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October 16, 2018

Alright, serious question. When I first starting seeing my LTR she would suck the cum out of my balls like her life depended on it. After being together a little over two years I haven’t gotten a blowjob in months. Sex is good and frequent but the blowjobs have dropped off substantially. I’m wondering, what is the MRP way to get more of this? Every time I’ve tried lately it’s an excuse. Usually “my gag reflex is really bad lately” or “you just worked out I’m not doing that.” I’m not sure how that dynamic changed but it has. What am I doing wrong here? Again, sex isn’t the issue but goddamn, I just want my dick sucked every now and then.

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Title Blowjobs
Author SpitAndGIory
Upvotes 13
Comments 53
Date 16 October 2018 02:32 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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long term relationship

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret28 points29 points  (7 children) | Copy

1) be attractive

2) don’t be unattractive

3) Passive dread

4) Winning

[–]RPWolfAlpha_as_Wolf_2.027 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy

  1. Wash your dick after a workout.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

My wife will clean my cock if I want it. Sweaty balls may be a deal breaker for some women but if they were truly attracted and desired the man I doubt it. Although the hygene may give a helping hand in increasing your attractiveness since lacking elsewhere.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret20 points21 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is just attraction 101. 2yr LTR makes you boring, predictable. She doesn't NEED to do that anymore - you hang around provisioning anyway.

What do you do about loss of attraction? Dread - remember the first few steps of dread are nothing to do with proving you're a player who can crush pussy, it is about being high value. Man of action, you're busy, connected, in demand. You're the boyfriend her friends dote on.

[–]rocknrollchuck10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

I think it was u/Rian_Stone who said "Here is my go to answer and gut feeling on BJ's: They are a mate guarding technique. So my theory and experience is BJ's increase in frequency and quality when there is competition or some chance I am going to bail on the relationship."

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

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[–]470_2_700_nm2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Oh man the return home from business trip action was good last time I came home.

The the following night, right back to major bullshit and shitstorm!!!

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

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[–]470_2_700_nm0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well maybe shitstorm is a poor way to explain it. We all were away at a beach house with kids and the first night her hamster went fucking crazy thinking I’d been banging sluts on the trip, and it was pretty funny so I had fun with it and so did she. Effort and quality of ensuing session was 100%.

Then the next day, after a day at the beach and everything normal, she confronts me with her continued hamstering thinking that I’m indulging in sluts. I think I just stopped being able to have fun with it, and frame came apart maybe IDK. Maybe drinking had to do with it - there is a sweet spot in there as you well know.

Possible I failed to add comfort. Could be after her lizard brain got what it needed, her long term provisioning circuitry went fucking off the charts knowing this specimen’s seed is swimming inside of her whilst ovulating. All conjecture of course. But that’s my take on it.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Take what you want. Next time you or her are about to bang, get on top and straddle her chest like you are about to titty fuck her. Put your dick in her face and if she swats your cock away, declines, or gives some bullshit excuse, just smile and say "OK. Maybe next time." Put your clothes back on and leave the room. Let her know you don't need a blowjob from her. She'll get the message loud and clear.

I used to tolerate shitty, selfish bedroom behavior. I don't anymore. Just make sure you have a strong frame because rejecting the starfish (or the like) makes them go fucking crazy.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I Always keep baby wipes in the bathroom

1) Wiping with TP sucks.

2) Easy to give your boys an over/under prior to oral

3) Same goes for her.

If your not getting BJs then she finds you repulsive and doesn’t want to suck your dick. This is after all a service performed for you primarily.

Her joy is doing it to a man she find attractive. Its mental for her. Physical for you.

Repulsive is either physical, mental or both.

When you are attractive women will suck it anywhere, anytime.


In regards to the gag reflex comment. Believe it or not I got that from my current GF about a month in. But not for the same reason you did.

So I helped her to untrained it by hanging her head upside down off the bed and face fucking her gently until she learned to control it.


