If men in Ukraine are forced to go to the military, why aren't the women forced to birthing kids out in a facility? oh but that's slavery? THEN WHAT IS THE CONSCRIPTION THEN?? 😆

AlexKingstonsGigolo · 2023-07-22T15:39:15+00:00

Isn’t it weird how feminism often seems to vanish as soon as a war begins?

Minute_Ad_1494 · 2023-07-22T15:10:15+00:00

Conscription is slavery

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-07-22T11:33:14+00:00

Honestly, conscription is way worse than what you mentioned. In the case of conscription returning home with mental issues is the best-case scenario, you will likely return maimed or in a body bag.

Feminism fights for women to do whatever they want and for men to stick to patriarchal obligations of providing and protecting.

Say no to feminism!

Tanto_Monta · 2023-07-22T13:48:54+00:00

The Femen movement is from Ukraine. I didn't see any woman from that movement complaining that they are not equal for conscription.

whater39 · 2023-07-22T16:35:50+00:00

Why not just conscript women to fight. Most combat never becomes hand to hand, so don't have to say they are at a disadvantage. Or have them in roles like artillery, motars, drones, etc.

walterwallcarpet · 2023-07-22T13:10:22+00:00

Exactly. Then there's the universal dynamic that men provide resources to women, who, in turn, provide sex to men. Yet, in today's world, there's a female hiring preference, especially in STEM.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1418878112#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20prevailing%20assumptions%2Cmen%20and%20women%20faculty%20members,took%20parental%20leaves%20to%20mothers%20who%20did%20not.

So - they t'k 'r jobs. Men have been disadvantaged in their ability to provide status and money. They are further disadvantaged in that female expectations have been raised, even fewer men will register on the radar as potential partners. This disadvantage is then further amplified by the 'harassment' laws which have proliferated over the past two decades, as a result of hostile feminist incursion into the decision-making processes of law and politics. All too easy to be labelled as a 'creep' or worse..... and end up losing your job. This is a spiral of doom for both men and society as a whole. There are no winners in a race where women end up freezing their eggs.

Maybe they need to lighten up a bit, and pay their fair share on dates with their new-found wealth and independence. As a corollary to 'Affirmative Action' and 'Equal Employment Opportunity', maybe fair dating practice should be enshrined in law.

AdGreedy8753 · 2023-07-22T13:44:49+00:00

Why should men be forcefully conscripted? I would force our president onto the front lines😂😂😂 That funny guy, making conflict with others, then expect me to die so he can enjoy the spoils. Let him lead us. If he ain't dying neither am I.

aigars2 · 2023-07-22T15:35:56+00:00

Women privilege

FifthBigGuy · 2023-07-22T15:56:10+00:00

the women want equal rights. I understand that, I support that. But once they hear they might get added to the draft, where's those equal rights they were asking for

Kinexity · 2023-07-22T15:38:43+00:00

Yeah, if men are conscripted than women should be too but try to explain it to people. Best would be to get rid of conscription entirely but unfortunately it's not and option as long as there are dictatorships which will conscript people anyways.

infinitofluxo · 2023-07-23T01:42:38+00:00

Women lives are harder, they have to suffer the pain of their losses, men at least die a horrible death and are free to haunt their monkey branching exes.

onlywill121 · 2023-07-23T10:19:30+00:00

Lol very true put women to war then they will stop going on about being equal

mrkanu · 2023-07-23T21:55:07+00:00

Why shouldn't the childless women who ran away from Ukraine at the start of war be branded and treated as traitors? After all running away or staying was a choice for them. There are women who have stayed back and are serving their country to the best of their capacities. What purpose would the women who ran away serve for the cause of Ukraine by doing what they did?

SpecificGlans · 2023-07-23T16:24:18+00:00

r/unpopularopinion 👍

dibberdott · 2023-07-22T21:22:55+00:00

You Meat Shields need to stop whining . /s. Focus on Male solidarity instead of just feminist hating. Feminist are a distraction from real Mensrights and male issues.

