I think I finally (as a woman) cracked red pill…

TinyFlamingo2147 · 2026-02-18T20:24:20+00:00

The redpill is all about reinforcing and making men double down on their insecurities. Are you insecure about something, THAT is why women won't date you or she'll leave you, cheat on you or report you. Money, height, masculinity, physical attractiveness, intelligence. So yeah, if you are "better" in any way, you're triggering years of reinforced insecurities.

ConsultJimMoriarty · 2026-02-19T00:49:54+00:00

With the redpill, women are both scheming master manipulators out to steal your money, and also dumb as a sack of hammers that need to be told how to think.

There’s no winning for women.

GladysSchwartz23 · 2026-02-18T21:36:09+00:00

Men were pulling this kind of silliness long before redpill was a thing. It's just ordinary insecurity and misogyny - some men get very upset when a woman is better than them in any way, because having a category of humans who they are "superior" to is important to their self image. These are the same guys who will insist that any woman or minority is a "DEI hire," because the idea that people unlike themselves can succeed on their own merits really scares them.

I've unfortunately encountered plenty of these guys in my life, and even pretty well intentioned guys can stumble into these behaviors. For instance, one of my long ago exes once drunkenly accused me of thinking I'm smarter than him, started listing things he thought he could beat me at, and insulted my appearance. (He's otherwise a lovely person, and apologized later for this whole thing, and he would be horrified to be thought of as in any way misogynistic!)

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2026-02-19T00:56:00+00:00

Have you ever seen cosmetic products that market to women by playing on insecurities, including creating new insecurities out of things no one payed attention to? That's how the redpill markets to men. Except once men get in it, it doubles down on the insecurities and grievances, making the guys feel more miserable and yet dependent, so there is no offramp.

senorbuzz · 2026-02-18T21:35:37+00:00

I can kind of see where you’re coming from, but I see a lot of those traits sounding like general insecurity more than anything connected to the larger RP ideology

cloudpatterns · 2026-02-19T03:54:42+00:00

I think the red pill's core / main fallacy is the belief that either party is "THE PRIZE." "The woman THINKS she's the prize, so we have to fight back! No WE'RE the prize!" Female red pill stuff is the same way, in the other direction. It sounds like 2 toddlers screaming "No *I'M* the prize!" at each other. The prize is love and connection. The prize is each other. Everybody's the prize. Nobody's the prize.

Red pill men would put down any woman that is "above" them in any way, because in this worldview, life is hierarchical structure. A competition, not a team sport. The only way to stay up is to push down, or rip someone down who is above you. Kill or be killed, dominate or submit.

DenverKim · 2026-02-19T00:58:33+00:00

I mean no offense, but I feel like this is pretty much common knowledge to anyone outside of red pill. It essentially all stems from deep deep insecurity.

When you look at the majority of toxic behavior from most people, it almost always stems from deep insecurity on their end. This applies to both men and women. Toxic people are often toxic BECAUSE they are insecure. And it can even result in abusive and dangerous situations.

Aside from cases of certain severe mental illnesses, I don’t think I’ve ever known of an abusive or dangerous person who wasn’t also incredibly insecure. Violent husbands, family annihilators, even school shooters… they are practically always very insecure men.

This is why I do not pity and I do not attempt to help people who exhibit extreme signs of insecurity. I avoid them like the plague because you cannot lift them up (I’ve tried), but they WILL attempt to drag you down to their level if you let them.

Hotsaucekarina · 2026-02-19T03:51:06+00:00

I have to say this comment section passes the vibe check. I was expecting ppl to come at you for having confidence. Phewph.

And yes- insecure ppl definitely can choose to try to bring you down to their level. I think it's also known as 'tall poppy syndrome.'

OwnerSebi · 2026-02-19T15:12:18+00:00

I think the red pill ideology is more about "the woman being the prize".

It's not about you being better, it's about them feeling worthless because they cannot measure with you FOR you. It's not jealousy born from feeling challenged, it's fear born from an attack to someone's worth.

These conditions usually come from personal experiences. It's more sad than annoying, because you are told (and you see with your own eyes) that nobody wants a man that is socio-economically beneath them. So, a woman that is above average wants a man that is above her.

Whether the individual woman agrees with this or not, that is the social sentiment. Which is why red-pillers are traditional; women who only want peace, love, and kids, are more realistically loyal and easy to satisfy and love.

According_Sundae_917 · 2026-02-18T20:44:58+00:00

RP offers a framework for understanding the transactional aspects of romantic relationships and recognise one’s own ‘value’ to the opposite sex - and the degree to which they can attract women they want.

