I was just looking at another post by u/Glassyeyebrian’s post on feminism radicalizing men and I noticed a hiccup in the logic of this famous quote. Their notion being that if misogyny is going to persists then so is misandry. My main issue here is that whenever revenge is executed on someone (regardless of the demographic) it’s always expressed on people who have nothing to do with their trauma. People they’ve never met nor will they ever meet again typically speaking. That’s the problem with vengeance and that’s the problem I have with this quote.
There’s numerous double binds when it comes to this quote also. A hoard of lefties will say that misandry is just hurt feelings and that men just need to ignore it and suck it up. However, whenever the topic of bullying comes up all of a sudden those feelings matter. They want men to express their emotions just not when it’s about misandry. They want men to open up to others just not when it’s about a large group of women who hurt them. They want men to talk about suicide and yet ignore “kill all men.” They talk about how the manosphere is influencing young boys and not how the “kill all men” rhetoric can do the same. It’s nothing but a stupid virtue signal.
Another thing to mention is that the whole “misandry is just a defensive response” goes against the notion of victims becoming the victimizer. You’ll often hear about how it isn’t an excuse for a perp to abuse a victim simply because they too were abused. Why does this notion start at men and stop at women? I’m a black male who has been hurt by numerous black women. I eventually learned to rid myself of my apathy for black women when I went to college. I can’t afford to say “I can’t stand black women” in lefty spaces. Yet I often see bw say this if not worse only to see lefty bm coddle to it in order to appease the black female gods. It’s nothing but a bunch of spinelessness. There have been black women who have made my butt clench. I still had to learn to grow and to change because it was gonna happen anyway. So when you hear this “misandry is a response” retort, ask them if it’s then okay for victims to start victimizing. Ask them if the peaceful black protesters of the civil rights movement would agree with this notion.
The last thing that I have issue with in this quote is the fact that it’s not even factual. Misandry does indeed kill/harm.
1.) War casualties and the conscription of men. 2.) Made to penetrate not recognized as rape. 3.) MGM/circumcision deaths 4.) IPV deaths 5.) False accusations 6.) No minister and council for men means there’s no way to come together to solve men’s issues as a group. 7.) Missing Indigenous men being forgotten 8.) The Instabul Convention and the Duluth model doing nothing for men. 9.) Paternity fraud
The list goes on. Remember this for later.
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