Despexco · 2023-07-23T01:11:39+00:00

The solution is to draft women or abolish the draft, not to systematically rape us.

FormalCombination538 · 2023-07-22T18:27:20+00:00

Where are those feminists that demand “equality”? Why feminists don’t protest screaming patriarchy and demanding that 50% of Ukrainian soldiers must be women? Why aren’t they “peacefully” marching in front lines blocking the fighting until their demands are met? Or 50/50 is only for nice high paying jobs?

Where are those “brave” soldiers of antifa? (lower case ‘a’ indicating how much respect I have for them)? Why aren’t they in Ukraine? Not convenient enough? Scared?

If they wanted to be “eliminate gender discrimination” they could have followed Israel’s example. Conscription for everyone !

Update: This is my opinion. To those who keep down voting me, please try to explain how my logic is wrong. I know that I am not correct in every single thing. I am always open to listening opposing versions. Otherwise, I don’t care what you think about me or how many times you down vote me. I don’t think about you at all. 🤷‍♂️

his_purple_majesty · 2023-07-22T23:21:12+00:00

bodily autonomy = sacrosanct for women, who gives a fuck for men

NoEmergency392 · 2023-07-23T01:34:34+00:00

Actually, the equivalent men being forced in the military would be women being forced into the military. To be realistic the equivalent to the the woman analogy is men being forced to not only ejaculate ( thats being nice because again to be equivalent its not really a need)...possibly several times but then lets put a parasite into thier body against thier will...in the abdomen, let it grow to 8-10 lbs, all he will have to do is pop it out in 40 weeks, breast feed maybe.... I mean men do have mammary glands. ( hint all mammals do)...

tatertots141 · 2023-07-23T01:34:05+00:00

the war is when shit hits the fan and it really goes back to reality where there are only two genders and if you were born male you stay male and stay to fight while if you were born women you can leave because you have no pride

KrazyJazz · 2023-07-22T12:19:43+00:00

...why aren't the women forced to birthing kids out in a facility?

It's Ukraine, man. Everything has a price.

Hornydaddy696 · 2023-07-23T02:13:14+00:00

What's the point of sending only half your population to war?

Isn't the logic behind that coz they think women will find another man and procreate and men won't be useful beyond that

TheSoviet_Onion · 2023-07-23T14:52:49+00:00

Discriminating men via conscription is not actually illegal since the declaration of human rights literally has that written out as an exception, source: I study law and am from Finland, an EU country that also conscripts men

1anonymous10 · 2023-07-23T19:55:20+00:00

You're legit insane for thinking that is at all reasonable.

Also: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/z1566-21#n13

NoEmergency392 · 2023-07-23T01:39:19+00:00

🫡 who wrote and supported this draft to begin with...damn women in power....oh wait...no. no woman was involved or feminist. Mad a patriarchal views choices and laws, blame feminists GOT IT!!!

DamaloBlack · 2023-07-22T17:08:07+00:00

What the fuck is this comparison, are you retarded?

Nerus46 · 2023-07-22T17:34:03+00:00

In fact, with how many Ukranian men died, after their victory, your scenario for women is not 100% impossible. I think there was one war in South America when like 90% Of Men were wiped out (I think it was Urugway) and temporary this catholic state gave permission for harems to refil population.

frankieche · 2023-07-22T15:14:04+00:00

To be fair having children for women is a lifelong commitment. At least with the military, the surviving men can go back to their normal lives after it is over.

HikuroMishiro · 2023-07-23T23:30:48+00:00

To be fair, all the men getting conscripted should just identify as women. If the Ukraine still conscripts them because they are still actually men, support from the blue haired woke crowd will dry up instantly. It won't actually change anything because the BCF still needs the war to do their laundry, but at least a change in public perception would be a step in the right direction.

Title	If men in Ukraine are forced to go to the military, why aren't the women forced to birthing kids out in a facility? oh but that's slavery? THEN WHAT IS THE CONSCRIPTION THEN?? 😆
Author	gonnaenditthx197
Upvotes	433
Comments	133
Date	July 22, 2023 11:26 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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