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[–]m5k 2793 points2794 points2795 points 6 years ago (141 children) | Copy Link
I had a roommate in college who would spend an hour on the phone with his girlfriend (who was at another school) and he'd just be apologizing the whole time. I mean like, apologizing every 5 seconds or so. For fucking ages. She was such an abusive bitch.
[–]BioTechnix 714 points715 points716 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I’m a freshman currently, this is my roommate
[–]SultanOilMoney 331 points332 points333 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
What's the point of dating in college even lmaoo where do you find the time nevertheless suck up to your girlfriend
[–]lmhTimberwolves 241 points242 points243 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There was plenty of time for my first serious relationship in college. Anyway that’s how I ended up failing out of college in my first semester
[–]Toasty_Jones 85 points86 points87 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey you’re me but like not me
[–]carnsolus 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you just push all assignments to the day before they're due and never do any reading
[–]Boristhehostile 61 points62 points63 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s easy to find time to date in college. I had more free time then than I do now I’m in full time work. I also had more energy to actually pursue relationships.
[–]Dynamaxion 36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention being way hornier, now I just straight up care less about the whole thing. Still a lot, but less. It’s also easier to cling to a partner cause early on you’re thrown into the deep end with no friends and your whole life upturned.
[–]BioTechnix 30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This dude isn’t really active on campus afaik, so most of his time is split between homework and GF phone calls, usually at the same time.
[–]SultanOilMoney 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ohhhh I see
[–]weab00 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Regular sex? Human connection? Sharing the evenings and weekends with someone you share similar interests with? Did you really just ask what the point of having a girlfriend in college was.
[–]delukard 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When i was in college i did not needed a gf in college.
There are lots of women looking for enjoying their sex life without a commitment either on the same college i was or in the other
Saturdays were for going put and sundays were for playing soccer.
[–]DankReynolds 59 points60 points61 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Current roommate is in same scenario. His gf also bit her ex’s ear in an argument. He still won’t break up with her. Insane.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey bro what you doin here lol
[–]DankReynolds 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol idk it just popped up on my reddit feed and I was expecting some triggered comments. Instead I found something relatable 😂
[–]Swifttree 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a buddy just like this. I even went through with speaking to him even though it was awkward and he went on defending her for the rest of the conversation. "Not everyone gets her like I do" or "you only see the worst parts of her but never the good parts".
[–]IsaRos1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Crazy is often also crazy good in bed. So what do we know...
[–]tiltedraccoon1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Me too, we'd hear him pleading with her, crying in his room. Whenever she called he'd literally throw his laptop (or anything else) on the ground and run to his room because if he didn't pick up the phone quickly enough he'd be in trouble. She made his life hell.
We tried to open his eyes but he'd always just say he loved her. This went on for two years until he found out that she'd also been cheating on him the whole time.
[–]Hayleyspantybitch 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s fucking terrible!
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never had that but my last girlfriend would randomly suggest breaking up just so I’d assure her that our relationship would work out. Once I decided I’d had enough of her bullshit I said “okay. Let’s break up” and saw the regret on her face
[–]cheesyotters 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Didn’t understand this was abuse when it was happening to me, until it was happening to my best friend and I got to see it from a third person perspective
[–]yellowliz4rd 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lets hope she’s no longer there
[+]R____I____G____H___T -175 points-174 points-173 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
She was such an abusive.
You sure? Constantly apologizing sounds like the type of man that the average woman wouldn't be interested in, which may lead to a split relationship.
If he was truly hurt by her, though, that's of course objectionable.
[–]Yashugan00 82 points83 points84 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that type of girl keep these men on the line to toy with them. they are like cats playing with a wounded mouse. Keeping him on the line for hours of apologies is goddess worship and she loves it.
[–]KikiYuyu 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The average woman isn't abusive
[–]soaringostrich1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Tell that to r/mgtow
[–]KikiYuyu 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They would just think I was trying to hypnotize them with my evil gynomancy powers. Seriously, they're a mirror image of hysterical feminists.
[–]kmcgurty1 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit what a cesspool of garbage
[+]Iprobablyjustlied -31 points-30 points-29 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
So you’re saying if my gf is mad I should not apologize? Just tell her to deal with it?
That’s Ass backwards.
[–]MrSomnix 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you fucked up, and you know you fucked up, apologize. But let's say things get busy at work and you need to come home late and the only way she'll speak to you is if you apologize over and over. That's what the op was talking about. Making him beg for forgiveness for things that don't need forgiving in the first place.
[–]Iprobablyjustlied 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Gotcha.
[–]Wiley_Jack 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on what she’s mad about.
[–]einTier 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to be this person. Apologized for all kinds of shit that wasn’t my fault. I developed a three rule system to break myself of the habit.
If all those things can be answered with “yes”, it’s ok to apologize. Otherwise, find something else to say. “That is unfortunate.” “I hate that this happened to you.” “I wish things could be different.” All of those things can be true statements but they do not imply guilt or responsibility.
[–]Testubeicles1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (74 children) | Copy Link
cool story bro.
You're lucky you only know one cunt.
[–]FantasticalSuperNova 141 points142 points143 points 6 years ago (50 children) | Copy Link
You seem angry.
[–]melodicdeadite1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (45 children) | Copy Link
And?
[–]son_of_the_monarch 94 points95 points96 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Let's talk about it
[–]FantasticalSuperNova 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Well, his anger seems directed at women as a whole.
Tbh, this sub is about a pussy pass being denied, not hating on or being angry at women. If anything it's about equal treatment and this dude's comment seems a little Incel-y by insinuating women are cunts.
Just my 2 cents though.
[–]pj_rocketleague 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now he knows two!
[+]CubeKun -10 points-9 points-8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
why the fuck are you getting downvoted so much LOL
[–]Bl00_Berry -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Echo chambers, echo chambers everywhere
[+]WholesomeReddytor -68 points-67 points-66 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
So is this like the new r/MGTOW or r/braincels subreddit? Cause your typing language certainly implies it. B•tches will be b•tches, don't let them get to you and remember that their only use is procreation. So go out, bruise some beef curtains, break some hearts and live a little 👍🏻
[–]asdfdelta 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Phew, good thing you censored the i in 'bitches', I was about to get super offended.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
I just went to r/MGTOW and some was just dudes camping alone or whatever (cool posts) but some was OBVIOUSLY super angry, sexist dudes bitching.
[–]MarzMonkey 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's almost like every subreddit has it's own crazies.
[–]Legiitsushii -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It use to actually be about Men who decide to go there own way instead of worrying about getting in a relationship or getting married. Then people decided instead of going their own way they just want to complain about how women won't sleep with them.
[–]YingYangYolo -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I saw a post that unironically called feminism the new nazism
[+]FeministaConquista -263 points-262 points-261 points 6 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, yeah. I've heard all of y'all's dumb stories before 🙄 Men deserve some stern ridicule from time to time to keep them in check though 🤷 I'm sure he was at fault. If he was too much of a bitch to tolerate that then he could've just split up with her, it's not like she would've cared. We can find another thirstyboy to fuck in no time 💁 Fuck off with these circlejerk sadboy subreddits now, thanks 👏
[–]kylerc2004 74 points75 points76 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Good troll mate but what’s up? Bored? You’re all alone? Need a wee bit of attention?
[–]Krogs322 861 points862 points863 points 6 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit, someone is actually acknowledging that female-on-male abuse is even possible?
This I like.
[–]polomikehalppp 93 points94 points95 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is in Denver. I recognize that exact billboard location.
[–]kiwikoi 40 points41 points42 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why does the web address say New York?
[–]AuthorAlex 53 points54 points55 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because Willow is a series of domestic violence shelters in Rochester, NY. The actual addresses of the shelters aren’t publicized for safety reasons.
[–]5oDuce 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Woh, I never thought my home city would end up on the interwebz
[–]nimajneb -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not Denver..
[–]A_Shiny_Barboach 21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This... does put a smile on my face.
[–]ClonazolamIsMe 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's actually common, men just tend to be more resilient, so women get away with it more.
[–]Hayleyspantybitch 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
No shit! And when women abuse men the damages men incur are typically far worse. My main reason for saying this is because the guy has to care about the woman enough for her tears to convince him she’s not doing it on purpose. It’s a huge mind fuck!
I’m in an abusive relationship right now! This Bitch found out I was sexually abused as a child and am now bisexual as an adult. She discovered this by going through my phone without my permission.
I was seeing other people at the time and on some serious drugs, a big mistake. She leveraged her new knowledge about me to control me. She acted like she would be caring and loving, all while acting as the dominant in a BDSM relationship. But, as time went on I realized she was just using me. She has hit, punched, stabbed, kicked, pulled a gun out on me and ruined my professional career!
I was 6 months away from graduating when I tried to leave her after she became paranoid and suspected me of cheating. She battered the fuck out of herself! She ran herself into walls, furniture and even hit herself with her own fucking fists! She also attacked me but I have been in a few fights, so I can easily disarm her or defend myself. She even tried to gang herself in our closet with a computer charge cord. As I left with my mother; who I called because wifey was getting violent and we had only one car, the sociopath called the police and held a 9 minute conversation with 9-1-1 operators until police arrived.
I was charged with 2 counts. Attempted murder and assault. My life is ruined. I have bad knees from playing soccer and my criminal record is fucked! No one will hire you with that shit pending on your record, trust me! She has lied since and said that she Butt-dialed 9-1-1 and that hey just sent police over to question her. My attorney has given me the discovery for my criminal case. She lied to me about everything. She is still lying about everything. I stopped cheating but she didn’t get better. I stopped using drugs but she’s gotten worse. She tells me that I contribute noting and have contributed nothing financially to our partnership, but I’ve sold off thousands of my valuables to keep up with rent that she promised to cover! I sold my clean BMW, 2 assault rifles and a hand gun. Hindsight is 20/20 but damn I’m glad I sold those fuckers or I could be dead. I’m currently waiting for my appointment to speak to legal aide on the 19th and will be divorcing her ass! She had been abusive to my daughter and I would have left her then but if I did I would have gone to jail. It’s been a year and a half since she made false statements to police and I’m still facing the assault charge. The attempted murder charge has since been rejected by the D.A’s office for lack of evidence.
I’m not done! I said she stabbed me, remember? It was morning and we were staying at an Airbnb. She likes to have her little chihuahua in bed when we sleep. It’s fucking stupid. I don’t mind the dog but having it in our bed?! No thanks! So the dog gets up and clearly wants to go outside. I look over and nudge her, “hey take Chiquita out.” (Dog’s name is Chaquita Banana) She rolls over spitting venom, “shut the fuck up, Bitch!” I was surprised AF! I said, “oh hell no! I know you’re not talking to me like that! This is your responsibility!” She continues, “I’m fucking tired! I work to damn hard for you to treat me this way!” I despite the fact that she does nothing around the house and what she makes doesn’t pay our bills, I had no time to be surprised. The dog pissed and shat on our bed so I got up. This happened anytime I didn’t assume her responsibility for the dog. As I got up, so did she. Cursing and screaming. I was surprised she didn’t wake up our hosts with how loud she was. Then she came at me with fists clenched. She swung thrashed at me landing every blow with sloppiness. She could throw those grapes all day and get tired before anything more than a bruise would form, but that was enough for her to take things even further. My grandmother had just last away and left me a rusty, black letter opener featuring, ironically, 3 hearts in a row on the handle. [[<3 <3 <3||=====> wifey snatched the black blade and held it toward me with one whateverhand, and her other was balled up. She faked with the knife hand but I blocked her punch. She did it again but yielded the same result. I remember this like it was yesterday; on the third attempt, she faked with her fist and her real attack came from the hand with the blade. I blocked it just as I had before, but the blade sank into my forearm and slammed into my bone.
