Ask Abby: Wife went to a nudist resort without telling husband; uncomfortable husband chided for expressing "ownership" of her body

Punder_man · 2024-10-09T20:06:54+00:00

And yet... if her partner were to go to a strip club without consulting her how many people would be saying:
"That's a massive red flag!"
"He clearly doesn't appreciate you"
"Remember, happy wife, happy life!"

Yet another double standard we find in our world today...

Storm_Bjorn · 2024-10-09T19:35:34+00:00

And she doesn’t own his commitment

AndreasDasos · 2024-10-09T20:30:56+00:00

It’s also entirely symmetric.

The number of fucking obvious cases where radical feminists short-circuit and immediately scream bias because a woman has been blamed for something or got the short straw, and they could resolve it for half a second by checking if it really does work the other way… too damn high.

In this case, duh.

Glass-Historian4326 · 2024-10-09T21:06:11+00:00

He should do the exact same thing - see what she says. Also, she’s 100% cheating on him.

lord-of-the-grind · 2024-10-09T19:13:19+00:00

"And the two shall become one flesh". At the heart of marriage is the idea that your body is not entirely yours any more. Sounds like he made a bad choice in marriage. It's disturbing, but not surprising, that someone giving relationship advice does not understand the basics.

bifewova234 · 2024-10-09T22:35:47+00:00

Abigail Van Buren can go fuck herself

aBlackKing · 2024-10-09T23:04:39+00:00

This is why I don’t want to get married in today’s environment. Too many women just want to be individuals while married and I feel like it’s really only men who are even willing to make sacrifices for a wife. You couldn’t have said it any better. When you’re married, both husband and wife have to work together as a team and there’s no individualism. If we’re all going to be individuals, what’s the point of marriage?

randomthoughts1050 · 2024-10-10T08:24:57+00:00

She's checked out of the marriage.

F#ck Abby's daughter who is writing this. It's a box of victim blaming wrapped up with a gas lighting ribbon.

Instead of addressing the actual problem, she is making him out to be the monster.

AndreasDasos · 2024-10-09T20:32:02+00:00

If she does it, it’s empowering, you go girl. If he did it, all men are cheating pigs.

Radical feminism in the only religion with a bunch of moral commandments that only apply to outsiders (men) and insiders (women) are told that doing whatever the fuck they like is a virtue.

Mechanik_J · 2024-10-09T19:33:40+00:00

I guess consent isn't a thing anymore. There already wasn't a reason to get married, but I guess marriage is truly over with.

Burned_Out_Paradise · 2024-10-10T06:34:10+00:00

It cannot be said enough.. Young dudes, DO NOT get married. Take it from experience.. it’s not worth the money sucking prison sentence.

drtapp39 · 2024-10-10T11:04:08+00:00

Okay let's see how they react when he starts just giving free money to random women or buying them things. She has better not express any ownership of his money

Fearless_Ad4244 · 2024-10-09T22:00:50+00:00

Yes it is a violation of her right to bodily autonomy so a guy has not right to do that. Also if a woman wants to fuck someone else she has every right to do so since you misogynist freaks have no right to a woman's body./s

Guys this is what feminism is or what many women if not most women in today's day and age believe. They want to make guys cucks and simps who do whatever women want and can't have no boundary or shouldn't expect loyalty. They don't care about men wanting to preserve their mating success (speaking in evolutionary psychology terms). That's why men shouldn't be cucks or simps. They should have respect for themselves. And this is why I have a problem in this sub where sometimes masculinity is viewed as restricitive or that guys should be everything or that they can be feminine when this is how they want guys to be.

Magical-Hummus · 2024-10-09T19:50:14+00:00

People really should asks themselves: If exclusivity is not the point of a relationship then what is? Is the answer "love", then you want the romantic love exclusively from your partner. If the answer is "sex" then want sex exclusively from your partner.

You need both and both need to come exclusively from your partner as you exclusively only give it to them. This includes the exclusive part of sex where a partner is only one seeing the naked body of the other partner.

Look at the happiest couples you can find and look even at studies and you will see that the happiest couples are the most exclusive.

And yes, your partner "owns" you as you "own" them.

I_am_ChristianDick · 2024-10-09T22:35:14+00:00

Simple…

Divorce

neutralityparty · 2024-10-10T01:51:24+00:00

Marriage at this point a suckers bet for men. Only problem are the kids and getting fu** over by child support. Having gf is the the way to healthy life gents

iainmf · 2024-10-10T19:40:20+00:00

Classic case of a man expressing his feelings and then being told his feelings are wrong.

TomTomFH · 2024-10-09T22:14:32+00:00

As someone who has been going to nudist camps my entire childhood and adolescent+hippie European parents) I can tell you it's nothing hot or sexy about them.Sure ,there are some hot women there but also a lot,a lot, of old people naked..But the fact is she is a fucking hypocrite.

Newbosterone · 2024-10-09T21:55:12+00:00

Remember, she’s not your girl, it’s just your turn.

Until it isn’t.

One-Giraffe1614 · 2024-10-09T22:33:06+00:00

🙋‍♂️ Query:

If the Husband asks for Divorce will he have to pay Alimony? coz it's Women's Fault.

SymphonicAnarchy · 2024-10-10T12:45:40+00:00

Simple. Ask her if she’d be okay with her husband going to the same nudist resort the next weekend. Watch her reaction closely.

viridi-amator · 2024-10-10T12:50:06+00:00

Men in the west are expected to be cucks at this point...

marks1995 · 2024-10-10T18:53:55+00:00

By that logic, she could fuck the whole neighborhood and he should just have to deal with it. Because he doesn't own her body.

