Hey I'm a woman n I want to know what issues in the way men are treated should be addressed first?

Reddit1984Censorship · 2022-10-30T22:49:12+00:00

I believe the root of men issues is male disposability, the empathy gap, ''women and children first''. Basicaly our suffering is often not valued enough or simply ignored.
Once you identify that, i would prioritize the issues that cause the most raw suffering, things like suicide, homelessness, murder, work related fatalities and so on, including lesser resources dedicated on male medicine/medical research.
After that theres the family issues from paternity fraud to divorce court to our domestic violence not being taken seriously.
After that theres male mental health being a mess in general might be at an all time low.
Then theres specific stuff like circumcisiton or military draft.
And then theres the more directly feminist artificially caused issues such as false accusations, disadvantages in education, unlilateral hiring quotas, deplatforming of men spaces/culture, the attacks on masculinity itself, women on men bullying and so on.
Men also need help in the sexual department, male virginity is at an all time high, but that of course is not a priority, although is something very impactful in a mans life.
What am i missing guys?

The_Bearded_Cyclist · 2022-10-30T22:22:19+00:00

In my opinion the family courts need to be dealt with first. It's the only court system in the world where you are guilty until proven innocent. Father's are kept away from their children (parental alienation) with nothing more than an accusation with no evidence provided and the father often has to pay out anywhere from tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars just to see his children.

Also under this umbrella paternity fraud is quite high, about 60,000 cases in the USA per year if I remember correctly and the system allows women to get away with it.

Financial abortion is another one, if a woman has the right to decide if she will carry a child or no with the father getting no say then men should have the right to sign away all parental and financial responsibility.

Lastly DV. DV against men is quite high but it's never recognised, there is no government funding for men in places like Australia, no shelters no support. This needs to change.

Jamie1897 · 2022-10-30T22:59:46+00:00

I think the genital mutilation of males actually constitutes a form of low-hanging fruit. The anti-FGM laws are such a blatant violation of the equal protection clause. Plus all PR for circumcision is bad PR. Bleeding baby genitals will never be able to be spun in good way. The best they can ever do to defend it is to avoid talking about specifics.

randomusername1934 · 2022-10-30T22:16:12+00:00

what issues should be addressed first

That's a hell of a question. I think if you ask three guys that you'll get at least five different answers. There are just that many, important, things to deal with that there's no way around that sort of thing. If you asked me I'd say the best problem to solve would be the mistreatment ('discrimination' has been so overused as to be all but meaningless by now) of men by the courts, police, and politicians. Or possibly the way that women are being trained from birth to see men as 'the enemy' or - at best - 'a threat'.

Basically there is no 'one thing' that would make a good starting point. It's all pretty crap, and it's all important - sorry for the lack of a clear answer.

PoolPartyAtMyHouse · 2022-10-30T23:18:14+00:00

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SubmissivePickmegirl · 2022-10-30T23:24:08+00:00

Hey lady, you read my mind. I also frequently enter this sub because I am also concerned about prioritizing the right things.

I am also a daughter of divorced parents and it's my mother's fault because she is a cheater, negligent and custody thief. The custody stealth issue has been among society for many years now. Just like many more men's issues which cannot be stated in a single sentence. I was hoping as a teen custody stealth horrid trend to get reduced but it has increased. We won't stop until there is justice for MRA.

2022-10-31T01:20:05+00:00

Respect to you mrs! (I'm not native English speaker so sorry about the mistakes)

Fix-Advanced · 2022-10-31T06:47:59+00:00

Being treated like a disposable object.

killcat · 2022-10-31T07:21:59+00:00

How about re-instituting "innocent until proven guilty" currently the Duluth model and unwritten law treats men as guilty of charges of sexual assault, harassment and domestic violence.