I immediately gave out a screech, “you fucking stabbed me! I can’t believe you fucking stabbed me!” She immediately stopped to look at her handy work. Skeptical of my injury she rolled her eyes, looked at it and said, “Whatever! You just need a band-aid. Quit crying! This bitch then went back to sleep while I fumbled around looking for something to apply pressure and stop the bleeding. I didn’t know what to do. I was in shock. Our hosts never came downstairs and I didn’t call the police. She got up 2-3 hours later after I found bandages but could not get the bleeding to stop. She eventually took me to the ER where I for some dumb reason lied for stupid ass. I was facing an attempted murder charge because of her lies, and my lies kept her out of jail. I regret hat decision more than any other during this whole relationship.
Now I’m collecting evidence with hidden cameras and recording devices. I hope to get out of this final assault charge and slap her with a divorce!
[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ahh I see you found my ex wife.
Please do the world a favor and toss her off a bridge.
[–]ISOanexplanation 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Jaysus man, I feel for you. The cards in general (criminal justice system, public and private support) are sooo stacked to protect women and blame men. Astounding how anti-male this “patriarchy” we live in really is.
[–]Hayleyspantybitch 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it’s utter bullshit! They scream victim and then turn out to be the snake in the grass: what’s worse? This bitch cheated on me after all anyway. Like I cheated, so there’s one strike. She has one for assaulting me on each occasion that it’s happened, so like 10 or 15 strikes for her, plus another big strike for ruining my life and having me charged, And another for each time she’s threatened to call police to lie again(since it went so well the first time), and another for trying to convince me that nonexistent of this would have happened had I not cheated. 🙇♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️
[–]Oni78 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry you had to go through all that bro.
Btw, you're damn sexy.
Lol thanks!
[–]Konato-san 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
"I stopped cheating" So you were cheating?? Bruh.
Edit: I'm definitely not saying that justifies what she did, but still.
[–]komay 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wouldn't you cheat if you were trapped in a relationship like that?
[–]Hayleyspantybitch 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You shouldn’t though. I appreciate your defense in me because it was easy to cheat because of her abuse, but I did not want to give her any more excuses, and I just wanted to be better individually
[–]Hayleyspantybitch 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She cheated too. My only crime was cheating and last I checked it’s not illegal. Are you trying to justify being stabbed and having my life ruined? That damage is way more lasting than my stupid affair. An affair that I admitted too and took responsibility for without making excuses. She lied and denied making a home call to 9-1-1 and when I get the discovery, it shows she had a 9 minute butt dial in which she falsely claims I assaulted her, bruh
[–]ThatAsianBoye 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Godspeed sir
[–]Papi_Ima 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you beat these charges man? How are you doing?
[–]nimajneb 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Willow is a great organization, they also provide lawyers and counseling for court, not just a safe space to escape a bad relationship. (It's local to me and I occasionally volunteer for them so I'm familiar with their mission)
[–]WarmCartoonist 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Likely targeted at lesbians, for whom the IPV rate is through the roof.
[–]Krogs322 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let me dream, dammit.
[–]TheLaughingMelon 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably the only time people realise that women are just as capable of violence as men are.
[–]fruxzak 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
TBH, this is probably targeted at lesbians.
Female on male violence is still a joke.
[–]Krogs322 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't ruin this for me.
[–]crazybychoice 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't say anything about males. Pretty sure I've read that there are high rates of domestic violence among lesbian couples.
[–]MidAirMan 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
We will really be somewhere when the police acknowledge it.
[–]Krogs322 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Give it 10 more years. 15 at the most. The more and more terrible things that keep popping up on the internet, the faster the pendulum will peak and begin to swing in the opposite direction. We're seeing more and more cases where the ol' "lie about rape so that some dude goes to jail" trick isn't working, and more and more people are calling bullshit on it. In fact wasn't there a court case where the judge ordered a false rape accuser to pay something like a million dollars because he felt this was a very serious charge and wanted people to think twice before they knowingly falsely accuse others? There is always hope. I am confident that I'll see major change in my life time.
[–]MidAirMan 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know if things will get better with virtue signalling and victim culture ramping up. We can pass all the laws we want, bad things will still happen. All we really need is for people to be kind and treat each other better. Instead the people making the most noise are not the most reasonable or intelligent people.
[–]leaves-throwaway123 813 points814 points815 points 6 years ago* (76 children) | Copy Link
I got attacked one night after finding evidence that my girlfriend at the time was cheating on me. I'm not going to claim I feared for my life or anything because of the size/strength differential, but rather the potential consequences of her lying about what happened. I told her I didn't want to talk to her and we might be able to talk a bit at a later time but at that point, I had a lot to process and facts were facts. She was super drunk and came at me slapping and pushed me against a door with a sharp piece of a window treatment that cut me up, along with her nails from the slapping/punching. She was trying to get me to fight back, and she later told me it was because in the moment, she was hoping I would lose my temper and hit her so she could have me arrested. That was the most terrified I've ever been, not because I couldn't fight back and easily get her off of me, but because it was an extremely small town and she had grown up with nearly every cop there - and she was the vindictive type and I could easily see her calling her cop buddies and accusing me of whatever she came up with on the fly, and my career and life as I knew it could have been over at that point. Thankfully I was able to get her to leave for the time being but still, super scary situation to be in and I feel for people who are in the same boat and can't see a way out of it. Good news is I have an amazing girlfriend now who I'll probably be marrying soon, and I'm friends with more cops than she is so I don't have to worry about it happening again
[–]Komraj 208 points209 points210 points 6 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link
What happened after? Did you end up telling anyone about what she did?
[–]leaves-throwaway123 342 points343 points344 points 6 years ago* (43 children) | Copy Link
She started dating the woman she was cheating on me with, and they are now married and living across the country, so apparently dating me is so bad that it turns you lesbian. I never told anyone about that night (aside from my current girlfriend and a couple of friends) and to my knowledge she never talked about it either, but who knows on that one. I still live in that same small town because my career is rooted just up the mountain, but now I know all of the local cops, sheriffs, troopers, county commissioners, etc. through work, and her reputation in town is shot (for unrelated reasons), so I have no doubt that if it ever came up I'd be the one they believed.
[–]Fr0styy_ 103 points104 points105 points 6 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
nice twist
[–]leaves-throwaway123 147 points148 points149 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
I'd like to think that she went with women because I'm the pinnacle of manliness and since she couldn't hack it with me she figured she needed to give up on men entirely. Unfortunately I don't think that's actually the case, so I have to endure quite a bit of ribbing from my buddies about that time I turned my girlfriend gay
[–]ShortWarrior 29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Lesbians have the highest domestic abuse rate.
[–]Harambeeb 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Imagine how angry short dudes are, now imagine they also don't have dicks.
That's how angry lesbians are.
This is true. They say it’s because this demographic has the fewest consequences to worry about in a physical altercation because the injuries sustained during woman on woman violence are thought to be less than between all the other combinations of demographics and this is something women can predict as their arguments escalate so they are most likely to allow it to get physical. Fun fact.
[–]Nuttin_Up 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Abuse amongst lesbians is more prevalent than in any other category.
[–]Handsome_Gourd 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don’t worry, it’s not just you. My s/o of 9 years (wife for 5) left me for a woman. It’s crazy but it just goes that way sometimes
[–]Komraj 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well let’s just hope they’ve changed for the better and you have a better future with your (hopefully) future fiancée
[–]Hotspot3 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think the more likely scenario is you've got some personality traits from your childhood that attract women like this towards you. Not your fault for how you were raised
[–]leaves-throwaway123 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There is much more to the story of that particular relationship, it was terribly codependent and extremely toxic right from the get go. But thanks for saying that, I’ve made my peace with it at this point
[–]PHYCOrouge 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahah I made her gay
[–]fat-lip-lover 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Taking the higher road over that psycho is one of the manliest things you could’ve done. Keep living pure, man.
[–]TheTimon 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what are the unrelated reasons?
[–]Crossfire0109 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, he just told all of us lol
[–]crossfit_is_stupid 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
That's the secret to life boys, make friends with cops
[–]leaves-throwaway123 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
It absolutely is, especially in a small town. I'm not saying I'm hoping to get away with murder because I'm buddy-buddy with law enforcement, but I will say I haven't had to deal with any speeding tickets for a long time, so that's nice. The good news is that even being such a small, rural mountain town, overall this place is pretty progressive, so we don’t have the racist, power-hungry, abusive cops that a lot of other towns like this might have. If we did I would definitely not be cozying up with them
[–]aaalexxx 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ashville?
[–]leaves-throwaway123 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, but you have the state correct, Much smaller and more rural mountain town than Asheville, but similar vibe with the younger generation of locals
[–]Jaktenba 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol, as if progressivism has anything to do with people being power hungry or abusive. Remind me again how many male feminists recieve accusations of rape.
[–]leaves-throwaway123 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel like you are fishing for an argument here but I’m not even really sure what you are trying to get up to be honest
[–]OneFineCantaloupe 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism = progressives now?
[–]JJisTheDarkOne 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's utterly shit mate. All I can hope is that your life is better than that utter cunts' life now.
[–]leaves-throwaway123 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m doing great. I hope she’s doing good as well. The last conversation we had was later that same year that we broke up, on Thanksgiving day, where she told me she hoped I choked on my turkey. No hard feelings, life’s too short to hate people
[–]pm_me_all_dogs 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You clearly haven’t heard of the Duluth model. Basically if you called the cops and there wasn’t a scratch on her, they still take you to jail.
[–]emforay216 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Must be a shithole town if cops don't listen to you because they know the person you're accusing.
[–]leaves-throwaway123 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t know how it would have gone, that’s the point, I did not want to test the theory in the first place
Either way, if that concept shocks you, I’m assuming you have not spent much in small rural towns
[–]Crook56 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good move, because it would of and even if she dropped the charges they still would go after you. Plus all that money to defend yourself would go out the window.
[–]CouldWouldShouldBot 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's 'would have', never 'would of'.
Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!
[–]eccentricelmo 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For a good minute, I thought you copy pasted one of my old posts lol. Glad you made it out.
