Feminist law professor "Murder of your sleeping husband is a moral entitlement" presumably picking up a phone and dialing a DV center or friend or 911 is too much to ask of women

McFeely_Smackup · 2013-12-13T21:54:24+00:00

Sheehy likened women in abusive relationships to prisoners of war. “We would never say of a prisoner of war that it’s not just that she or he kill their captor to escape.

seems like a "law professor" might know how to do a cursory bit of research before running her mouth.

The Geneva Convention does not allow prisoners to kill their captors in order to escape, in fact by international agreement they could be found guilty of murder for doing so.

Is she sure this is the analogy she wants to use?

Number357 · 2013-12-13T21:17:45+00:00

This woman gets to call herself a professor of law?

Vile.

If a man in her position suggested battered husbands were morally entitled to murder their sleeping wives, feminists would be marching through the university's doors within the week and burning his effigy in the street.

Simultanagnosia · 2013-12-13T21:50:24+00:00

That is the same defense used by the ice cream parlour killer who chopped up and interred two boyfriends in concrete. She just can't seem to get away from those abusive men without making them part of her buildings foundation. It is only coincidence that she took shooting lessons and learned how to mix concrete prior to the killings.

unexpecteditem · 2013-12-13T20:59:37+00:00

That's all well and good but the word "abusive" is missing from the title and I just find that a tad click-baity and manipulative.

As for the content of the article it reminds me of the old law in traditional Islamic societies whereby the man is entitled to beat, and even kill, his wife, only the sexes are reversed.

I think that's what we are dealing with here: female supremacist violent domination of men by women.

What's interesting is that feminists will say it is the men who are initiating the violence and the woman only kills because she is the weaker party and the victim who lacks any defence.

However, by the scenario envisaged it is the man who is killed and lacks a defence.

There is something twisted about this logic. It begs the question. It assumes what it proposes to infer.

Where is the evidence the man is violent initially? If it is there, the legal justice system already supports the woman. If it is not, how can we be sure he was?

We can't just assume a man is guilty as alleged because he is a man. That destroys natural justice completely.

Eenjoy · 2013-12-14T02:28:09+00:00

So by this logic, should my grandmother have killed my mom, rather than call child services and come get me/my brother from her, when my mother told her she was going to kill herself anf take the boys with her?

Or should my dad have killed my mom when he had to repeatedly go to the hospital for stitches bc she would throw glassware at him or hit him with metal belts, instead of calling the police?

In case anyone wants to say my father somehow instigated anything, which I don't think they would here; I saw almost every one of their fights.

Sad part is that it took years to even convince my mom's side of the family that my father never hit her.

kragshot · 2013-12-14T01:52:00+00:00

This quote

“Men can kill women with their bare hands, and they do. Women almost never kill men that way. They can’t,” she said.

Did she really just state that a woman can't kill a man with her bare hands? Or did I read that section wrong? I don't even know what to say to this, that statement is just incredulous.

Meistermalkav · 2013-12-13T21:03:40+00:00

With all the resources, funding and DV bias towards women I don't understand why we also need free-pass stipulations like battered-wife syndrome and what this professor is proposing. Perhaps education and mental health support is better than allowing women to premeditate murder even terrible men if they feel it's justified, because you know due process.

AlexReynard · 2013-12-14T03:05:22+00:00

What an inhuman monster.

No, I can't say anything else. No intelligent counterarguments, no witty response. She's a fucking monster and I'm appalled I live on the same planet as her.

rapey_raperson · 2013-12-14T00:08:20+00:00

This is some sick shit. People like her should not be allowed contact with students, nor allowed to practice law. What else can you you say about twisted thinking like hers?

Granting that "shock jock" tactics like this sell books (Sheehy's book release date is 5 days after the article was published), even garnering attention via shock value has to have limits. But to encourage all women who feel abused to murder their SO? We're in serious sociopath territory here; I'm amazed a newspaper would publish such an article beyond a "look at what a crazy idea this is" treatment.

Perhaps an exception to rape charges for men whose SOs withhold sex is in order. After all, it is emotionally abusive. And it's just rape, not murder.

luxury_banana · 2013-12-14T01:19:29+00:00

spiteful people writing the laws, this is disturbing, i also wonder how easy this would be to fake if the man was not abusive.

kragshot · 2013-12-14T02:36:55+00:00

"HOLY JODI ARIAS, BATMAN!!!!!"

kaluh_glarski · 2013-12-14T02:44:33+00:00

Oh god.

jpflathead · 2013-12-13T20:34:26+00:00

Everywhere I look, Marxism.

Marxism makes me angry, because it is a childish world view. "I am oppressed! I am not receiving that which I am entitled to! Anybody I perceive to have an advantage over me is an evil class enemy! Kill the class enemy!"

Smallpaul · 2013-12-14T04:07:38+00:00

What this woman argues is outrageous and illiberal. But why did the title leave out the word "battered?"

just_an_ordinary_guy · 2013-12-14T07:25:29+00:00

Now, I don't think she would be out of line to kill him while he is in the act of beating on her. I mean, it would be the same as any other self defense case. However, one should always take the course with the least amount of violence necessary to get out of a violent situation.

2013-12-14T16:26:03+00:00

Unfortunately Canadian court systems agree with her. The precedent has been set here once they claim the "I was a battered spouse" at best they get probation. Regardless of evidence or lack there of.

gsettle · 2013-12-14T18:46:24+00:00

Law professor needs to be disbarred.

PantheraLupus · 2013-12-14T04:35:50+00:00

Was this not posted here like, two days ago?

EinsteinRidesShotgun · 2013-12-14T04:56:35+00:00

The title of this post is really misleading. That being said, this woman seems a bit psychotic - - domestic abuse is a terrible thing, but killing could only be justified if a person was in immediate danger of their lives.

soulslawter · 2013-12-14T01:29:33+00:00

Are you serious fucking /u/jpflathead?

While I don't agree with her arguments, your title is a real piece of fucking work. She's talking about battered, abused, fearful women living under the roof of sociopaths. Is it right to kill your abuser in that situation? I would say no. But you're just baiting for upvotes as if some feminist psychopath said: Yeah women should kill their husbands its their right no questions asked.

Obviously that's not what she's getting at. She's getting at self-defense, even if her argument is warped and unethical.

You're a hack.

AryaBarzan · 2013-12-15T05:49:30+00:00

Guise, you got it all wrong. Feminism does not support violence. Supporting killing a husband because she believes he's being "abusive" is A-Okay. So is supporting women who've maimed/genitally mutilated their husbands. Only those evil MRA's support violence. I mean, you remember that one guy who lit HIMSELF on fire to protest sexist divorce court proceedings which hindered him from seeing children. MONSTERS!

/s

2013-12-14T03:36:55+00:00

Misleading title...

Title	Feminist law professor "Murder of your sleeping husband is a moral entitlement" presumably picking up a phone and dialing a DV center or friend or 911 is too much to ask of women
Author	jpflathead
Upvotes	452
Comments	132
Date	December 13, 2013 8:11 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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