Greg_W_Allan · 2022-10-31T11:10:43+00:00

My younger sister is a grandmother to five boys. Several years ago I introduced her to an article called "Effacing the Male" by Prof Adam Jones, auther also of "Gendercide". Jones uses the nineties Kosova conflicts as a framework to describe the many ways in which male suffering, even on a large scale, is hidden in every possible way. My sister now regularly complains about seeing it everywhere.

http://adamjones.freeservers.com/effacing.htm

EvidencePlz · 2022-10-30T22:50:11+00:00

You are also free to tell me stuff you think women misunderstand about men :)

I have had 4 guys do some horrible stuff to me at different times. What would you say would be better advice to girls than either nothing or seeing guys as a threat? (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/yhp4yc/comment/iufdx50/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)

Once upon a time some men belonging to a certain religion and a certain branch called Al-Qaeda flew an airliner into a skyscraper. Next day all the men of the world converted to that religion and branch, leaving me to wonder where all the good, peaceful, non-Al-Qaeda men have gone. /s

Thanks for coming to my short TED talk.

sharksville · 2022-10-30T23:24:24+00:00

I think when it comes to the whole thing about sex and sexuality and all that. That’s not the only thing men want. Society has basically been brain wired into think that all men want is sex all the time. And as a result men are looked at as potential rapists and child abusers. Because of that, some men have difficulty to some extent just being around kids in general. If there’s a time period in a public pool for kids, men can’t be around at that time. Running a day care Center, men can’t get that job where they’re looking after children. A neighbour’s kid wonder off and the man next door who was seen outside is arrested immediately. Even me when I took my daughter out to the park I got told to step away from her by some woman who wouldn’t just mind her own business and try brand me as something. Women out there wear basically nothing at the beach and somehow think that a glimpse mens that men just want sex and one thing leads to another until you reach the point men will be innocent but be classified as horny and looking for sexual encounters. There are other things as well but I think that this is one of those things that need to be addressed. Stop treating all men like we only look for just sex. You have your buns out in the beach, obviously someone is going to notice that. You dress explicitly then obviously someone’s gonna notice. There’s a bulge down there doesn’t mean that he’s got an erection. When a guy is with a little kid could also mean that he’s taking care of them.

iainmf · 2022-10-30T23:53:51+00:00

The fundamental thing, I think, is that there is no systems in place to address men's issues. Governments and institutions either don't care about men or think their issues get magically taken care of.

I think institutions need to explicitly recognise men have human rights and they have obligations to men as rights-holders.

See my short video about a Human Rights Based Approach to men's rights for more info about treating men as rights-holders.

Candid_Bullfrog6274 · 2022-10-30T23:27:44+00:00

A good follow either here or on instagram is u/TheTinMenBlog.

He touches on many issue and backs it with research.

Drakethepirate · 2022-10-31T01:31:16+00:00

Thank you for supporting Men's rights. We need more women like you to expose the inequality men face with parental rights and the necessity to raise awareness about male victims of domestic abuse. As of today there are thousands of women refuges spreading their propaganda in order to get more money while male victims are still not taken seriously.

Men and boys should not be shamed for being single or virgins, even at an older age and we need body positivity for men to end discriminations and body shaming, for example the discrimination men face for being shorter than average.

We also have to raise awareness about the importance of men's mental health.

bludragon355 · 2022-10-31T02:45:28+00:00

One of the first issues that must be tackled is to afford men the same basic human rights afforded to women.

A very big way we can do this is by drastically lowering the rates of neonatal male gental mutilation, more commonly known as infant circumcision. Either politically or socially, but preferably both.

Be active, be vocal, and be educated.

Research the complications and harms of MGM, talk to intactivists and MGM survivors, attend your local town hall meeting, write to your senators and congressmen and congresswomen.

Get them to move for a ban on infant circumcision. And educate your friends about this human rights issue.

DialecticSkeptic · 2022-10-31T05:59:44+00:00

This is my own armchair opinion—I have no formal education or training in this area, so it may not be worth much. Speaking from my own experiences, I can tell you what I think are two of the most important issues related to how men are treated.

1. Stop taking men for granted. There is almost no end to the things a man is willing to do when he feels genuinely valued. The more you respect him as a man, the more he will act like one and show you love.