[–]Mo_Meant_M_On_YT 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My sister assaulted me and when i fought back i almost went to jail
[–]Hayleyspantybitch 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She probably lashed out for fear you would expose her sexuality
[–]leaves-throwaway123 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s a long story but I did not realize the person that she was cheating with was a woman at the time. I really don’t think that was a consideration either way, the area we live in, although a very rural small town, has a huge gay population and it’s not a big deal around here even to the very old and very religious folks
She did what she did because she was drunk and arguably not mentally stable. Like I said in another comment, I really do hope she’s doing a lot better now, her mother died a couple years before all of this happened and she was still not in a good place mentally as a result
You’re a good person. Don’t let experiences like that make you bitter. I suppose I should worry about myself. Lord knows bitterness is setting in for me.
That is such good news about your amazing girlfriend. You couldn’t be more correct about how her having lots of connections with the local cops could have ended your life. It can happen even if you are in a big city, like I was when it happened to me.
I’m a woman and I was a grad student positioning myself to apply for a doctorate in psychology at the same university. A local popular minister who had a PhD in psychology from that university offered to be my mentor but it was a set up to rape me. After he raped me, the police did not even question him because he had officiated most of their weddings, christened their children, and been friends with them for decades. They swept it under the rug entirely. The DA at the time was about to run for Governor and declined to prosecute all acquaintance rapes because they are hard to get convictions for, and they wanted a great conviction record when they ran for governor, so yes, your ex having connections with the cop would have ruined it. It ruined me as i was never able to recover from PTSD but I think the corruption of the cops played a part in things turning out so badly for me ultimately. If a modicum of justice had been pursued I would have felt much better. Do befriend the local cops whenever you can. I hope you are happily married now to your new girlfriend. You really dodged a bullet. I wish you the best. Maybe I can be happily married one day too.
[–]STCLAIR88 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes she was stronger
She did have some Appalachian Hill people strength floating around in her genetics, so I’m glad I didn’t get the chance to find out for sure
[–]STCLAIR88 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
RKO was headed your way
Bah gawd
[–]darkjuly1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
A user asked if they accept donations. Yes they accept donations.
Here's the website posted in the image https://willowcenterny.org/
Numbers you can call or text 24-Hour Hotline (585) 222-SAFE (7233)24-Hour Text Line (585) 348-SAFE (7233)
[–]R____I____G____H___T 40 points41 points42 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Federally funded authorities should be able to arrest and lock up these women if they're breaking juridical laws in a relationships. Funding organizations shouldn't have to be required, if a police report has been sent.
[–]DerGsicht 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These organizations are there to raise awareness of an issue. In this case specifically trying to get victims to acknowledge and report abuse as abuse, which is often very hard for people trapped in toxic relationships.
Donating to organizations like this helps spread awareness which hopefully leads to more abusers being prosecuted.
[–]mgtowapprentice 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean by this? Like private police forces tasked with policing women in relationships who abuse their partners?
[–]Swifttree 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a good idea to have numbers to call for men and I wish I had something like this during the time I needed it most, but I've gotta be honest when I say that it's gonna take huge courage from men to call that number and admit they're being abused by their physically smaller girlfriend (or not so). I don't envy the guys that need to go down that road but I wish them strength.
[–]Throw0140 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How would we call if our phone only uses numbers?
[–]occasionally_dumb 412 points413 points414 points 6 years ago (56 children) | Copy Link
[–]notsuppostocomnt1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (38 children) | Copy Link
#mentoo
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[–]B4K3R2451 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (12 children) | Copy Link
Menthol
[–]04729_OCisaMYTH 36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Menstruate
[–]Brokenbalorbaybay 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Methamphetamine
[–]trenlow12 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]mattycmckee -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no, mento o
[–]Julianomaly1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
"Who says no to mentos?"
[–]deadleg22 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Me after anywhere that had free refills.
[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Why can't men just also use me too? It doesn't carry any implication of gender, and I feel like trying to co-opt it into something specifically for men would come off as trying to detract from the movement, similar to all lives matter
[–]Quadip 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't carry any implication of gender
Why do people get anal about wording when it come to supporting men but defend wording when it's exclusive to them. If it was #womentoo it would be defended to no end and anyone who disagreed for it being "gender exclusive" would be labeled some misogynist incel who must hate women.
And it's ironic you use ALM as an example when one of their arguments is BLM very name makes it seem ethnic exclusive. which is what you are arguing. ALM is bad because it used by racists to undermine BLM. But what if it was a group of minorities who wanted to be noticed also for their problems they also face at the hands of authority figures? would you say those minorities are undermining BLM for wanting their problems to be noticed also?
[–]_Sinnik_ -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Edit: Here's a counterexample to yours. If a woman retweeted the above picture with a caption, something like "HE hit me." I would expect a lot of backlash by people rightly assuming this person is attempting to suppress the very important message in this photo. Although, I suspect they wouldn't get as much backlash as if the roles were reversed and a man were attempting to suppress the women's equivalent. This is wrong, obviously, but is also part of the process of shifting cultural attitudes. You get people that take it too far as the pendulum swings.
Original Comment:
I hear what you're saying, but it has to do with the assumed underlying motivations for whatever terminology is being discussed. "All Lives Matter" isn't wrong inherently, but it is when it's used specifically as a method of undermining black rights issues, which is almost exclusively how it's used.
If it was #womentoo it would be defended to no end and anyone who disagreed for it being "gender exclusive" would be labeled some misogynist incel who must hate women
Perhaps, perhaps not. But the reason this might be the case is that women have historically faced opposition (predominately by men) to every single movement they've initiated to empower themselves. So when a movement finally comes about to draw attention to the rampant and pervasive sexual abuse that women experience, it's extraordinarily suspect when men want to take a piece of that pie for themselves. This is obviously understandable for anyone with a cursory knowledge of history.
Does this mean that men don't experience sexual abuse, or that we don't deserve to be supported when we do? Of course not. It also doesn't mean that every man who wants a #MenToo hashtag is obviously an incel or mysognist. But, depending on the context, it is extremely suspect in the current internet culture that is abound with actual mysognists and incels who attempt to blend in and subtly undermine women's movements.
The truth is, there just isn't as rampant or as effective/powerful of a women's equivalent to these MGTOW/Incel/Redpill types. These women are out there, but they just don't have the same historical success at suppressing men's movements. Typically when men want something in our world, it happens.
[–]Niko_47x 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure there was some outrage when men tried to use it (in a serious manner) back then. So it's really a lose lose situation
[–]MisplacedKittyRage -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Men have used #metoo i believe. People who separate men and women in this situation might be either ignorant of this or like you said trying to minimize the intention of the movement.
[–]Captain_Arzt 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Trying to minimize it? We're being completely ignored by the movement and only given passive attention so they look like they care.
Us splitting off might actually garner a greater base for it as a whole, as opposed to us staying in an extremely unappealing proverbially 'abusive' relationship where we only get ignored and insulted, and very occasionally complemented so the abuser can't say they 'only' ignore and insult.
[+]notxcrazyhorse -9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Because men doing it belittles the whole movement
[–]OmegaXesis1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Because men obliviously can’t get raped.
[–]M_Brambo 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
This is a good one.
[+]FinancialRaise -17 points-16 points-15 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Ah... The all lives matter to black lives matter. Lol nice
[–]Quadip 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
how so?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Because #MeToo has been about generalized abuse, and even Terry Crews was repping it for men since it started.
Black Lives Matter started as a movement to limit the power of the police state, and people started using All Lives Matter not as a means to change police violence in their own community, but to tell black people to sit back down. It wasn't a movement at all, just a meme to imply BLM failed because it wasn't inclusive enough for white people (it was, as a white people who was involved in BLM protests.)
[–]Loktarian -4 points-3 points-2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think he means that most of our community will not treat it seriously just like all lives matter was ignored by masses.
[–]Skvinski 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bruh metoo isn’t women exclusive
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Skvinski 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bruh
[–]Dorinus2 81 points82 points83 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
They accept donations?
[–]GameSeed 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dorinus2 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Done. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1706/cPRm87.jpg
[–]AddictedReddit 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who tf still uses imageshack?
[–][deleted] 61 points62 points63 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Equality!
[–]IlIllIIllIIlIlIlIllI 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
When people ask me if I'm a feminist, I say I'm an egalitarian, so I get disappointed looks.
I'm starting to get why.
[–]TheLookoutGrey 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Who is asking you so often if you’re a feminist?
[–]RandomGuyWithSixEyes 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Peoples in his head
[–]deadleg22 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably has a shirt with a some kind of hashtag on.
[–]Roary93 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Male privilege! Have to stand there and be belted and can't retaliate or you get arrested.
[–]TerraceWindsor 50 points51 points52 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
In the process of getting a divorce after my soon to be ex tried to smash my face in with a chair. I had never been more scared n my life and also knew if I even tried to defend myself I would likely end up "the aggressor". 8 months later what happened still freaks me out, and I'm not helped by some people who have laughed at what happened. The world can be a weird screwy place...
[–]PilthyPhine 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good luck to you and don’t be afraid to talk about your experience, abuse is abuse and it can leave trauma.
[–]DeadlyNuance 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Have you gone to therapy? Don't forget to take your mental health seriously after a highly traumatic event like that. I know everyone else has minimized it but this WASN'T some small laughable event, it was a highly traumatic event.
[–]TerraceWindsor 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks I go to therapy every other week, it helps keep me in decent spirits but the weight of that situation still sits heavy with me.
[–]MisplacedKittyRage 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m sorry this happened to you. I hope you’re in a better place now.
[–]jackishere 44 points45 points46 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
A lot of people here saying if they hit you you shouldn’t hit back anyways but someone like me I’m a very skinny guy, if a girl hit me I would feel justified in hitting back to defend myself based on my size
[–]Quietsquid 58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's not "don't hit back because they're weaker" it's "don't hit back because the laws are one sided against men and you'll get arrested for defending yourself"
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
The status quo will continue if men don't fight back
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
is it really worth endangering your future life?
[–]Phaedrug 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh, tbh I’d be deciding in the heat of the moment, so possibly.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can ask that question of anyone who's ever risked it for anything including U.S fighting the British. The Canadians defending their territory against the U.S. If you just roll over at the slightest hint of risk then you'll be fucked. Fight back reasonably, i'm not advocating beating women (or anyone) to a pulp but don't let them be hitting you and just getting away with it because you are afraid of a charge. The day this bias ends is the day you'll thank those who had the gall to fight back and fight the system.
[–][deleted] 131 points132 points133 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Abuse is abuse....let’s talk about it. [feminist then walks into the room] “you hate women”.
[–]DeadlyNuance 52 points53 points54 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
-be me, identify as feminist
-still capable of caring about & acknowledging male victims of domestic violence
-actually spends time advocating for better mental health care for men because of concerning suicide rates among them, this is an issue I deeply care about as my own husband and brother both suffer with depression/anxiety
-tries to be an ally to men but women who suck already ruined it so they assume I hate them based on me identifying as a feminist
-women who suck profit by keeping reasonable men & women further divided, preventing true equality from being reached because we waste our time competing with one another rather than working together
Yayyy.
[–]vincentpontb 25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
The need for a new word other than feminism is strong; it does sport one sex in the word, people are always going to assume it's a movement for women rather than both sexes (equality).
