The patriarchy?

guy_n_cognito_tu · 2023-04-10T12:04:12+00:00

Let me walk you through your own post:

You're anti-capitalist and anti-consumerism, but you brag about stacking paper and retiring early.
You're wanting to live a simple life and be "one with mother earth", but you're living in an urban area.
This sentence, that doesn't display one lick of "humility":

I'll say with humility that I'm hyper intelligent - logical, intrapersonal, interpersonal, existential, kinetic, spatial

The fact that you used the phrase "Top G" unironically.

Dear god, man, that's a lot to absorb. Let me offer you some advice: self-absorbed, red pill, and completely un-self-aware isn't something that's going to be attractive to most women. If you're content with that in life, then more power to you. Just don't expect that women are going to be knocking down your door.

tremp2020 · 2023-04-10T12:26:32+00:00

Hyper douche

toooldforthisnonsens · 2023-04-10T11:42:06+00:00

Live like a monk and if a partner enters your life, you'll be the better for it.

Worried_Umpire7373 · 2023-04-10T13:33:15+00:00

I’m curious to hear how your outsiderness was used against you in your divorce. In what ways did this happen?

Also, I agree, your post comes off as pretty cringey. But to be honest, I relate to a lot of what you’re saying. I also agree that we’re all doomed to hypocrisy and your acceptance of that gives the whole thing some amount of redemption.

ideliver22 · 2023-04-10T14:33:13+00:00

He’s an “anti-capitalist” but pissed because the fruits of his labor was “taken” in his divorce.

Naw- you just payed your fair share. Which in case you haven’t noticed - is never enough for women and the government.

I say this peace and love.

rookiepatchaut · 2023-04-10T15:53:39+00:00

Society is always changing due to technological innovations, which then leads to changes in both cultural norms and eventually the legal system. The patriarchy as I think you define it is coming to an end because technological innovations have made it possible for women to support themselves, their self-defense, and their own happiness in the absence of a male partner (e.g. increase in non-physically demanding white collar jobs, birth control, firearms, etc.). Divorce laws haven’t caught up, and they might never catch up.

Women want status, but not necessarily any more than men. In fact, men have probably cared more about status for most of history. (Even today, men are willing to shoot at another vehicle and risk jail time because they got cut off or some stranger gave them the bird). Many men also don’t want to be stay at home dads because of status (even though they might benefit more financially in a divorce if they were the stay at home dad and their wife was the one working). And post breakup, it’s usually men who lose it when they find out their ex is sleeping with someone new. Women care about infidelity within a relationship, but don’t seem to care as much about what their ex does (sexually) after a relationship is over (of course, this isn’t always the case).

In a country of relative abundance, both men and women want to have their cake and eat it too. Many men seem to want a woman who is a young innocent conservative-dressing submissive virgin (or low body count) by day, but a sexy experienced porn star at night, who can then have mature and intellectually stimulating conversation about philosophy and fantasy football the following morning. Also, people date / marry to fill a need / desire. When I dated lower income women, they valued me having a job and car and cared less about my looks and fitness. When I dated attorneys or business execs, they could care less about my job or salary and just wanted me to be amazing in the sack to take away their stress from work. When I dated intellectuals, they wanted great conversation and shared political beliefs.

Since you claim to be hyper intelligent, it’s fair to assume you understand the rules of today’s dating / marriage game well, so play accordingly, try to change the game (become a politician, influencer, author), or don’t play at all. But it’s not worth wasting time just complaining about how the game is rigged since nothing is going to change in the short-term. In fact, things will probably become more challenging for both men and women who want serious and meaningful relationships as technology and society continues to change (hypergamy, polyamorous relationships, etc.). If you’re unwilling to compromise and won’t settle for anything less than a unicorn, that’s your choice. But no one will or should have sympathy for you if it doesn’t work out because everyone is faced with a similar set of choices in life regarding compromise and risk vs. reward.

I know you’re anti-consumerism and anti-capitalism, but an important consumer product we’ll be seeing much more of this decade are hyperrealistic sex robots with artificial intelligence. I don’t mean this to sound demeaning, but a small cabin in the woods with a realistic sex robot that communicated with you in a “likeminded” fashion is something for you to consider (and many others as well) if you’re already considering escorts or sugar babies. And I’m being serious here. I recently learned there are actually “hands on” conventions in China for these types of products (if you think the US is bad for dating, men in China are at a massive disadvantage).

No-Exit6560 · 2023-04-10T11:56:06+00:00

Look up Aaron clarey and buy the book of numbers. He’s also got some other great books and a regular podcast.

The book of numbers though….It’s pretty enlightening.

He had an actuary verify all his data.

J_squared12 · 2023-04-10T14:50:28+00:00

I agree with most of your sentiments. I do think there are women that are like-minded in this regard, but you’re not going to find them in western culture…especially not America. Our society is built on materialism, status, and narcissism…fueled by social media that permeates everything in life. To find what you’re looking for, I’d recommend taking a backpacking trip around the world. I have a friend who met a unicorn in Cambodia…(she doesn’t seem to care about money, stuff or status). Additionally, the trolls trying to knock you down in this thread are probably female lurkers or men who were unable to recover from their divorce. I wouldn’t pay much attention to either…

CommanderOfCheese45 · 2023-04-10T16:07:30+00:00

There's a patriarchy at the top. Everyone else is subject to a matriarchy. Women control what our homes are like. They do most of the spending. They control our educations, they control our moment to moment health care, they control what we are allowed to see in published media (i.e. censorship, political correctness et al) and control what's considered 'polite' in society.

The patriarchy just gatekeeps who's allowed in the upper echelons of society.

And one last thing:

I'll say with humility that I'm hyper intelligent

You're neither humble nor hyper intelligent. You're high-functioning autistic; you calculate non-human things faster and that's basically it. That it took you 40 years to realize it's a curse as well as a blessing means you're behind the curve.

pk2at · 2023-04-10T15:10:46+00:00

If you live in a neolib are, did you have legal separation? Did you consider e-filing a legal separation with two signatures from her? I feel you did not prepare for a separation at all. All your effort seems to have been in negotiating with her during divorce

Title	The patriarchy?
Author	nightwillalwayswin
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Comments	45
Date	April 10, 2023 11:40 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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