. I’m also Christian and while I am not perfect (pretty sure I’m hedonistic banging so many girls) I have a definite purpose tied to my beliefs which is not the typical “have a family and work hard for them” I see most Christian men hold as an end goal.

Family is a goal (eventually), but not my purpose. And my own end goal is tied to my creative endeavors and is immensely fulfilling to me. But I’m lucky in that I always knew what I had as an end goal and purpose in life, even if I was too lazy or comfortable before recent years. Some of this purpose is tied to my religious beliefs and some to my creative ambitions.

Also end goals move over time. If I finish climbing one mountain, I’ll have other waiting for me in the distance.

Calpis01 · 2023-01-27T08:57:47+00:00

You should take a look at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

I've been banging my head on this, but for me personally, I think it's shifting from being a consumer to a producer. I don't want money to just endlessly consume other people's passion and efforts. I want to use my position, wealth, soft power to build something meaningful that will impact those around me and last even after I die.

hiem3w · 2023-01-27T09:50:04+00:00

The end goal is to live a life with no regrets. I don’t want to be 60/70/80/90 years old with a failing body and a cursed mind wishing I’d taken action when i physically could.

What would I regret? Not working on my own business, not treating my family like friends and my friends like family. Doing those things i tend to put off longer than i should. Being a little bit better than i was the day before and enjoying it as much as i can.

Something something memento mori

thefreakymamba · 2023-01-29T21:40:01+00:00

The journey is the goal. It’s about becoming a better version of yourself. And learning about yourself through that process. The red pill advocates for you to workout be more charismatic etc. to get laid obviously, but during that process usually men realize that that goal is not as fulfilling, but then they can look back and say wow look how far I came and continue on their journey becoming a better man for themselves, for their kids, for their community etc. (as it seems you probably have). It’s good to have goals but there usually isn’t an end goal because once you reach whatever was your “end goal” a new goal appears

Chicagoj1563 · 2023-01-30T17:20:04+00:00

To me the red pill isn't an end goal. Its just an explanation of how the world works. It gets some of it right, some of it wrong. But, I want the perspective to open my views.

As for an end goal, its nice to have them. We should all have a path and purpose we are on.

So, my end goal is to be on my path and purpose, excited every day about what is right around the corner. Living in the moment, and not being in the planning phase my whole life. Living the dream, not waiting for it to be accomplished. It's really about being excited and motivated each day, even if its just to hit your workout(s) for the day. Whatever I'm looking at today, next week, and this month, I want to be driven by it. Motivated about what's possible. Then, taking the action to work on it.

That's the end goal. Let the chips fall where they do.

Strict_Indication457 · 2023-01-31T14:58:26+00:00

I just wanted to find the hottest girl I can get with a decent personality and settle down with her. The red pill helped me achieve that. I realize how much more time and focus I can have on shit once you're done clubbing, texting, dating apps, seeing multiple chicks, etc.

MattyAnon · 2023-01-31T21:46:11+00:00

You can say the west prevents you from getting married and having children because of laws and the quality of women.

Agreed

And that the business environment sucks for men

Well, this is not true. Business is really hard, but anyone who has done it as a man doesn't feel that they are being prejudiced against. There just aren't many women doing it. Yes they get a bit of extra free media attention for showing up, but they don't get much extra (maybe the occasional bit of woke investment).... but very little, and there are so few of them it makes no difference whatsoever.

Move somewhere that has better women and better laws.

Well this doesn't make as much sense as we'd like to believe. Woman are women. AWALT.

Moving abroad needs transferrable skills and experience or a lot of money, this isn't achievable for the majority of men.

What is the end goal(s) for you and why? Is the red pill simply a reaction to getting fucked in life (which many of us have gotten fucked or will get fucked). Lets discuss

For me: financial independence and a regular rotation of FWB's again, as hot as possible.

No marriage (it's a fucking shit show), no children (although if you want them I totally get that, just don't marry their mother).

It may be useful to study conservative ways of being a male (IE Christian conservatism, Islamic conservatism) as guidance on living a meaningful life.

Urgh..... religion is not the answer. Organised religion is only there to subjugate a population and make a small amount of money for the church. They're all corrupt as fuck, I want no part in that shit. Believe what you want, but don't pay someone else to go kneel in their pretty building.

notjuang · 2023-02-02T16:58:46+00:00

My end goal is to 1. Become commissioned as an officer in the usmc 2. Build at least 3 strong friendships 3. Get married and have kids

Rednes1982 · 2023-02-04T01:53:42+00:00

Sex is like air. It's only important if you aren't getting any...

Still not sure what I want but what I do knows it's not where I am right now and it's not how I'm doing it.

Title	What is the end goal for you?
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Date	January 26, 2023 2:21 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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