Identifying as a feminist is always going to sound like you're against men, sadly.
People have suggested time and time again something like equalism or whatever. It would fix so many problems. From just a word and no other change...
[–]DeadlyNuance 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. I think one of the problems is that a lot of feminist ideas originate in academia. I became a feminist in college after being exposed to writings and theories of actual feminist scholars who say reasonable things, not random Tumblr girls using "feminism" as an excuse to be petty or discrimate against men. I think a lot of very smart and reasonable people become feminists this way, their first introduction to feminism is something reasonable and thus it doesn't even occur to them why others would associate the random Tumblr girls with feminism; they clearly have perverted its principles. They have a hard time ever accepting those girls as feminist in the first place, so they think the solution is just to ignore them. Clearly that isn't the solution, as things are only getting worse. But academia can also be very set in its ways so it would take a LOT to get a "rebrand" from that level, which is where I feel we need it.
Funny story about that though, I actually founded a group in college of "feminists" that we rebranded as "students advocating gender equity" which obviously is a mouthful and not very catchy hah. But my advisor actually did want to be conscious of not excluding men, so at least you know things are already shifting even in academia.
[–]Wandering_P0tat0 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Equalitarian is the term to use.
[–]Wandering_P0tat0 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or Egalitarian. Either ir
[–]PushEmma -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope, feminist is needed cause its to acknowledge the systematic issues that puts the man in a privileged place thus affecting society, particularly women. Equalitarian doesn't talk about this view particularly, who isn't in favor of equality wtf. If you want you can call yourself a feminist and a equalitarian.
[–]vincentpontb -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism IS for both sexes. I'm suggesting the name be changed. Contrary to what we all think, it is as much a movement for men as it is for women.
I know the word equalitarian exists; I'm implying it should replace feminism, completely.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This hasn't been true, in my experience. It doesn't matter if we're using the words feminism, equality, equity, anti-racism, justice, humanism, etc, because people will still intentionally misunderstand the discussion or derail it because of their own warped perspectives. The words we use have never been what stops people from communicating charitably with respect for the dignity of the people on the "other side."
[–]vincentpontb 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't get the point you're trying to make.
[–]LaCipe 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Equalist is the word. If I am not completely wrong its gender neutral and actually expresses what normal feminists are about.
[–]vincentpontb 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism is gender neutral. It's the movement for both sexes. Supposed to be by definition, sadly badly named
[–]UrHeftyLeftyBesty 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Second-wave feminism was a legitimate egalitarian movement that sought to improve the rights of women, not in comparison to men, but for the sake of women. If it weren’t for the obsession with hegemonic femininity and the failure of the movement at large to acknowledge the need for what would later be termed “intersectionality” (at least before it was too late), second-wave feminism would’ve been the stepping stone toward true equality.
But I think, as a lot of people and institutions started to embrace that equality, it became clear that seeking legitimate enfranchisement, autonomy, and eventual liberation meant giving up privilege and that terrified a lot of people. Hence the birth of third-wave feminism, which, instead of seeking to improve the rights and position of women, seeks to abolish the hegemony masculinity, while maintaining the privileged position of women by taking a post-structuralist view of gender that traditional femininity is merely a response to hegemonic masculinity (which, of course, it’s not).
The obvious result was creating the “raunch culture” of the hyper-sexual “liberated” woman, which, instead of lifting women for the sake of lifting women, sought to redefine femininity by emulating the worst aspects of hegemonic (now known as “toxic”) masculinity.
And now we’re into fourth-wave feminism (also known as tumblr/twitter feminism), which is just third-wave feminism but focused on quashing and limiting debate, rejecting structuralist feminism altogether, and insisting on the use of digital modes of communication. Again, the obvious result being “rich white girl” feminism with the thought leaders being wealthy, largely white, and entirely disconnected from reality.
So the current waves of feminist thought and theory aren’t progressive egalitarian movements at all, they’re regressive. The word feminist doesn’t mean what it did when the feminist movement was about elevating women. The new ideas and ideals are toxic. They’re harmful. Identifying as “a feminist” since the onset of the third and fourth waves really means, more than anything, that you embrace misandry. Supporting women’s rights and autonomy and supporting the enfranchisement and liberation of women is no longer called “feminism.”
[–]ArthurJanusMcline 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/
Practically everyone of these quotes co ea from a prominent second wave feminist, please don't tell me that it had any legitimacy to it
[–]UrHeftyLeftyBesty 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Rekt3y 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even the name "feminist" is sexist. It should have been equalist and the two groups of women you mentioned would be thoroughly separated
[–]Phaedrug 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yay for them, but fuck em. I realized if they don’t want my help then they can rot. I’m not gonna do anything to hurt the cause, and I’ll keep voting, but fuck em, I’m not wasting my time if I’m judged for other people’s actions.
[–]CDBaller 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The correct response is: "not as much as you do."
[–]bettywhitefleshlight 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Speaking out about female-on-male abuse is an attempt to take power away from women. In case anyone needed to ponder why a "feminist" might feel that way. It's in the same vein as paternity testing at birth being anti-women because it takes away a woman's ability to lie about who the father is.
No bitch I hate you, now get the fuck out.
[–]DamnYouRichardParker 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My first year highschool history teacher left school one day. A few months back he came back to school and explained to us what happened.
His wife, a 300 pound woman, him a 90 pound man. She was extremely abusive to him. She abused him physically and verbally...
One day he left her after she blocked him from going out of the garage by blocking the door because she was upset he didn't take out the garbage...
He called the cops on her several times but nothing ever happened. Cops used to ridicule him for no being a man...
After that time when she locked him in the garage, he managed to have her arrested and pressed charges for forceful incarceration and physical abuse because his neighbour testified for him...
Pour guy, he was such a great teacher
[–]darthjeffrey 48 points49 points50 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When you call that number, it is just a recording that says "Hit that bitch back."
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I want to believe you but not sure if I can
[–]Edgemonger 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only one way to find out
[–]dislexi 33 points34 points35 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was hit twice by my then girlfriend, each time I knew it was wrong for her to do that but I just didn't know what to do. It wasn't until years later that I understood that a lot of other people had the same thing happen to them and struggled just as much to stand up to it. She ended up dumping me later, which took me a long time to recover from. Years later I watched this video and it really made it easier to understand my actions I watched this TED Talk and thought you would find it interesting.
Leslie Morgan Steiner: Why domestic violence victims don't leave http://go.ted.com/Tj3Nxg
Learn more about watching TED Talks on all of your favorite platforms: https://www.ted.com/about/programs-initiatives/ted-talks/ways-to-get-ted-talks
[–]i_dunno_how_to_type 66 points67 points68 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sbeve
[–]NoLongerUsableName 24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
only once
[–]SwitchCaseGreen 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is one of the first times I've seen public acknowledgement that men may also be victims of DV. It's about time we recognize that fact.
[–]not-a-cheerleader 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i know this isn't funny, but my dyslexic self read "shit me"
[–]dasehh1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
My mother has hit me, screamed at me, broke me down etc. on many occasions. I grew up terrified of her, but it never really occurred to me that it was abusive until years later. I think it was because of this stereotype that women can’t be abusers. I wish I’d gotten out sooner lol
[–]DatBoiGames 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hope you’re doing better these days
[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another reason is that it's hard to kmow you're in an abusive situation when you're in it, I would know too.
[–][deleted] 118 points119 points120 points 6 years ago (90 children) | Copy Link
Now watch as some Feminist C*nt tries to crawl up there to deface it or try to rip it down.
[–]gamerhugo07 29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Funny to watch surely.
"Sexual equality" I see that, yes
[–]DesperateSomewhere1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
the sign may be in reference to lesbian relationships.
“The [US] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey reports on the lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner, focusing for the first time on victimization by sexual orientation. It finds a victimization prevalence of 43.8 percent for lesbians, making it the second most affected group after bisexual women (61.1 percent), ahead of bisexual men (37.3 percent), heterosexual women (35 percent), heterosexual men (29 percent) and homosexual men (26 percent) …”
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know... you MAY just be right about that! That billboard has been known about for almost a full year (can't say if the same sign is still there or not, I don't know), but that just might be the reason why there have NEVER been any reports of any sort of a backlash against it from "Women's Groups" in all of this time! EXCELLENT SPECULATIVE THEORY! I was slow to consider that as a possible explanation. Good Job!
[–]Jackretto 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Tries being the key word. I doubt trigglypuffs can even climb a set of stairs, let alone a billboard
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tries being the key word.
Yes indeed, Jackretto. I was careful to word my comment VERY carefully and deliberately in including that little "conditional."
[–]foede34tre 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (63 children) | Copy Link
Supporting men isn't the same as hating women, dude. Please chill.
[–]PushEmma 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What kind of people do you think this sub attracts?
[–]foede34tre 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, I'm realizing. This was on the front page so I commented as I was scrolling by. It's like a den of horny self-righteous anger.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dudes that have been abused and are not fully believed or are mistreated by more women afterwards should feel anger.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (59 children) | Copy Link
I'm not the one who needs chilling: it's these man-hating harpy Feminists who screech to high heaven any and every time ANYBODY attempts even in the smallest of ways to call attention to Men's & Boys' IGNORED or swept-under-the-rug problems and issues! It's NO SECRET they do this sort of thing ALL of the Time! And yet they have the utter gall to bloviate about how "Feminism" is about and for "EQUALITY" of the sexes!
Strawman
(Translation: "Cannot Refute the EVIDENCES Presented.")
[–]whatever_yo 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're incorrectly grouping all feminists under a very small category of "feminist" (the man-hating harpy ones). Most feminists want nothing to do with them and see them just as you do.
Most feminists want men to feel comfortable about being able to talk about their issues. That's literally what toxic masculinity is about. It's not saying you're toxic for being a man, it's saying that that feeling of needing to "man up" or hide your issues for fear of being seen as a pussy is toxic. And they're right. It is.
Most feminists want men to feel comfortable about being able to talk about their issues.
That's BULLSHIT! Because the moment "Feminists" come to the painful and rude awakening that not only is "Feminism" anti-MEN but is also, even more so, anti-WOMEN, these "Feminists" all become Once-Upon-A-Time "Feminists" ("FORMER" Feminists). I've already given you the major-name examples of ERIN PIZZEY [the FOUNDER of the "Battered Women's Shelter Movement"], of CASSIE JAYE [the DOCUMENTARIAN who deliberately attempted to produce a rabidly "Pro-Feminist" and scathingly anti-Male "HIT PIECE" against the so-called "Men's Rights Movement(s)], and premiere Former "Male Feminist" Dr. WARREN FARRELL!
Also, I have seen/heard quite a number of instances where the "MRM" outright ADMONISH those who associate with their group(s) to tamp-down on the radicalism and extremism and vitriolic behavior towards Feminist gatherings ... I HAVE YET to see or hear as much as A SINGLE "FEMINIST" figurehead or ranking/prominent member to CHASTISE any one of the SCORES of instances where huge flocks of harpies from among their ranks do everything disrespectful and borderline VIOLENT against a "Men's Issues" gathering or conference-- public or private --OR "IF" they've ever done so, I've yet to see it with my own eyes or hear it with my own ears and I'll need to see/hear actual definitive PROOF of such a thing actually having ever been said or done by them!
