What can we realistically do to fight male only conscription?

geon2k2 · 2024-03-21T05:09:23+00:00

Preferably nobody should be conscripted, but if its a must everybody who votes should be conscripted.

My worry is that women will be pushed into management and higher ranking officers, will not see real combat and will command the men on the field.

If women conscription is not done properly it can be even worse than it is today.

pilotIet · 2024-03-21T04:12:14+00:00

There is little that can be done when men are considered socially replaceable and substitutable, and on top of that, there are many men who would die for this ideal of wanting to be replaceable and substitutable.

The only way is to do our bit for the organised struggle for men's rights, wherever we are, and let time bear witness to what we build, because you don't change overnight the gynocentric thinking that man must die in the hope that he will be able to reproduce or that his genes will expand.

disayle32 · 2024-03-21T04:44:12+00:00

In America, we could try the conscientious objector route. A male only draft is a violation of our 14th Amendment right to equal protection under the law, and I think that would make a strong, compelling argument for CO status.

WrongdoerWilling7657 · 2024-03-21T06:20:39+00:00

Stop caring what women think. Too many people hold their tongue because they're afraid of consequences for just telling the truth.

2020bowman · 2024-03-21T08:49:19+00:00

Identify as women en masse

reverbiscrap · 2024-03-21T04:22:10+00:00

Push for policy to either expand it to all (possible) or eliminate it altogether (lolol good luck).

Illustrious_Bus9486 · 2024-03-21T12:24:41+00:00

The first thing to do is to stop voting for the warmongers.

randomthoughts1050 · 2024-03-21T07:30:34+00:00

Too many men and most women still believe:

Men should be protectors & providers

They don't understand that duty/entitlement went away with equal rights.

entingmat2 · 2024-03-21T11:53:12+00:00

I have to take Hannah Wallen's viewpoint on the matter: require women to be conscripted. Society never cared that it was only men who were being conscripted, but once they see women are being conscripted as well, oh they'll care alright. Then we will see a push for government to end conscription for everyone across the board

tl;dr male-only conscription --> conscription for everyone --> conscription for no one

KelVarnsenIII · 2024-03-21T13:47:13+00:00

Sue in court, it's the only way to force SCOTUS to rule on it as a legal issue. Or you don't go and go to jail. They don't gove men an option. I'll be damned if I ever let my son serve in the a military for a government that hates men.

workingkenil15 · 2024-03-21T04:14:44+00:00

If a miracle happens, Canada will put their century initiative over NATO and let american draft dodgers in

HinduProphet · 2024-03-21T04:37:42+00:00

Threaten Treason and siding with the enemy ?

Salamadierha · 2024-03-21T07:48:25+00:00

Challenge everyone you vote for publicly on their positions, keep it simple as possible while making it obvious as possible that there's discrimination going on.
If they aren't opposed to conscription it'll show in their answers and even if it won't affect their voting bloc it'll make the politician feel uncomfortable, softening their position in future.

D1onigi · 2024-03-21T13:49:29+00:00

Vote a party that would avoid war as much as possible

Suspicious_Emu_7275 · 2024-03-21T04:52:34+00:00

Identify as a female?

1976Tom · 2024-03-21T11:49:40+00:00

Only associated with high value women….. I mean think about it. Women can sleep around, spend men’s money, etc, because men allow it

ChillbrosX · 2024-03-21T13:12:47+00:00

To fight male-only conscription, advocate for gender-neutral national service policies that encompass all genders equally.

SympatheticListener · 2024-03-21T13:40:17+00:00

In the gender identity checkbox, tick the female box.

FishBro4466 · 2024-03-21T05:46:50+00:00

We can fight it with guns, atleast in America.

Turbulent_Ad_9727 · 2024-03-21T05:46:05+00:00

I have to say I also don't know. I guess, politics would have to stop seeing men as a disposable resource.