So yes, an attractive, successful and confident woman would likely trigger a RP man’s insecurities because he instantly recognises those attributes and understands (according to RP) he cannot obtain her - if he believe he isn’t enough. So I think you could be right that if you are someone your exes would perceive to be ‘higher value’, they might feel insecure.

That could manifest in resentment, anger, controlling or abusive behaviour.

I’m curious - were your exes explicit and open about their red pill ideas or did you ‘discover’ them to be into that ?

Also - as a woman, do you think there’s truth to aspects of RP?

Apart-Cookie-8984 · 2026-02-19T16:00:36+00:00

Ok, real talk, a lot of people on here are saying it stems from deep rooted misogyny, which, isn't untrue most of the time, it's very true in many cases. But for some guys, like myself, we got red pilled because we experienced genuinely horrible situations with women while still doing our best to be supportive and assuring, and we may have dealt with it so much that it left us jaded.

Either way, it stems from feelings of insecurity and bitterness that aren't properly channelled positively.

SuchSelection4252 · 2026-04-24T05:09:52+00:00

My favorite is the i didn't grow up with a silver spoon type.

They're always putting you down while asking for worship in return.

Get a dog if you want a mindless fan

CherryPieAlibi · 2026-02-20T04:03:23+00:00

You’re not wrong. Here are popular things I’ve heard when I was in the redpill, and from my own dad, to backup your points:

“An educated/career driven woman is unattractive to a man.”

“Women who’ve been to too many places (restaurants, states, countries, etc) are a red flag, probably whores.”

“If a woman is a nurse, lawyer, doctor, has a PHD etc, she’s probably a 304. Red flag.”

“Women would be happier if they weren’t as educated, and had more time to focus on child bearing and housekeeping.”

“Women box themselves into insanely high standards when they make too much money or have too good of a standard of living.”

All things to not only bolster men’s ego so they don’t feel inadequate, but also to shame women for ever surpassing or becoming equal to a man.

My own father, self proclaimed red pilled alpha king, got with a woman 2 years older than him who had 3 children by 3 different men. She also made double what he made. He convinced her to quit her job after two years, and gloats about never having to cook or clean (mind you he was a single father who shared in the chores with me and my sister, and cooked every meal) anymore because “men shouldn’t have to do that”. He stayed under her at first letting her pay for everything, drive him around, cook and clean while she worked as well. Then he started making more money and told her to quit. Fast forward four years!!! Out of the blue he decided to move several states away with only a couple weeks notice, led her on during this time to believe he’d move her and the kids into his new house, then broke up with her! After 6 years! And then had the audacity to tell my 17yo sister to focus on family and kids before career and education…thankfully my sister is intelligent asf and immediately called him out.

TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK · 2026-02-18T20:42:12+00:00

it is really poor form to consider yourself above or beneath any person.

Working_Ad_7192 · 2026-02-20T19:24:45+00:00

God you're all so wrong.

It's like everyone who's anti-redpill, only understands how it makes them feel, and base what they think it is on how it makes them respond.

It's like none of you have actually listened to or followed the content creators, so none of you actually know what they think.

You're not gonna get anywhere with getting ppl outta it, if your arguments against it have the wrong basis.

Soft-Neat8117 · 2026-02-19T18:42:53+00:00

This just sounds like humble bragging.

Fantastic-Board5058 · 2026-02-19T06:35:02+00:00

Coming from a male perspective there is also not clear what role men have these days or even how to treat women.

Back in the 1950's it was very clear that as a man you needed to get a job that could support a wife and a family. If you did that and met a woman through friends or community groups who thought that you could provide for her then she probably would marry you.

Those two factors are things that don't exist today. Most men can't get a job that would allow them to support a family with a single income. Women also have more economic freedom so they don't need a husband or male relative to support them.

Other men like me might find it confusing how to treat a woman I want to date. In previous generations there were clear rules about these things which men and women for the most part followed. These days it seems women want to be treated differently to how there grandmothers were but it isn't explained to men how to adapt to these changing preferences.

I also seems that technology has enabled people to become more isolated from other people. If you work from home for example you won't see as many people as working in person.

The trend of people engaging less in community activities that Robert Putnam wrote about in his book Bowling Alone seems to have gotten worse. That could mean that people are not socialising as much as previous generations.

comfortbadger · 2026-03-18T20:15:15+00:00

My own experience is that some women CAN go beyond red pill framing and see the man rather than job/status ext. this is particularly true if the woman had a good relationship with their father. Men are more ‘human’ to her.

The problem is her friends. Can she justify him to her when he is not obviously rich or of high status? This becomes less of a factor as she ages- she trusts her own judgement more- but often this is too late for children.

Title	I think I finally (as a woman) cracked red pill…
Author	Sunflowersfordinner1
Upvotes	42
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Date	February 18, 2026 8:14 PM UTC (5 months ago)
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