Top_Row_5116 · 2024-10-11T05:32:30+00:00

What happened to the idea that when two people get married, they become one? This is just weird and it feels like the wife did this specifically to spite the husband. I'd get marriage counseling if I was them cause this definitly isnt normal behavior from either side.

EverVigilant1 · 2024-10-10T14:22:36+00:00

--He doesn't own her body; but she owns his. She owns all the money he will ever earn with his body even if she divorces him

--She gets to do whatever she wants, show off her body at a nudist colony. But if he looks at porn, he's "cheated" on her. She can go to a nudist colony and not tell her husband. But if he goes anywhere and doesn't tell her, it's cause for divorce.

Women don't care about hypocrisy. They care only about their feelings and that they've "won".

SmooK_LV · 2024-10-10T06:50:05+00:00

Doesn't nudist resort only means being nudes while going to SPA and whatnot? There is nothing actively sexual about it. I been to nudist SPAs, saunas and swimming nude when I was a kid, teen and adult - there's nothing special about it.

Then again I live in a European country were we are more cool with nakedness.

I do agree this case doesn't imply body ownership, it's a relationship in bad shape. But I don't agree that this was a little adventure or comparable to strip club.

alkair20 · 2024-10-10T12:02:18+00:00

Nah fuck this American puritan bullshit.

In Europe going to the sauna, naked sun tanning etc. Is totally normal. It is bad to sexualize the naked body.

And trying to equate going to a nude resort or something similar to cheating or being "adventurous" is a horrible take that only an insecure person would make.

We should just stop sexualizing everything all the time.

FtM_Jax0n · 2024-10-10T13:55:20+00:00

Saw this post in the nudity sub and now here. A lot of people have the wrong idea of nudism and nudist resorts. Maybe a nudist beach would be different, maybe, but a nudist resort is very nice. It’s a non-sexual, family friendly setting to do normal activities in clothing you feel most comfortable in. There are babies, kids, teens, adults, and elders there. Resorts are very strict on it being non-sexual as well. Honestly seems like they have different views on being nude and if I were her I would divorce.

gfy_expert · 2024-10-10T16:31:03+00:00

Clickbair

Yoda-Anon · 2024-10-11T18:52:35+00:00

A wife that would do that has zero respect for her husband and the husband should look for a way out asap.

JealousIron7272 · 2025-04-04T20:13:23+00:00

Dear Sir Ms.Abby Can I married you with Wedding Nude at home for make Civil Servant Naked Man have you at home Forever after you agree my Dear Sir ?

tilldeathdoiparty · 2024-10-10T00:17:06+00:00

Not every argument in someone’s else marriage is a topic for men’s rights. I understand the sentiment but we need to stop giving this bullshit attention and focus on more serious issues.

2024-10-10T00:39:05+00:00

Yeah I can’t imagine caring about this at all.

Low_Rich_5436 · 2024-10-09T22:02:19+00:00

That's a very anglo debate. I don't see anybody in northern europe giving a single fuck about a spouse going to a nudist beach or a sauna.

Capable-Mushroom99 · 2024-10-10T01:11:17+00:00

There’s some hypocrisy involved here because in the reverse situation it would be assumed that the man had a sexual motive. But the guy is also being naive ; if your wife goes on vacation to a beach resort with her female friends they are going to be encouraging each other to do some things that they wouldn’t normally do. I don’t mean jumping in bed with some rando, but they’ll be happy to get compliments from some buff younger guy and be a bit flirty back. So in this case the time to have a discussion was before the trip ; after the fact as long as she’s honest and doesn’t try to hide what happened I don’t personally see any issue.

fanatic26 · 2024-10-09T19:53:50+00:00

Why is it not monogamous? Being nude does not equal being sexual. Stop pushing your morals onto other people.

Proof_Option1386 · 2024-10-09T19:08:44+00:00

Don’t you think there’s a difference between going to a nude beach with a bunch of fat naked people and their fat naked kids and fat naked grandparents and going to a nude beach filled with hot people looking to fuck? I don’t think the advice to find out more before reacting is so out of bounds here…

Regardless of whether you agree or disagree, how is this a men’s rights issue? Are you asserting that, had the genders been reversed, the advice in the article would have been different?

Embarrassed-Tune9038 · 2024-10-09T19:33:31+00:00

So would it be wrong for her husband to go to a strip club?

Contranovae · 2024-10-09T19:32:40+00:00

I have no issues with what she did.

Lived in DE and got very used to FKK and it's as unsexy as can be even with attractive young women around. To this day decades later I find suggestive dress and lingerie far more erotic than nudity.

Nudity by itself is not even remotely cheating, it depends on context.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-10-09T20:26:55+00:00

I go to nudist beaches without my partner, and without asking for permission. I go there to enjoy swimming, and most of the people there are not all that attractive anyway.

I think some people need to ask themselves why they think going to a nude beach has anything with flirting, sex, etc.

AriochBloodbane · 2024-10-09T23:04:14+00:00

Where did the wife go, so that I can.. I mean my friend can go there lol

Title	Ask Abby: Wife went to a nudist resort without telling husband; uncomfortable husband chided for expressing "ownership" of her body
Author	Glass-Historian4326
Upvotes	755
Comments	127
Date	October 9, 2024 6:55 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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