Compliment him with three reasons why he is such a good husband and father. Brag about him, defend him, and praise him in front of your family and friends.
Ask him for his advice or opinion—and then follow through on it.
Encourage him. It's easy to criticize, complain, or nag, but a man who feels like he can't do anything right soon does nothing at all. On the other hand, the more you encourage him, the more he will go out of his way for you.
Before you vent or complain about your day, ask him about his—and genuinely, actively listen with words of support, appreciation, and encouragement.
Know his love language, and always let him know how much you love him using that language. If it's physical touch, run your hand along his back as you walk by. If it's quality time, curl up next to him as he watches the game. If it's acts of service, make his favorite meal for supper strictly for his sake. And so on.
Note: If the things you do around the house are things you'd be doing if you weren't married, then you aren't doing anything for your husband's sake.

2. Stop criminalizing men for being men. These days it seems that men cannot escape the guilt of being men. If a man weighs in on women's issues, he is mansplaining. If he doesn't, he's probably a chauvinist pig. If a man finds a woman attractive, he's objectifying her. If he finds her unattractive, he's an incel. If a man expresses emotions, he is weak. If he doesn't, it's toxic masculinity. And on and on. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

iwillprobneveruse · 2022-10-31T09:28:19+00:00

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duckyboys8 · 2022-10-31T01:30:54+00:00

Do your own DD tf

SvenAERTS · 2022-10-30T23:41:19+00:00

Maybe numbers can explain a lot? There's simply 7% too many boys/young men:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_sex\_ratio#Natural\_ratio\_at\_birth

It is 7% harder to bring a female foetus all the way to a newborn baby.In a population of 10 million, that means that in every age stratum of 5 years, eg age 20-25, there's 400.000 young men and 390.000 ladies and thus 10.000 young men who will never find a girlfriend because they have simply not been born.

wowelysiumthrowaway · 2022-10-31T00:13:46+00:00

I think of it more in a cultural way. People who expect you to get involved with violent ordeals in the streets because you are a young man

reverbiscrap · 2022-10-31T00:16:57+00:00

https://newblackmasculinities.wordpress.com/2020/09/24/the-black-male-political-agenda-by-t-hasan-johnson-ph-d/

This encompasses many of the things that would be brought up here, in terms of political activism.

iwillprobneveruse · 2022-10-31T01:00:00+00:00

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Chekhovs_Gin · 2022-10-31T03:56:14+00:00

Unironically woman have 100% of the social power. Women should ask men out that they are into. I'm sure us saying no or at least hanging out for a bit will be better than the insta "I have a boyfriend" mantra men sometimes get.

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2022-10-31T14:14:04+00:00

It probably cant change as things are.

I think a direct line can go through sexual liberation and changes in social norms increases the amount of single mothers, the biggest indicators of so many problems (suicide, lack of empathy) due to the lack of a secound parental figure. Enter kindergarden, and its so scewed towards girls that the boys fall behind allready at that stage (some indicators of a genderd difference and examples of what arent allowed)

Enter the schoolyears, and we can see how young men fall so much behind. We see special grants, privileges and just straight up programs to help young girls reach their potential (such as quotas for higher education), a demographically very progressive group of female teachers and this shit.. We lack male role models as so many more are growing up without a father and without male staff at school. We can also see how diffrent we raise young teenagers based on sex, and these boys gets bombarded with signals from all over that they are wrong, evil, sexist, mysoginists, incels, not worthy... and this festers and grows.

Reach the dating scene and the experience (while misserable for both) is a life of rare connections and loads of rejection. You are almost garanteed to not meet every criteria so prevalent in the demands. Im a six foot fairly decient looking guy with a job and an education, with ambitions, and if i go on tinder its MAXIMUM a few matches a week.

So how to fix this? Access to abortion, healthy education shows a coorelation with reduced birthrstes and elevating people out of poverty. A more educated group have less kids and at a later stage in life. And make fathers be percieved just as important as the mothers. This will probably be through educating the next generation....

but considering the demographics, and the way things are evolving, and that teachers historically only grows more progressive, im not very optimistic.

Oppai_Dragon6996 · 2022-10-31T15:12:51+00:00

The most important thing to do is making family courts fair so that fathers could get 50-50 custody. I have heard stories where even if the mother is abusive she is awarded majority custody.

Title	Hey I'm a woman n I want to know what issues in the way men are treated should be addressed first?
Author	iwillprobneveruse
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Date	October 30, 2022 8:34 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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