MRAs protest against biased family courts, an unfair legal system, and genital mutilation. Feminists are worked up about... this.

SilverPaladin · 2012-03-18T16:44:42+00:00

So you'd say they were...up in arms over it?

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Sorry, I'll see myself out...

marcos_de_santos · 2012-03-18T18:10:16+00:00

What about men being required to wear suits and ties even in tropical climate? And of course long pants and closed stuffy shoes. As a job requirement! any way to liberate men, too?

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-03-18T17:29:04+00:00

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TheMagicUpvoteFairy · 2012-03-18T16:46:59+00:00

It isn't a competition.

KitCat4474 · 2012-03-18T16:58:31+00:00

I don't think people even know the definition of oppression amymore. I seriously doubt that that a significant number of men or women or any other demographic is 'oppressed' in our cozy first world countries. Try living in Syria and then complain about your oppressed armpit hairs.

Lurker_IV · 2012-03-18T16:52:55+00:00

You must remember that life is so horrible for women in Sweden. They have to endure men sitting with their legs spread apart Life is so hard for the 4th ranked country in "gender equality."

Sarcasm aside... I can honestly not fucking understand why this is an issue, especially a gender issue. For all the hate that Tom Leykis gets, his stance on relationships is the epitome of what works: If you are with someone and you don't like how they treat you, see you, talk to you, etc... THEN FUCKING LEAVE THEM. DON'T CONTINUE TO DATE THEM. If you want to grow your armpit hair, then fucking do it. If your partner doesn't like it... then go find someone who does. You cannot force people to do what you want.

This is why I find feminism laughable. They talk about oppression, suppression, and privilege, and then they try to change everyone else's behavior. They just don't see the disconnect [or they do and that's the point, because it is a hate movement.] Feminists rage against forcing a young girl to marry her rapist in developing countries, [and they should rage, as everyone should rage,] yet they say nothing when a a 15 year old boy is forced to pay child support to his statutory rapist. They don't care about equality, because they don't want equality. They want to be a victim and get privileges without any obligations or responsibilities.

Most women are for choice of their own gender. Most women are not for choice for the opposite gender, preferring to keep men in traditional roles. You see evidence of this in all the "man up" articles that come from both conservatives, like that fuckwad hypocrite William Bennet, as well as from liberals, like Kate Bolick. Despite losing in education, income, mental health, suicide, life expectancy, incarceration, length of sentencing, child custody, alimony, divorce, men are STILL expected to man up. When men can't marry because of lack of income or ability to pay for a home, we are shamed for being neckbeard internet shut ins. "MARRY US YOU LOSER MEN!!!!..." [Despite the fact that young, single American women outearn young, single men, and the average weight for a women has gone up by 25 lbs in 30 years.]

Even the highest earning women STILL want a man that earns more, and is more successful than her. [Note, this is from Forbes in 2011, there was a recent study just last week that articulates this point better. I'll edit it in if I find it, or if someone else wants to link it.] There was an article in the New York times and Daily Mail showing that high earning women actually RESENT their stay-at-home husbands. They still want, and are attracted to, a man who they feel is a leader.

In summary, women have choice, want choice, and want more choice, yet still expect men to be defined by rigid roles.

Lurker_IV · 2012-03-18T17:49:22+00:00

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TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-03-18T18:34:31+00:00

“It is proof that many live in a narrow-minded and normative world. We have to challenge these structures,”

1) What qualifies as narrow-minded or normative?

2) What proves this?

3) If this is true, what is the reason it needs to be changed?

It seems more and more often people just make claims will ill-defined terms and don't even provide reasons why they're right or even why what they're opposed to is wrong. It's rhetorically brilliant when you think about: Nobody can show why you're wrong because you didn't really say anything, but it made people feel funny inside so yay!

masonmason22 · 2012-03-18T22:58:04+00:00

Each gender is still pretty held down by gender expectations in terms of appearance. The obsession with hair removal is kinda weird too. Hair is one of the things that makes a 10 year old different to an adult, but yet both genders are pretty obsessed with keeping it away.

There are gender-appearance issues that us guys are stuck with too, for example I can't be taken seriously in a professional setting with long hair, but a female can be with short hair. I can't wear some kinda skirt/3 quarter pant suit in a professional setting in summer, but a female can.

While it may sound trivial, it is still a big aspect of gender expectations and to a degree, control and oppression, so I can see why they want to take a stand against it.

DarkRider23 · 2012-03-18T16:06:38+00:00

We are two very different movements.

We are civil and human rights, they are social eugenics, and shaving arm pits becoming a norm was likely their own doing, I see a lot of what feminism does is battle against social norms that women and previous versions of feminism put in place in the past, while of course blaming men for it.