We live in a sick MISANDRISTIC age where if some slimy creep of a Guy says something as relatively harmless as yelling to a woman, "Go make me a sandwich," he's excoriated all over the Internet ... where if a Male Astrophysicist wears a shirt featuring images of attractive young women (that was "CUSTOM MADE" for him personally by a FEMALE buddy of his) during one of the most historic moments in our conquest of Space, he's forced to appear on NATIONAL TELEVISION and sheepishly "APOLOGIZE" for his "insensitivity" because the image of YOUNG BEAUTIFUL ATTRACTIVE Women is excruciatingly "OFFENSIVE" to these "Women's Groups" that are overwhelmingly made-up of Old Unappealing Bitter Crones who resent that they themselves cannot "represent" like that ... where if a Man refuses to Work/Eat alone with a Female co-worker out of fear of being "#MeToo'd" he's called a Coward and/or a "Misogynist" trying to Protect the "Patriarchy" because he's just making excuses for why he won't "Mentor" upwardly-mobile Women, etc., etc., -- AND YET, "Feminists" can dance proud and UNMOLESTED/UNCHALLENGED when they buy their Little Daughters T-shirts with such "empowering" messages such as, "BOYS ARE STUPID, THROW ROCKS AT THEM," while they casually sip away at their lattes in their oversized coffee mugs emblazoned with the slogan, "MALE TEARS" covering the entire surface area, on their way to "Tech Conferences" where they're waiting for the opportunity to jump down some Man's throat and embarrass him all over the world in an Internet viral video campaign because she'd just happened to be within "EARSHOT" of him telling his friend sitting next to him in a crowded auditorium a somewhat racy but entirely innocent "DONGLE" joke!
In my usual capacity, I'm normally telling Conservobot knuckle-draggers to "Turn-Off FOX NOISE!" ... but in the cases such as those you're adhering to and attempting to push forward, to YOU I'm saying: "TURN-OFF BSNBC!"
[–]Lupinefiasco 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
You're conflating feminism with misandry; no true feminist would build women up by putting men down.
Incidentally, caps and bolded words don't strengthen an argument.
[–]ArthurJanusMcline 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk, these quotes from prominent second wave feminists doesn't seem support your claim
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
"Feminism" is at its HEART "Misandry," thus the terms are INTERCHANGEABLE.
Also... "no true feminist" would EVER be a "Feminist"!
And regarding my "typing style"... PLEAAAAASSSEEE Tell Me SOMETHING that I haven't already been told TEN ZILLION TIMES ALREADY which CLEARLY! I don't give TWO SQUARE FUCKS ABOUT!
[–]Damanzi1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
[–]VegetableEar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I think the bigger problem is men don't know how to talk about men's issues. Especially with vulnerability being a 'weakness' in men and that you've got to man up, be a real man, men don't cry, be stoic. Etc etc.
I think men want women to talk about their issues instead of having the strength to be vulnerable.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Here's the sad and tragic paradox of all of that, Vege... We've recently been living in a time where men were practically brow-beaten to the point where they were relentlessly "ENCOURAGED" to be more "open" and "feeling" and all that "emotions-on-your-shirtsleeve" doo-dah stuff -- but of those Men who "TRUSTED" that the concerns were genuine and thereby DID decide to heed the call and attempted to express their feelings of pain and inadequacy, along with their legitimate and heartfelt grievances, they were just as quickly [and quite VICIOUSLY] told to "SIT DOWN AND SHUT-UP! NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR NONE OF YOUR "MALE TEARS" MAN-BABY WHINING!" So in yet again making a noble attempt to "Give Women What THEY Want" in order to [try to] make them happy -- (as Men are essentially programmed to do) -- after all of the misguidings and misdirections and disrespects and outright emotional/psychological ASSAULTS Men have been fielding from uncaring and dishonest/disingenuous and entirely "SELF-ABSORBED" Women, Men today have turned to but the ONE area they have left to express themselves whereby they KNOW FOR A FACT they will at least be "HEARD," though almost certainly disregarded and rarely listened to... and that "One Place" that they can now (unfortunately) call their Own "Safe Space" (if you will) is their SHARED "ANGER" that they experience as a collective. It has become so overpowering that quite a significant number of Men are moving beyond just "venting" and are actually using their anger and frustration with the "Game" as fuel to take a course of "Action": some refer to this phenomenon as the "Red Pill Rage," and it has become part of the foundation that has spurred the 21st-century "Neo-Bachelor" societal expectations Drop-Out movement commonly referred to as, MGTOW ("Men Going Their Own Way").
[+]trenlow12 -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Please provide a single example if feminists sweeping a men's issue under the rug.
[–]1998_Sunrise_Inc 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
www.realsexism.com
Also, how many female rapist teachers are actually called rapists in the news? None. They're called "seducers"
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW??? GOOD LORD, MAN!!!! WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN?????!!!
Tell you what... I'll make this REALLY EASY for you:
(1) Go out and get (order, buy, beg, steal, or borrow) from somebody/somewhere and READ Dr. WARREN FARRELL-- a former board member of the New York Chapter of "NOW" (or "National Organization for Women," as if you didn't know) --particularly his book: "THE MYTH OF MALE POWER".
(2) Purchase/Rent the DVD/BD or Stream online the CASSIE JAYE documentary: "THE RED PILL" -- which she'd begun working on WHILE SHE WAS A FEMINIST with the admitted intent of creating a character assassinating "HIT PIECE" against ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING having to do with the so-called "MEN'S MOVEMENT," "MEN'S & FATHER'S RIGHTS," and anything else relating to "Men's Issues" and calls for FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT and JUSTICE, only for her to conclude by making a COMPLETE 180-degree turn to where she decided that she would NO LONGER associate with the Feminist movement after she saw the Bitter Truths of who and what "Feminists" really are (and more importantly, what they ARE "NOT") and how their agenda was based on demonizing and hindering Men and Boys at every turn, and what the "Men's Movements" TRULY were (and were "not") with HER OWN previously BIASED by later CLEANSED EYES!
(3) Then when you've got the extra time, listen to the personal story of ERIN PIZZEY, the WOMAN who is credited as the FOUNDER of the "Domestic Violence Shelter Movement," and listen to her tell of the experiences she personally had to endure at the hands of the "FEMINISTS" who had at one time PRAISED her as one of their icons... UNTIL she began suggesting that "MEN" are almost just as likely to be victims of Domestic Violence from their "FEMALE" intimate partners and were thus likewise deserving of Help! (Oh! And just wait until you get to the parts where she speaks about all of the threatening phone calls she'd receive from her supposed "Sisterhood," how she's had speaking engagements cancelled or postponed due to BOMB THREATS from members of her supposed "Sisterhood," how her children were constantly harassed and threatened with violence because of who their "Mum" was, how her Dog was murdered by the women who had at one time called her their "champion," and how, as the ultimate humiliation, "MEMORY HOLED" her from any mentions at all of her involvement in establishing that very FIRST "Battered Women's Shelter" which STILL EXISTS AND OPERATES to this very day!
That ought to keep you busy for a while. Now go LEARN something!
[–]PigBeenBorn 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Have you been living under a rock for the past few years?
[–]LucienChesterfield 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Are you blind or something ?
[+]enewman4 -6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I’m pretty sure most feminists don’t want women hitting men either...
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Then you HAVEN'T been paying attention!
[–]the-jds 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Apparently enewman4 missed those "KILL ALL MEN" feminist out there.
[–]capitalcitygiant1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Apparently you missed the part where he said MOST feminists.
[–]Bjumseskat 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thats not feminists, thats twatwaffle cunts pretending to be feminists
[–]ArianaFan224 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
I'm a feminist in that I support equal standards in men and women. Women face a lot of discrimination and bigotry in today's society and it doesn't get highlighted a lot in the back and forth between the matriarchs and the patriarchs of the world. I don't support a reversal of roles, I support equal roles for each gender. It isn't that hard. edit: triggered? lmao. Somebody who has an issue with my comment, PLEASE, reply with your argument against me. I'd love to see one.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You haven't met many feminists have you?
[–]CopyX 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah shit this is what the sub is real about. Thanks man
[+]nonamefounder -26 points-25 points-24 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
You are the cunt in here mate. You were the first one who started crying. Not them. Check yourself mate.
EDIT: Downvote me all you want. I dont like those "feminazis" either, but i wouldnt start crying "those damn feminists will come in a bitch about this" as soon as you see a post like this. You are not better then them in that moment.
Even r/PussyPassDenied is home to a bunch of excuse-making SIMPS making it rain with "Pussy Passes" of their own, I see. Oh, the bitter IRONY!
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why do you care so much about downvotes?
[–]nonamefounder 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't, but getting down voted just puts my post to the bottom where almost Noone cares to open it. And neckbeards, like the one I answered to, think they are right with their actions. I just wanted to say that "doin the same to them as they do to us" is exactly what they are doing currently and we should know better. That's why I said, downvote me as much as you want, im still right in what is said and those down votes do not lower the value of my comment.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh I see. Well here is your attention. I hear you.
[–]Wendingo7 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Knock a bitch out. Simple solutions to simple problems.
[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
found the caveman
[–]Wendingo7 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
All critical but where's your solution?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Honestly don't even know where to begin. Your comment in a post titled "abuse is abuse" is to knock a bitch out, what am I missing here, have you even sat down for a second to think about what you are actually arguing? I should swing by your cave and hand paint you a picture. Clearly you have also never actually been in this situation if this is your "solution."
[–]Wendingo7 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't require this solution, I have natural physical prowess and exude danger. So you do paintings?
[–]Iconoficons 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I had a chick I discovered cheated and I dumped her right on the spot her response was to tell anyone and everyone I had abused her (especially the new guy she found)even though I was able to prove I never touched her because I never had.
Started getting death threats, although they stopped when her new bf (the guy making them) caved the side of her face in and got arrested for it.
Then she tried being friends with me again because she was pregnant and alone with her real abusers child, nope......
[–]DoveesBloodyBear 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't know if this is PPD but it should be everywhere.
This is what ppd is supposed to be
[–]Kahnonymous 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not, it's just using a different pronoun. If it was "He only hit me once" it'd be the same point: abuse is abuse.
Top comments are along the lines of "hit the bitch back", ok, so now both parties are abusive. Just get out. It doesn't matter if you're a man or woman or non-binary, nor which your abuser is, just get out.
[–]MisplacedKittyRage 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of the scariest times in my life was when my brother was with his psycho ex-girlfriend. She manipulated him into cutting contact with us, deleted his email account, made him sleep on the floor and without food as “punishment for being bad” whatever that means. Tore off his clothes and shoes and threw them out. Threatened him with a knife, cut his face and body in many places. The only reason we found out is because they ran out of money so his gf decided hitting us up for money was the best idea, so she started sending us threatening messages, and pictures of my brother with his face cut up and really nasty insulting messages about why my dad left her and us. He was in a different country than us and we didn’t know where he lived, so even when we got embassies and consular services involved we couldn’t find him. Thankfully he decided to escape, but he lost all his belongings in the process plus the money he had saved to move to a new country. I am glad he is doing okay now but that was legitimately one of the worst times of my life. I’m sure he felt that even more.