Abyssal-rose · 2024-03-21T06:44:54+00:00

Post conscription and being shipped off to fight against a boogeyman, in this scenario.... Mass mutiny/slaughtering your own comrades. Nonstop wanton killing and thousands of similarly timed violent incidents will cause the government to cave into the demands of the people.
Violence is sometimes the only solution. Kidnapping government officials families and holding them for a ransom, arson and leaking information to the enemy are also viable methods, provided that the enemy doesn't force you to fight for them. If we're talking now. In reality it would be extensive social media awareness raising campaigns etc. I wonder what the Dwight Schrute option would be????

Different-Product-91 · 2024-03-21T08:39:43+00:00

The only possible way I see is extending it to all women, checking their ability in the same humiliating way it is done to men and using them in combat, too. It would magically disappear within some days.

Fraktalchen · 2024-03-21T06:17:34+00:00

Would changing gender work?

Otherwise the only solution would be to make males more valuable. Conscription becomes difficult when 90% of males were killed, aborted or incarcerated. When most males start to avoid women, birth rate will decline.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2024-03-21T15:58:20+00:00

Well bigest problem is you always still need people to run a country. Expecely in war. Supply. Making shells. Making provisions. And all that is also key.

So factory work and all the things that need to keep a war efforts going. Is often also vital.

Why i think. Constriction can be for everyone. But you can pick what part to a degree. Would be better.

But that probably will never happen.

Cause you can have 200 people run a factory.

Have 30 people none stop fixing broken stuff.

Have like 50 medics.

All be safe back of the line

But you can easily lose 5000. People in a half-day in a firefight. So the highest demand for more meat for the meat grinder that is war is never-ending.

So the only choice you often have is to go. Or jail. And many will probably choose jail. Cause they feel there country dont value them. So why fight for there country. What massively depends what country you are from of course.

But the fact is the more your country stands for nothing the less likely people want to fight or die to protect it. And thats the danger of the left. The more everyone feeling matter. Or some people opinions matter more cause x y or z for many Patriotism in them just dies out. And the will to safe or protect that idolize and being ok to die to preserve it. Is none existed.

And thats a fact. People dont choose to die for something light handedly. So think a lot of people wil not fight for there country if a world war would happen right now. Cause many countries stand for very little worth protecting on the levelto be ok to die for it to be preserved. But that's just my opinion.

Everyone will have there own and im ok with that. Its just mine view

yungmuneymachine · 2024-03-21T16:56:58+00:00

Conscription should be abolished period. If a war is worth fighting people will sign up

Mobile_Lumpy · 2024-03-21T05:50:49+00:00

Identify as non binary.

FakeNogar · 2024-03-21T08:01:18+00:00

We don't necessarily need to fight it. Most Western countries are enough of a joke in 2024 that any self-respecting man wouldn't fight for them, no matter what the state threatens them with.

skcuf2 · 2024-03-21T17:46:52+00:00

Women shouldn't fight alongside men. I was playing the division a few years ago and hit a group of people with a fire grenade. I can still hear the woman's screams to this day and that was just a video game. The mental toll hearing women die in battle would cause is too high of a price to pay for equality when we're not equal. It'd be better if we just stopped giving women preferential treatment in domestic laws.

tyYdraniu · 2024-03-21T12:12:57+00:00

we either fight and get seen as crazy like any other ideology that started like that, or idk maybe follow mgtow which seens to make some effect

reddboy1981 · 2024-03-21T15:55:18+00:00

Wonder what would happen to those men that live in one country but are citizens of another? Like all the young men in the US from Mexico and central America , would they be drafted too?

BravoPUA · 2024-03-21T16:40:25+00:00

Don’t vote for liberals or rhinos.

Sex change.

Move

YucatronVen · 2024-03-21T16:40:52+00:00

Protest.

No-Recognition-4033 · 2024-03-21T16:53:25+00:00

Write in to your representatives.

SG-Black-Kraken · 2024-03-21T19:10:21+00:00

If it happens, I’ll be taking a nice long vacation in Mexico.

plainoldusernamehere · 2024-03-21T20:42:13+00:00

Vote for anti war candidates. That eliminates everyone but libertarians.

periodicchemistrypun · 2024-03-21T21:05:33+00:00

Avoid war and work on the kind of prosperity that uplifts both sexes.