[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

So have one of the other 4 females intrested in you smoke your pole.

You know what we call an ltr that won't suck cock around here?

A plate.

Downgrad to plate.

Next plate.

[–]RedPillCoach4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Blowjobs are all about the woman giving to the man. They are given by women who are essentially overcome with attraction for their man. When they are withdrawn this is often the first indication of a loss of attraction.

Another interpretation treats refusal to provide blowjobs as a shit test. She doesn't want to please her husband and even a minor inconvenience (i.e. 'gag reflex') is enough to put her off. This is why no blowjobs. She doesn't want to please her husband and she doesn't feel any pressure or need to please her husband. She likes to get pounded so she is not turned off by you so much that she is willing to give that up.

I always find it fascinating how women pull out all stops to hook the man. Suck the cum out like a giant fleshy straw. Wake up blowjobs. Every day blowjobs. Screaming at the ceiling pleasure....and then......."I do."

"I really never liked giving blowjobs."

What happened to your little cock hound? She won. Fini.

How do you turn it around? Like I said in my recent video, women will not behave appropriately with men UNLESS THEY ARE FORCED. When I say that I don't mean physical force. I mean you must jam a decision tree right up her ass. You must put it in her mind over a period of months that you ARE going to get your dick sucked. She has control over where she puts her lips, but YOU have control over where you put your dick.

Pull away time and attention. Learn game and start practicing. Become the type of man who gets blowjobs from other women and if your wife fails to rediscover her taste for your cock before a younger and prettier girl discovers it then I guess that was her decision. My body my choice works both ways my brother.

[–]DanG33 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The frequency and quality of unsolicited Blow Jobs is in direct inverse proportion to the security she feels in the relationship, including her perception of the probability that you might be poachable by anther woman.

[–]JDRoedellRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How much comfort, time and attention are you doling out for free? I’m willing to bet it may be too much. Do you live together? If so, that’s another strike. She’s not your wife, you’ve got options here.

[–]markpf732 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Idiots - all of you focused on hygiene. That should be a given that you could serve raw bar off your taint at any given time.

When does a long term relationship blow you often and enthusiastically?

It’s when there is that subtle insecurity and she is just making sure you don’t taste like another woman.

[–]RedPillCoach1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are much closer to the truth than most of these idiots are prepared to believe. It's almost like a second red pill.

[–]coconutscentedcat3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Clean yourself more. Wash it in sink after peeing if you think sex is happening. Grab her head and push it down there when you're horny; if she doesn't let you then it's on her for ruining the mood. Tell her how much you enjoy it, and when she does it tell her that she's amazing at it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Usually “my gag reflex is really bad lately”

Translation: the thought of blowing you makes me gag.

She hasn't physiologically changed since she was blowing you regularly (w/o gagging, I'm presuming), so the change is purely psychological. I'd take it as an early warning that attraction is waning. Maybe only slightly since she's still DTF, but it's definitely trending the wrong way.

Increase (passive) dread accordingly.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

“After being together a little over two years”

There’s your answer right there homo.

In the beginning, she was on her best behavior- auditioning for the LTR role and you bought it: hook, line, and sinker.

Did she have a “gag reflex issue” with Chad back in high school underneath the stadium bleachers? Maybe after his huge cock rammed the back of her throat..

Shut the fuck up faggot.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

The blowjob section of the sidebar is...

well, I'll just let you find it the hard way

[–]Red_Ninja71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're in a similar place as myself, in that my wife no longer wants me to CIM (though she will do oral aside from that) and won't do anal. What Ive learned is to increase SMV, frame, and dread. I think a big thing is when you are working on your MAP, she starts realizing that she is a complement to your life, but that she really isn't a necessity. This starts changing the whole relationship dynamic.

I once read an article by a feminist saying that women will usually only do anal unless the man has implicitly or explicitly threatened to leave her. Of course, she saw this as a negative on men. In completely solipsistic fashion, she failed to see how this reflects negatively on women.