So signs: if a friend or relative cuts off contact after say moving in with a partner, or is more standoffish than usual, if you see physical signs of things not being well, maybe then its time to have a sensible conversation with your loved one. Women can 1000% be abusive to men, and not just emotionally.
All of this I say as someone who considers herself an actual feminist, but bad people exist everywhere and abuse is a lot more complex than just getting hit. You’re not a good person because you have ovaries and bad because you have a penis. That line of thinking only perpetuates situations in which people get hurt and stigmatized.
[–]HillarysHitman 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This was my ex. I would like to think I’m a pretty normal, easy going guy. And all my friends agree. I never cheated or even talked to any other women, however she always came up with something for me to apologize for. Whether it be me smoking a cigarette before dinner, or me crating her puppy during the day who had just chewed up my couch. She would get to drinking and fly off the handle, there was no calming her down, and she’d punch me or push me and leave the house, drive drunk and then send nasty texts to me. She would personally insult me and talk bad about myself, my job, and my family. From the start she said she dated a guy who beat the ever loving shit out of her, then i found out she still was contacting him and it was my fault, because i was “an asshole”. The next day she would always act like everything was fine and that i should be the one apologizing. She would find one small minute detail in everything i told her and then try to poke holes in my story to where i couldn’t keep up. I finally kicked her out and ended up having to block her on all platforms after she threatened to call the police on me for “stealing from her” aka she left her laptop at my house, and then freaked out on my at a bar we were at, threw my keys across the street because she thought i was making fun of her cousin. It was toxic all around.
[–]ellingw17 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's great that abuse of men is being acknowledged in public like this. Not making a big point out of the different pronoun. Just using it like how it should be. This is how you spread awareness
[–]MeatSounds1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
She hit me....and it caused me to get a boner.
[–]Jackretto 37 points38 points39 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ThAt'S cAlLed RaPe. YoU rApEd HeR
[–]Jls_69 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good to see Rhett and Link are spreading awareness
Nice to see that it isn’t “he hit me”
[–]Cyrino420 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hit her back once, problem solved.
[–]StacySaysHarmony 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But not with your fists.
Better when reality smacks them in the face.
Boy, do I have some really good revenge stories...
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When I turned 18 my father allowed me to ask any question I wanted, but I had to hear his side of the story. So I obviously went for why it didn't work out between mom and dad. I knew the long story about them being young, alcoholics, and their love for the "hippy movement". I knew the story of my father cheating on my mom, but I got this gem instead.
"Your mother was abusive, so when you told me she hit you it devastated me. One night when she had caught me with another woman and confronted me in the kitchen. She was drunk and mad when it started to turn abusive. She was slapping at me and I got backed into the washer machine when she got in real close and whispered this, 'Go ahead, call the cops, they will never believe you.' "
That was the day my father left and never came back into my life until I was in 4th grade. I don't blame him, and partly why I am not married with kids. I don't want my mom to ever see the joy of her only Son hitting those land marks.
offtopic - I am currently evicting my mom out of my grandmothers house for the 3rd time. #NeverAgain
[–]Saul_T_Naughtz 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bullshit. Make her suffer from the outside looking in on your happiness. When she asks you why she's there. A simple, "I dont trust you to be around my kids because you are an abuser."
Live your life.
I am a pathetic human being, and this actually makes me feel good about not having kids. And honestly, do you think that someone who thinks like this should be raising kids? The answer to that question is NO!
[–]lostNtranslated 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This genuinely makes me sad. Even though it's statistically less likely for a woman to abuse a man, this should be more talked about! The fact that it's even on this sub, that women are excused for this behavior, is actually depressing. In my opinion this should be a no-brainer moment.
PS: female speaking here, not that it is of any importance
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Aye if that's the bar we're both goin to jail.
[–]Brokenbalorbaybay 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
snrk
[–]gladizh 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Unexpected Good Mythical Morning
[–]Annoyedgrunt69 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought this too.
[–]rakorako404 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have always been wondering how the fuck does one dial letters
[–]felipusrex 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The keypads have letters. You just use the button that have the letter you want to use.
[–]nobbynobbynoob 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mnemonic dialling. The corresponding letters are displayed on the numeric keys of your phone. The American (now standard) layout is:
2 = ABC; 3 = DEF; 4 = GHI; 5 = JKL; 6 = MNO; 7 = PQRS; 8 = TUV; 9 = WXYZ; 0 = Operator
The old British GPO layout was:
2 = ABC; 3 = DEF; 4 = GHI; 5 = JKL; 6 = MN; 7 = PRS; 8 = TUV; 9 = WXY; 0 = O
The above was used as the basis for many of the STD [area] codes when the STD long-distance self dialling was rolled out starting in 1958 (when the Queen famously made a phone call between Edinburgh and Bristol). While the codes have been changed since, most of the original mnemonic ones can still be seen as part of the whole, e.g. (0)131, whose 3 spells E for Edinburgh; (0)161, whose 6 spells M for Manchester; (0)1722, whose 72 spells SA for Salisbury; (0)1225, whose 22 spells BA for Bath; also, there are weirder contrived ones such as (0)1443 and (0)1446, whose 44 spells GG for Glamorgan, for example; and so on. (The codes introduced after about 1966 do not follow the mnemonic system, except perhaps by contrived coïncidence/accident.)
(But hey, we finally ditched the double-layered area codes and separate local-area shortcut tables, and the L-S-D currency system, perhaps for the worse because those were two extra things to confuse international visitors with. ;) Anyhow, I do digress.)
[–]rakorako404 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow thanks mate
I've always wondered that two until 2 years ago when I figured it out.
The numbers keypads have letters too like the other response to you said
[–]huxepenner 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Progress!
[–]avicioustradition 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s so nice to see things like this. Damn skippy, abuse is abuse.
[–]mrhoppy_ 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My ex used to hit me a lot, and was also incredibly emotionally abusive.
[–]mrmillan323 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I remember when my ex assaulted me, no matter what she did she wasn't actually going to physically hurt me with her hands but it's the fact that she tried to do her best to hurt me that freaked me out. I hope soon it will be socially acceptable to talk about how abusive women can be too.
[–]Palidupe 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was in an incredibly abusive relationship and not many people belive me cuz im a big guy, 6'3 bulky and she was much smaller but she was so in my head and would threaten suicide at the drop of a hat. It was horrible.
[–]Saul_T_Naughtz 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was right there with you. Batshit crazy whore I was with did the same shit.
Edit: Yeah it’s utter bullshit! They scream victim and then turn out to be the snake in the grass: what’s worse? This bitch cheated on me after all anyway. Like I cheated, so there’s one strike. She has one for assaulting me on each occasion that it’s happened, so like 10 or 15 strikes for her, plus another big strike for ruining my life and having me charged, And another for each time she’s threatened to call police to lie again(since it went so well the first time), and another for trying to convince me that none of this would have happened had I not cheated. 🙇♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️
[–]Dashaquavius 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Had an abusive ex girlfriend. This... does put a weak smile on my face.
[–]nannotyranno 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Blessed Sbeve
[–]AgitatedGold2 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My ex wife was abusing me, mostly verbally, sometimes hitting me... I could never hit back, she was a tiny woman and I am 6ft3´. One day I snapped and hit her back straight in her nose causing it to break (alot). Surgery was needed. She left me and filed a bunch of charges. The charges were eventually dropped because I filed charges on her as well and my sister once witnessed the psycho hitting me. Best thing to happen to me EVER. I now live with a normal human being. So my advice, hit back once (make sure to gather some shit on here before that, record etc). it will be enough (sorry for my crappy english)
[–]Trashman2500 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only good post on this sub.
[–]JowellXReddit420 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She (only) hit me (once)
S B E V E
[–]McBlemmen 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can't tell if the stripes were painted on afterwards or if they are part of the sign.. because it looks so poorly done
[–]SkillfullKing88 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since the color matches some parts of the sign i think they are part of the sign
[–]ClaSher0082 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did not hit her I did not hit her
Oh hi mark
[–]paranormalmb 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wonder how many people were pissed off at this sign.
[–]Iconoficons 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read the thread and you’ll get a general idea.
[–]StanleyOpar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She did not hit me. It's bullsheeut she did naaaut.
[–]misfitx 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's an excellent start. Emotional abuse is still largely ignored but small steps are important.
Where was this sign posted?!
You know what pisses me off about this sign? Why no area code? We live in a world of area codes since many people don't have "local" phones anymore.
Then I hit back and she realized man is stronger, woke up, apologized and it hasn't happened since.
[–]furrtaku_joe 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ok, but is it necessarily unhealthy for both partners to don protective gear and box in a gym a few times per year?
[–]GreenEyedFreak714 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
...and it felt like a kiss.
[–]enxoran 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just got out of a relationship like this. Feels so good to be free
[–]heathensam 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sub... Wtf...
[–]Everest-Gamer 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is this vandalized? Idk since the strike through color is the same as the logos color
Probly not vandalized
[–]chode_mcblob 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's all it took for me. My gf at the time got drunk again and started in on me with the shit talk guess she didnt like my replies to that cause she punched me in the head. Pepper spray is great takes the fight right out of em long enough to get the cops there and I walked away no trouble. Wasnt about to take that or wait till i snapped and get myself arrested
[–]crazyindian97 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys never hit a girl , even if she hit you never hit her back , it's a trap and I don't any of you guys in deep shit
Bdsm
[–]idan_da_boi 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you drop the Sun at “she” it would have been an Instagram quote
[–]i-am-a-guy-207 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen Brother
[–]GoodBoi_JStack -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think I’ve ever dated a girl who hasn't hit me. IMO, it’s not their fault. Women suffer from emotional outbursts because our society hasn’t trained them to control their emotions like they do for/to boys. Next time you wonder why men seem emotionally unavailable, remind yourself that we were made this way so that we wouldn’t lash out when we got angry. There’s a good reason for this. When men start swinging, people go to the hospital.
[–]Chuckbro 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're a sick person and you need to seek out emotional/psychological help from a professional.
[–]321_Ian_123 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't mean to be rude but you are the litteral definition of a cuck
[–]TheAlmightyPotatoMan 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Found the female abuser
[–]Nuttin_Up 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But what about the patriarchy? /s
[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
PATRIARCHY I NEED PUSSY PASS REEEEEEEEEEEE
[–]-sneezysour-1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
good thing I only date girls I can KO with a backhand
[–]Goblynminis1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
8 years olds?
[–]-sneezysour-1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
fuck you pedophile
[–]Goblynminis1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Says the beater pedo
[–]killerfrost86[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Talk? You mean insert her head through the nearest section of drywall
[–]MrsDwightKSchrute 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha. Sounds like something my husband would say.