OMG_TRIGGER_WARNING · 2012-03-18T18:19:03+00:00

women have a right to not shave their armpits if they so wish; i have a right to be disgusted by it

2012-03-18T17:47:47+00:00

This is like the Oppression Special Olympics.

C0CKPUNCHER · 2012-03-18T16:25:42+00:00

It's a bit strange. From their statements, you'd think they aren't aware men shave their armpits too.

30thCenturyMan · 2012-03-18T16:14:33+00:00

We should have a counter protest shaving our entire bodies to protest the women that find a hairless man "icky"

hardwarequestions · 2012-03-18T16:00:17+00:00

When you already have all the power women actually have, you must make a fuss about silly things to justify your existence, as feminists.

2012-03-18T21:28:49+00:00

Oh right, because women everywhere are totally fine with men who have long hair, massive beards, and hair all over.

... but if it's women... then suddenly it's "a form of oppression based on a beauty norm and controlling the female body"

2012-03-18T16:15:26+00:00

.... WHAT

BinaryShadow · 2012-03-19T05:32:30+00:00

“We want to take a stand for all those that are insulted. It is about gender roles and letting everyone be themselves,” said Anni Isis, one of the armpit baring protesters, to the local Sydsvenskan paper.

Except if men want to sit a certain way on a bus. Then it's just a sign of misogyny and the bahvior needs to be corrected.

The demonstration was organized by the Malmö Feminist Network (Malmös Feministiska Nätverk), which decided to “Reclaim the Hair” after Sweden’s online community had been whipped into a frenzy due to one woman’s hairy armpit being exposed during a live television broadcast of the Melodifestivalen song contest finals on Saturday.

This is what feminism will look like when they have completely conquered a country. Protests over armpit hair.

“I have received death threats online many times. They say we are unhygienic and often call us whores,” she said to Sydsvenskan.

It's the internet. I'm sure that this poor victim will support the SRS/SA troll behavior of declaring themselves the morality police of the internet. COming in like the white knights they are to save only the political correct groups from any and all criticism.

That being said, a woman should have the right to not shave her armpits. That doesn't mean that I have to now find that attractive just because some loser feminist group said so.

InfinitelyThirsting · 2012-03-19T15:22:48+00:00

So protest about it, guys. The difference between most of you and the women here is that they, you know, organise about it. There's nothing wrong with whatever they want to do with their time.

desu_desu · 2012-03-18T19:51:36+00:00

MRAs also protest against stuff people said on Facebook one time, you cherry-picking cheap imitation of r/atheism.

phukka · 2012-03-18T19:38:57+00:00

Why the feminist circlejerk in the comments there about misogyny when it was a woman that put the photo up on facebook, and when women are similarly VERY vocal about being anti-body hair.

In the classic femtard approach, they're victimizing themselves over how they, as women, label and promote themselves.

Many guys I know don't give two shits about shaved pits or crotch (legs are different, because female legs are often prickly and just uncomfortable to the touch), yet many of my female friends are very vocal in how it's disgusting if a woman isn't shaved.

eluusive · 2012-03-18T21:13:50+00:00

Why is it that all these weird complaints are coming from Sweden? There was one about men crossing their legs awhile ago.

FreddyDeus · 2012-03-18T21:31:20+00:00

Yeah, they tried to convince women of that in the 70s, 80s and 90s. And they weren't convinced then either.

2012-03-19T02:02:44+00:00

To do list:

Take out the trash
Laundry
~~Visit Sweden~~

crookers · 2012-03-19T02:20:05+00:00

What? This is the most intellectually dishonest thing I've seen in a while

2012-03-19T08:32:26+00:00

I think women have a right to look however they want, but they can't make people be attracted to them, so they may end up having to change their appearance to get a date

twokidsinamansuit · 2012-03-19T10:33:58+00:00

Well, they have to protest .... Something, right? I mean, we really need to get those arm pit laws off the books!

2012-03-19T11:17:21+00:00

I bet no one cares about women and armpit hair as much as they do, one way or the other.

2012-03-20T01:15:07+00:00

I think this is silly. Gender norms may seem like a silly thing to address except it's even the small things that count. I think they make a good point. How do people feel when MRAs are mocked for addressing certain issues? All issues count, big and small.

Unconfidence · 2012-03-18T19:34:43+00:00

Actually, I'm pretty sure the feminists are trying to fight off government control of abortion rights and to make sure birth control remains covered by insurance. But that's a nice straw man.

We're better than this, guys.

woofoo · 2012-03-18T18:43:09+00:00

Jeezus those are some ugly women.

Title	MRAs protest against biased family courts, an unfair legal system, and genital mutilation. Feminists are worked up about... this.
Author	Greasy
Upvotes	69
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Date	March 18, 2012 3:52 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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