The bigger the economy, the bigger the budget for tanks and the smarter the scientists then the less young men in trenches.

Some problems require targeted fixing, others require detrageting, a lazy chicken hawk will always look at any piece of human meat as muscle if given the chance.

redidiott · 2024-03-21T21:13:51+00:00

Fight conscription as a form of slavery to the state. People fight, and even sacrifice their lives, for worthy causes all the time. It's up to the state to prove itself worthy of that, not to force people to act as if it is.

cracksparove · 2024-03-21T22:25:33+00:00

Don’t go

Ill-Vacation-4219 · 2024-03-22T02:22:56+00:00

Unpopular take but men only conscription is actually impelmented for a reason thats not just sexism. Woman biologically are weaker than men and it is a rare sight to see a woman make it through to be a ranger or special forces. Women simply are not suited for frontline infantry like men are. Coming from actual military expereince.

GANK_STER · 2024-03-22T02:50:19+00:00

Nothing. Seriously. Aside from the fact that gynocentrism prohibits things like this, it just wouldnt work.

Sending women and/or children to fight is a losing proposition. As much as it pains me to admit this, men are simply disposable in the grand scheme of things. If our species were capable of reproducing like insects, fish, or such, where one female could lay thousands of eggs at once, then it wouldnt matter, but with each woman only capable of having one child at a time every year or so, any loss of population takes a large number of women to have enough kids to replace that loss, the same is not true of men.

Theres a reason that societies evolved to where it was men who were sent to fight while the women and children stayed within the walls. Because societies that didnt and/or sent the women to fight along with the men, died....

PaxOmnibus · 2024-03-22T03:08:52+00:00

Protest the Selective Service System.

omega_dawg93 · 2024-03-22T04:04:13+00:00

here's what i want to see:

feminists fighting for women to be REQUIRED to register for selective service.
feminists fighting for women to receive equal jail sentencing for the same crime. (eg., female school teachers sexing young boys).

when i see feminists fighting for THAT type of equality, i'll believe their lies about fighting for equality.

Henchforhire · 2024-03-22T23:14:12+00:00

Friendly fire.

Kejdak · 2024-03-21T06:40:14+00:00

Trust me. You don't want to have females in your unit. (If it's not female only unit for example logistic). The problem is not usually in females but how guys acts around them. It fuck up unit

No_Finding_7970 · 2024-03-21T09:47:23+00:00

Why do you need that? Women have worse combat effectiveness than men, and are better off in the supporting industrie. Also, they have the value of bearing children. Even if it comes to that I would only support women only platoons, so they don't hinder and distract the male soldiers too much.

Deutalios_818 · 2024-03-21T05:51:42+00:00

Nothing. There is no fixing it. Prepare accordingly.

HotRaise4194 · 2024-03-21T18:26:52+00:00

Be a successful man and and don’t have any sexual assaults in your history to take you down is the way to fight this.

ManyGarden5224 · 2024-03-21T19:31:09+00:00

vote out the MAGAts

MrAnonPoster · 2024-03-21T12:42:16+00:00

We should not. Conscription should be male only.

Two_n_dun · 2024-03-21T04:14:21+00:00

I’m not sure we can. In (warranted) wartime, I wouldn’t want someone half my size and a quarter of my strength trying to drag/carry my 215 lb wounded ass to cover.

The videos of literal forced conscription, as I’ve witnessed on this sub mayyybe yesterday (?) are disturbing.

pilotIet · 2024-03-21T05:00:19+00:00

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No_Finding_7970 · 2024-03-21T14:29:28+00:00

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nowhereisaguy · 2024-03-21T11:23:01+00:00

Female conscription is an awful idea and if we ever get back to it should not be considered. If we get to that point, we are fucked.

Title	What can we realistically do to fight male only conscription?
Author	MaterialCheetah5423
Upvotes	209
Comments	82
Date	March 21, 2024 3:14 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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