[–]BMF2091 points 6 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Generally, the predominant offender in abusive relationships is male. The "She" in this sign could be indicating a mother's abuse of a child, or maybe, an attempt at political correctness.
[–]themolestedsliver 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Generally, the predominant offender in abusive relationships is male.
Uh, do you have an actual argument instead of just asserting sexism is the truth?
The "She" in this sign could be indicating a mother's abuse of a child, or maybe, an attempt at political correctness.
Nah it is clearly referring to domestic abuse which happens to men a lot more often than people give it credit for and your sexist "no it doesn't' Hardly changes that fact.
[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I can't see the og comment but that first quoted point you countered can be disproven by looking at the CDC who published an article stating that 70% of all non-recipricol abuse cases are perpetuated by women against men, and the reciprocal ones are about 50-50. From personal experience, I can attest to this.
[–]themolestedsliver 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry i quoted their entire comment because i am sick of people editing their comments or deleting them like they cowardly did here, so you didnt miss anything.
But yeah i know what they are saying is complete bullshit but i was curious if they had something deeper to say because i like watching ignorant sexist people flounder at their own ignorance.
[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was abused by my biological father physically and emotionally, but I was abused an equal amount emotionally by my step-mother. Abuse isn't gendered, the fact that some People are trying to make it gendered sickens me. No one has the right to you, but you. No one has the right to hit you unless it's legitimately self defense. No one has the right to bully you, belittle you, or make your life hell. No one.
[+]shivap111 -14 points-13 points-12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/sbeve
[+]OptimalBarley -67 points-66 points-65 points 6 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link
My ex swung at me maybe half a dozen times and landed a couple. It's not ok and she needs help but it's definitely not the same as if I'd done it to her. I think guys have more responsibility to "just leave" because there's less threat of being physically prevented from doing so.
[–]taws34 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
My ex swung shot at me maybe half a dozen times and landed a couple. It's not ok and she needs help but it's definitely not the same as if I'd done it to her. I think guys have more responsibility to "just leave" because there's less threat of being physically prevented from doing so.
You change one little word, and it makes the whole statement sound absurd. It isn't the one little word's fault. It's the entire statement.
Assault is assault.
[+]jonmlm -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
LoL.. change one little word by a fucking lot and it does sound absurd, you're right.
[–]taws34 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One action word describing violence for another?
Assault is assault is assault.
Don't be a douche and swing at other people.
[–]jonmlm -5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Was I wrong? You're talking about shooting someone with a gun, right?
[+]OptimalBarley -15 points-14 points-13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes if you change the words you change the meaning, that's how language works, good job.
[+]MrJagaloon -14 points-13 points-12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You change one little word numb-nut, and it makes the whole statement sound absurd. It isn't the one little word's fault. It's the entire statement.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well nah, because if she lands a few, you have a bruise. If you land a few, you're hauled off to prison for a few years.
[–]dvli 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dude, there is more than just getting hurt, is about the lack of respect your partner has for you, if people start beating the shit out of each other then that relationship is doomed.
[–]TheLookoutGrey -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s when you “just leave” the relationship
[–]dvli -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly.
Exactly, she hits you a few times you might get a bruise, but if you hit her a few times she would be fucking obliterated. Men are stronger and that's just biology.
[–]DemoniteBL 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
What about weaker men or stronger women? Your argument would only make sense if you disregard gender. Yes, women are weaker than men on average, but there are plenty of exceptions, so you can't just generalize it.
[–]OptimalBarley 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can and I did.
[–]DemoniteBL 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You sure did, that's probably why your comment got so many downvotes.
[+]GiantJellyfishAttack -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The amount of downvotes you are receiving for this really shows the lack of reality that people have on this subreddit lol.
[+]OptimalBarley -6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea I find it hilarious that the comments that got downvoted on this post are the guys who actually dated abusive girls.
[–]TheLookoutGrey -5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wrong sub for level-headed discussion.
[–]Ryan_2908 -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why is this downvoted?
[–]OptimalBarley 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My guess is because I implied women beating men is not equal to men beating women.
That would be correct, retard.
[+]HalfSoul30 -26 points-25 points-24 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
I agree with this. Totally wrong for her to hit me, but it doesn't really hurt, and doesn't emotionally mess me up. I may even forgive her quickly for it depending on the situation. Especially if alcohol is involved, because I have done things I wouldn't have if I wasn't drunk and I know that. If it is regular though, she gotta go. I understand everyone is different.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You're both worthless cunts.
[+]HalfSoul30 -10 points-9 points-8 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Why? I agree women should not hit men. I'm saying personally if it happens to me I can handle it. Should I be depressed and start calling myself a victim? Would that make you like me more?
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Why do you make excuses for an abuser?
[+]repfamafia -16 points-15 points-14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well said
[+]ImmersionVoidParagon -17 points-16 points-15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is probably meant for lesbians tbh
[–]ofdopekarn 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont know if your trolling or being serious
[+]johnnysteen -183 points-182 points-181 points 6 years ago (266 children) | Copy Link
I know women can certainly be psychologically abusive, but physically? Every woman I know hits because they have no control over their emotions...And I laugh whenever they do because it's like a mouse trying to hit an elephant.
[–]pinniped1 111 points112 points113 points 6 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link
Many (physical) child abusers are women.
[+]johnnysteen -82 points-81 points-80 points 6 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
I guess I should have been more precise then. My point is it's perfectly understandable why there's a double standard in this case. Hitting children or using weapons is obviously abuse. Hitting adult men, not so much. I get that feminists want to pretend men and women are the same, and it is funny to hold them to this, but I'm not going to pretend to be retarded just to do so.
[–]PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_ 38 points39 points40 points 6 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
i dont care if it isnt actually painful. i aint letting anyone hit me and neither should anyone else
unless you're into that sexually but thats a completely different story
[–]didnotreddit12 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Did you read that name down before hitting submit? Also I'll pm you my pussies sire.
[–]SmooveTrack 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Just because we're stronger doesn't mean we should let ourselves get hit wtf
[+]johnnysteen -12 points-11 points-10 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You don't know how to block?
[–]speeduponthedamnramp 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What an ignorant thing to say
[–]CaptainBrownhand 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Abuse is abuse
[–]johnnysteen 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
And murder is murder. And neither are what I'm talking about.
[–]Assagore 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You’re like the biggest retard in the world.
[–]johnnysteen 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because I'm saying men are not women?
[–]pinniped1 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The physical danger may not be the same but no one should have to put up with that shit.
[–]johnnysteen -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nobody is saying you have to put up with anything, it's a free country.
[–]j00sua 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (92 children) | Copy Link
that's still physical abuse?
[–]JwPATX 34 points35 points36 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah someone you love and trust trying to physically hurt you also has a psychological toll.
[–]literallynoclue 24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
My partner (female) has had several “episodes” of rage and anger where she has been overly drunk and gets extremely physical and mentally abusive. I put a lock on the bedroom door to keep myself safe where she has gotten knifes trying to hurt me. When I call the cops they turn up and she attempts to act as the victim but I have it all recorded from the start (close as I can get when I see the signs) But women can definitely be just as dangerous as anyone else and to think otherwise is just crazy IMO
[–]NigelPrufrockChumley1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
You'll have a much better life if you get out of that relationship now.
[–]literallynoclue 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Appreciate it and really believe that to be true but it’s been 10 years and I don’t know how to do that or how I would love without her, she hasn’t always been like this and I came from an abusive childhood so it pushes me away but still scared at the same time.
[+]Assagore -9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fuck you. You don’t know anything about their life to make that assumption you little asshole.
[–]Pimpinsmurf 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think we found their partner.
[–]AskYesus1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
You really need to remove yourself from that situation. You deserve better than her.
[–]literallynoclue 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s hard as I wrote in the other reply I struggle to understand what I would do without her it’s the good with the bad and we have taken steps to try and reduce the risk (she rarely to never drinks and hasn’t drank in excess in quite some time) Appreciate the concern though truly
[–]johnnysteen -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm not saying women aren't dangerous. I'm saying a woman hitting isn't dangerous, and you're trying to counter that with a woman getting knives. That proves my point.
[–]literallynoclue 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sorry, very good point, when she swings, she is still dangerous as I am not going to swing back I just try to de-escalate the situation but she’s still very strong and when she’s in a rage can still hurt me with her punches.
[–]johnnysteen -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're already talking about a woman who attacks you with knives though. That's insane. I'm not saying that's not abuse.
[–]Micha_Bell 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hitting is still hitting.
[–]justbrowsing0127 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Isn’t that why everyone hits?
[–]Estacon1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Right, the whole point of this sub is to say that you don’t get a free pass on being a horrible person who has no self control just because you’re a woman
[–]justbrowsing0127 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Right. And they shouldn’t. Regardless of how hard, hitting is hitting. They should be punished as much as any man. I read the comment as if the writer was somehow saying women hit because they don’t have control over their emotions, so it’s psychological abuse. But I feel like anyone who hits has poor control over their emotions.
[–]Estacon1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Yup! Vets who come back with PTSD and anger problems don’t get free passes so why would a fully grown woman who should now how to act like an adult
[–]johnnysteen 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not everyone hits, but all women do.
[–]justbrowsing0127 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope they learn to stop
[–]mynamesuckz 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That’s not always the case though, when was in my Early teens my best friends mother was a hot mess and when she got drunk she got abusive. She wasn’t a hitter she was a thrower ash trays glasses what ever she could hurl.
[–]johnnysteen -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's my point. Women hitting adult men isn't dangerous or out of the ordinary. Throwing ash trays at children is.
[–]mynamesuckz 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Abuse is abuse man it’s not right for either side. If you disagree let’s just leave it at that man it’s ok if you feel otherwise.
[–]johnnysteen -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Abuse is abuse. Being mercilessly pounded by a woman a third my size isn't abuse.
[–]SealTheHeavens 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It doesn't magically stop being abuse just because it doesn't hurt.
Also, how many abusive women do you know?
The abusive women I've known never hit. They channeled their wrath into psychological abuse while keeping their own cool so they could take the high ground.
[–]beautifulcreature86I am a lazy cunt so fuck you I ain't going anywhere 29 points30 points31 points 6 years ago (52 children) | Copy Link
Hey I’m a female and a golden gloves boxer. I bet I would beat your stupid ass. I also have flair on here given to me by a mod because I believe men can and have been raped or abused by women. It goes both ways and instead of being this pathetic troll that is honestly the root of issues on why men are too afraid to report abuse, you should go to another sub. Men are naturally stronger than women because of their human build. That does not mean that men are abusers. Men love just like women. We are equal in that sense. Stop being an insensitive asshole and try to see things from a different point of view.
[+]johnnysteen -23 points-22 points-21 points 6 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link
I'm not saying men are abusers. I'm saying a woman hitting a man without weapons is 99% of the time not physical abuse and could easily be solved by the man toughening up.
Weak men are the #1 complaint of women in the dating world today.
[–]InitialRequirement 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You are part of the reason that most people don't takes abuse and violence towards men seriously.
