Ramaswamy: Republicans must make men legally more responsible for kids

Embarrassed_Curve769 · 2023-11-08T18:12:23+00:00

'A missing lever that we really ought to embrace on the right is greater sexual responsibility for men, codified in the law, in an era of genetic paternity tests: put more of a burden, financially and otherwise, on the father when it's a confirmed paternity test,' he said.

Sure, let's just make sure that a paternity test is mandatory and a man who is not a father has zero responsibility for the child. Let's see who comes out better off from that deal.

Justinance- · 2023-11-08T19:25:14+00:00

I'm all for more responsibility as long as it comes with an equal amount of rights.

Fuzzy_Department2799 · 2023-11-08T19:26:17+00:00

What more responsibility do we need? Full custody and still send her a child support check every month? Oh wait that already happens. Fuck this guy.

No-Cable7745 · 2023-11-08T19:24:16+00:00

Make paternity tests for children born and STD testing before legally marrying obligatory and we have a deal.

Antarkian · 2023-11-08T20:24:21+00:00

If women get to opt out of motherhood with abortions, then men should be able to opt out of fatherhood. Equality is equal. Not one sided.

McFeely_Smackup · 2023-11-08T23:29:21+00:00

'A missing lever that we really ought to embrace on the right is greater sexual responsibility for men, codified in the law, in an era of genetic paternity tests: put more of a burden, financially and otherwise, on the father when it's a confirmed paternity test,' he said.

what the fuck is he talking about? I'd want him to tell me exactly what that means, what things he would "codify in law" that don't exist now.

it sounds like he's just pandering to female voters by saying "I will make being male illegal if that's what you want"

Background_Break2106 · 2023-11-08T20:46:10+00:00

Canadian here. Wow, if this guy gets even a sniff of power, you are screwed. The bigger question is, why pander to the feminist voter? Is he behind in that demographic? I'm speaking from experience here. " Be careful who you "vote" for the jackass here can't lead his way out of a wet paper bag," but that's our issue. Just for the love of all things actually decent in the world, don't elect this fool. Please

antifeminist3 · 2023-11-09T02:19:39+00:00

The above woman is in the USA.

In the USA a single woman has the right to make the following choices:

Have consensual sex
Not use birth control pill / IUD / any contraception
Not use the morning-after pill
Not use the RU-486 abortion pill
Not get an abortion

And by making those five choices, choose to bring a baby into the world and still have the legal right to not be responsible for the baby and abandon that baby at a hospital without questions asked (safe haven laws). And have no financial responsibility to the child.

A man has the right to choose to:

have consensual sex

And will be required by law to be financially responsible for the child if the mother chooses to put his name on the birth certificate.

Women have the legal right to not be financially responsible for their reproductive choices while men are required to be responsible if a woman's chooses it. Especially with the safe haven laws, there is no reason to kill a baby. Feminists say 'woman are embarrassed' and feminists used that to advocate for child abandonment. They do not have any excuse to be embarrassed anymore. If she still is embarrassed and kills the baby, then she thinks that her right to avoid embarrassment is more important than a baby's life.

This talk of 'you should not shame a woman for giving up her baby' is nothing more than creating a bias in favor of women, because these same feminists shame men for not wanting to be involved with the kid (when he never had any involvement in the decision--only she decides).

Few murderers are mentally ill; assuming a male baby killer is a monster while a mother killing her own baby means 'she needs help' is pure bias in favor of women and pure bias against men. That is not equality, but it is feminism.

designerutah · 2023-11-08T21:13:59+00:00

Guy has the wrong connection between choice and responsibility. As long as women can choose whether to take birth control, abortion, abandonment, adoption or keeping the child, she should also have full responsibility to provide for that child.

Far-Salt-6946 · 2023-11-08T22:19:59+00:00

Dude just lost my vote, was a good run while it lasted

okfornothing · 2023-11-08T23:54:13+00:00

Men don't even have the ultimate decision to be a father or not! Once the sperm has been acquired, the sperm is completely out of the hands of the donor!

Shouldn't women be held to the highest of responsibilities since a baby can only naturally be conceived in a woman's womb!

I don't understand these guys!

lastlaugh100 · 2023-11-08T23:06:11+00:00

Men bad, women good. Vote for me.

EfficientSimplicity · 2023-11-09T04:42:20+00:00

I used to like this guy

WareGaKaminari · 2023-11-09T11:13:36+00:00

This bitch

RichardPurchase · 2023-11-08T22:24:15+00:00

I agree with this, actually. Codify increased responsibility for fathers when a child is confirmed theirs, AND (equally important), mandated paternity tests in cases of dispute, as well as easy availability of both abortions (for females) and paper abortions (for males) prior to childbirth. A good legislative clean up in this area in general.

baby_budda · 2023-11-08T21:09:05+00:00

He means make it the law.

g1455ofwater · 2023-11-09T07:48:21+00:00

The left has the social safety net type of thinking where they talk about how there needs to be protections for the weak and the struggling. Now of course when it comes to men they are all: "Oh men your not included in our safety net, fuck you."

The Right isn't usually as hypocritical as the left like that but one way they come close is they hardly ever talk about getting boys better support. They obviously generally have a more traditional belief system with men and women and they have big expectations for all the responsibilities that men are supposed to shoulder but they rarely talk about ways to better support boys so they can grow up to be strong men.

UnoDRusa · 2023-11-09T12:20:47+00:00

This is what makes men’s rights so futile.. when people who are so powerful are still so incredibly uneducated on what fathers face

HighMageVegan · 2023-11-09T18:48:28+00:00

I would really like one of you fine people bring up our issues to him and see how he responds to them

Away_Entrance1185 · 2023-11-09T19:10:27+00:00

Yet these same people would never accept paper abortions from men.

Title	Ramaswamy: Republicans must make men legally more responsible for kids
Author	DefendTheLand
Upvotes	121
Comments	64
Date	November 8, 2023 6:01 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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