[–]johnnysteen -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I take it seriously, I'm just not absurd about it. If John Cena is complaining about Stephanie McMahon abusing him, she'd better have some seriously medieval tools to do it.
[–]IDislikeNoodles 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
No it isn’t lol. It’s guys with toxic masculinity like this.
[+]johnnysteen -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
They all say that until it comes time to stay up for sixteen hours to take care of them sick before going back to your normal job of carrying singles up ladders. Then if you complain you're a pussy.
[–]smartpoisoner 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So you want men to be punching bags?
[–]johnnysteen 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I want men to be men. Try dating an ethnic woman and then tell me how much of a pacifist she is.
[–]darkjuly1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link
I'm saying a woman hitting a man without weapons is 99% of the time not physical abuse and could easily be solved by the man toughening up.
I don't want to get hit by female mma fighters even if I can defend slightly.
[–]johnnysteen 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
I'd have been up for the challenge. Women just are difficult.
[+]BTECArslan -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your emotions are like a sine curve. Google an image if you need.
[–]beautifulcreature86I am a lazy cunt so fuck you I ain't going anywhere 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t need to google your dumbass bullshit
[+]BTECArslan -6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Point proven.
[–]ArtyFishL 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I knew of a man who would never lay a hand on a woman. However his wife became abusive. She would slap him, use her nails and throw things. That shit hurts. Nevermind the emotional abuse. And he refused to fight back. Luckily he is out of that relationship now.
She's using her nails, throwing things, and also committing emotional abuse, so she's not who I'm talking about. My entire point is that actual abuse by women involves all of these things, not just hitting.
[–]ArtyFishL1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
I guess. I've never been slapped by any girl except my sister, when we were younger, so I don't have that good a direct frame of reference, except for seeing others get slapped and hearing of it. But I would say, from that, an actual slap, rather than just a hit or punch, can hurt quite a bit. Certainly not as much as the man could give back. But you also have to understand that a lot of men absolutely outright refuse to lift their hands, for a number of reasons.
And also when it is a loved one who gives physical abuse. That can elevate the emotional abuse to a whole other level. The two are often very closely tied. Maybe out in public it can seem comical, but behind closed doors, not always.
I have been abused by women I've dated, and I've also been hit by women I've dated, and those groups of women are different. So I actually know what I'm talking about on this one. I understand why you'd think the way you do given your experience, but it's not the case.
[–]MarkMew 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know people like this personally.
He has an anxiety disorder, she steals his meds, so he gets drunk and then she beats him up.
[–]johnnysteen 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah her stealing his meds is a big part of that problem.
[–]Idumbbbz 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Slaps behind the head and such are still fucking annoying.
[–]johnnysteen 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. They're annoying. But they're not abuse, and a real man strives to be patient.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A real man lmfao
You're right, patience isn't a virtue to strive for, it's much better if we all just pop off at each other constantly for the smallest slight like a bunch of insecure morons.
[–]DoveesBloodyBear 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't think the two can be seperrate. Maybe a quick strike from a smaller woman doesn't hurt your body, but imagine you give your trust, love and devotion to one person. This person might be sweet and kind and show no signs of bad behavior, some women can hold on to the act for a long time. One day signs start to show, but your perception is already hazy. It eventually progresses to violence, but you love them so you try to cope. Maybe it doesn't do damage on the outside, but how much does this hurt and chip away at the person? I don't know if you've ever been hurt, really hurt, or if you have a never again mentality, or feel like men are weak who feel that pain. But all physical abuse is psychological abuse. You feel something from being devalued or regarded as worth being struck. If you still feel how you do, I hope you can always shrug it off, brother.
[–]johnnysteen -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'd be too busy laughing to be thinking about any of that. There are a lot of abusive behaviors wrapped up in what you're saying, but the hitting in isolation isn't one without all the others.
[–]DoveesBloodyBear 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not expecting any honesty, but it never hurts to ask. Are you being serious in all your comments here?
It depends what you mean by "serious". Honest? 100%.
[–]xMcNaughtyx 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
YMMV
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't worry about downvotes, you're completely correct. I no longer vist this sub because its a place that r/MGTOW and r/braincels users can't get enough of and anyone in their right mind will learn to avoid.
Haha yeah that became clear over the course of that day. Getting that many downvotes was fun, I'll remember it fondly.
[–]Crook56 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Abuse only grows. First it’s a slap and then it’s with rings. Then you’re in jail (without actually doing anything), because she wanted to hurt you even more.
So saying, “hey that slap wasn’t anything dangerous”, isn’t really the point.
It's not that it's not dangerous it's that it's not abuse. Abuse grows; non abuse does not. Saying "abuse grows" is not an argument when my point is that getting hit by a woman is not abuse.
[–]Crook56 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Did a quick google search for ya. Abuse - use (something) to bad effect or for a bad purpose; misuse.
Thank fuck for Google, we might actually have to judge situations for ourselves if we didn't have that
So we should let adults hit other adults because one thinks its funny? Good idea.
I think if you don't want to get hit you're perfectly welcome to live alone if that's your alternative. I say you will usually have a better life if you just man up and deal with it because most women will get bitchy and do it from time to time. This advice doesn't apply if it's actual abuse but use your brain.
Surprised those are my only two options: let my gf hit me or live my life alone.
Use my brain, ok. I actually have a gf where we don't hit each other and live a happy life. Hopefully that's a good choice.
While we are on the subject, we hear all the time that we should be treated like equals. So if you have to "man up" and deal with her hitting you because she is being bitchy, she should deal with you hitting her back right?
That's a good case against feminism, not a good case in favor of pretending the physical absurdity that most women can injure most men with their fists.
I hope one day you meet the most awesome girl.
And over time, she slowly takes away from you everything that makes you you. Your hobbies, your interests, your friends, your family. She’ll test you, offering the things you want, at a price; “If you love me, you’ll do what I say.” You’ll rationalize at first, telling yourself you can live without this or that as she whittles away your self-esteem, your confidence, your will; as it will all take shape in the form of her. She’ll be a model woman out and about with you, and a whore in the bedroom just make it all the more enticing.
Until one day, you step out of line.
You’ll tell yourself whatever you need to tell yourself that what happened wasn’t all that bad, wasn’t her fault; maybe you deserved it. You resolve to no do that thing again. Which works, for a while.
Until you step out of line again, the margins of what is “okay” and what isn’t slowly thinning. She controls you. You deny it, hide from it, do whatever you can to make yourself feel like it’s normal, but it isn’t. The pain will keep getting worse and worse, the wounds hurting more and more.
It’s abuse. Not all abuse is physical. Some is mental. Some is emotional. Some is sexual.
I sincerely hope you suffer this fate so that you know what it’s like to feel as though your world has been taken away and the worst part, you’ll stay because you’re afraid of what the unknown might have in store could be worse because she’s all you’ve ever known.
You just proved my point.
What you're describing is actual abuse. And I did use to date someone like that. I'd take being hit any day.
[–]Ghune 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's like bullying. It's a psychological trap. The bully can be shorter than their victims.
Even among animal, it's about power and psychological battle.
That's my point. Women abuse psychologically. A woman hitting a man doesn't mean anything (usually).
[+]OptimalBarley -16 points-15 points-14 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
These downvotes are from incels who never actually dated an abusive girl, they just hate women and want to see them "punished equally". 🙄
What's wronged with being treated equally?
[–]johnnysteen -5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. What I haven't told them is I've been the victim of abuse by women before, but never the ones who hit. It was the ones who would randomly decide that I needed to change something about myself and would start revealing personal details to friends if I didn't comply.
[–]the-jds 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Great logic. "It didn't happen to me therefor it either doesn't exist or doesn't matter because it's not that bad. I know from experience!"
[–]johnnysteen -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It's actually that it literally did happen to me.
[+]obomagone -18 points-17 points-16 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Real talk tho if a girl hits her boyfriend it will like hurt a little but the guy will be alright but if I guy actually punches a girl in the face she will look like a swollen raccoon for a week in a half, that’s why there’s the 12 hit rule for when a girl hits you cuz 12 girl hits is about equal to one guy hit
[–]Lui_Le_Diamond 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's not the point. The point is a guy is should be perfectly allowed to defend himself. That twelve hit rule rarely applies and it should be ignored. Equal rights, equal fights, equal consequences, equal responsibility.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Step up like a man, get beat down like a man. Period.
[–]johnnysteen -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's what I was saying.
[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Anyone else concerned about reddit's hyperfocus on abuse done by women? Just me? Is it just possible, bear with me on this, that abuse done by women is a problem but the obsessive attention it gets is due to the fact that this site is mostly used by men? It's kind of like the manufactured outrage over false sexual assault allegations. Do they happen? Yes, but more often than not women are pressured into making them by a man in their family. And handing out heavy sentences to the people that make them will shy people away from reporting actual rape, which is the vast majority of allegations.
Anytime I see a post like this, invariably there are misogynists in the comments using it as free pass to go on a tirade about "evil bitches being crazy." Absolute loons who think swearing off all of the opposite sex and complaining constantly about them is an identity. Perhaps they need to look at the common denominator in their lives and not the fictitious women that live rent-free in their heads.
[–]Saul_T_Naughtz 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope.
Because its statistically proven most domestic aggressors are women who being the violence.
I was with one of these batshit crazy whores.
She would bang her head against the wall, throw everything she could, she swing her arms all around and hit anything, including me. yell and scream.
One night, it happened. Some called the cops. Because she had flopped to the floor and started thrashing and kicking around. We lived on top floor of an apt. She had been trying to hit me as well. I just put my arms up to block her.
Cops knocked and she immediately began to cry saying I had thrown her down.
Guess who was arrested that night? Sure as fuck wasnt her.
I won in the end. But. No. I take absolutely no issue with how reddit places blame on starting this shit on women.
Do some men finish the fights? Yes. Is it wrong yes. But fuck. Women start this shit a majority (statistically proven) of the time and gaslight others into believing them, but its men that pay for it.
They all flood in from r/MGTOW and the original creator was a known user of r/braincels
[–]Iconoficons -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Perhaps you should go to a woman’s shelter and tell them how them being there is all of their fault too since you feel so strongly about this.
[–]VirtuousSnollygoster1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Are you out or rational arguments the "whataboutism" is strong in this one.
[–]Iconoficons 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
r/whoosh obviously
[–]VirtuousSnollygoster1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Nope
[–]ThoroughSmile1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
I mean, as I guy with a sister and 2 step-brothers, getting slapped by a woman is really not even as bad as getting the flu shot. Not saying women can't be abusers, not at all, but if you only get hit once then break-up, don't get her arrested.
[–]Saul_T_Naughtz 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Bullshit. You get them arrested. Because I'll tell you the fuck what. When she finds someone that won't stand up for themselves. She will get them arrested.
[–]ThoroughSmile1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
You're right, now that I think about it. A woman that would hit a man even once is probably unsafe to be around.
[–]ApsoluteUnit_JWP 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Any person with the mentality "im going to hit you because im mad/because i think you deserve it" is dangerous to be around; regardless of gender.
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