In the past I've had a couple GFs who didn't want to do certain sexual things, but when I decided I was ready to break up with them they were suddenly on board with whatever I wanted to do. I now see that I need to be the man they are willing to go all out for all the time, even years into a relationship.

[–]470_2_700_nm1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

“This dick won’t suck itself”.

[–]SuperCrazy071 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This isn't gonna work. OP's girl isn't attracted to him and doesn't give a shit if he's sad that his dick isn't getting sucked.

[–]470_2_700_nm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

IDGAF if it doesn’t work for him. It didn’t work the first or 5th time either for me mother fucker, but eventually, she got it. And she cares enough to act, because the assertions are valid. It won’t suck itself. And it needs to be sucked.

[–]helaughsinhidden3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Be clean.
Shower after workouts, wipe from front to back, maybe some cologne under the sack. I shower before bed instead of in the morning because I could care less to wake up early to feel 5% more "ready" for work when I have a 200% higher chance of blowjobs if I just showered at night.

Time it better.

Feelz are everything to a woman. If she is happy with you, she has always been happy. If she is mad at you, she's always been mad. Making sure you have her in a good mood is crucial. Once she is, then all past feelings are gone and she is ready to go.

Don't ask her to do it.

Asking is weak. You should already be gaming her on the regular, so when you are kissing her just shift gears on her. Make a bit more noise and show some passion when kissing. Then stop, unzip, take it out, look at her with anticipation. She will know what to do next and will....this is important... already have her feelz activated.

The duality of the slut in her.

In every woman, there is a slut. In every slut, there is both the guilt and shame about it and her love of cock and doing trashy stuff. She is both. I like to tease my wife about "what a slut she is" and "I know how much she likes to suck cock". Always grinning, always approving, always complimenting. The more noise or talk I use when she's going at it, the more often it seems that she will initiate too. Saying things like "slower" "more" "don't stop" "that's it" "keep rubbing that spot" and similar really gets her to get into character. This is how I helped her go from occassional bad head to regular good head and cumming in her mouth often instead of always ending in HJ or switching to PIV.

[–]roberthenri1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't ask her to do it.

You're right, you don't ask. You tell.

None of this "look at her with anticipation" shit. In OP's case she will just feign ignorance and she'll sense weakness from him not telling her what he wants.

"Put your mouth on it." If she gives any kind of excuse you hold frame and tell her again. She wants to be submissive, you just have to give her the command to obey.

[–]helaughsinhidden1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

YMMV for any close, none of it works without frame to be honest.

[–]markpf73-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

And dance like a monkey

[–]helaughsinhidden2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was it the showering that was asking too much effort in your opinion? LOL

[–]nantucketghost2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Take a shower, as you’re heading to bed drop your calendar that your dick is not going to suck itself

If you were going to wait for her to do it... it is just not going to happen. Be upfront and tell her what you want. Do not be a girly man. Gag reflex? Unless you’re trying to shove your cock down her throat she is in full control and that should not ever be an issue. So if you were thrusting, stop that.

A little 69 action might be needed also.

After all of that, if there are still excuses, turn around walk away after telling her that if she will not you’re going to find someone else will

[–]spexer9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I disagree.

Folks, Acta Non Verba is a key element to MRP.

IE: your actions should do almost all of your speaking.

When you get into verbal negotiation, you have already lost.

[–]dandar460012 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

How is this the top upvoted answer? You're telling him to negotiate attraction and to go rambo if it doesn't work? The correct answer is to up his attractiveness including his personal hygiene, kino his girl and implement more dread, IE life apart from her. Right now she doesn't feel like doing something for him cause he is not giving her the feels. Nothing fixes that like more kino and dread from an attractive man.

[–]RedPillCoach2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

after telling her that if she will not you’re going to find someone else will

So close! You made it to the final sentence without going off the rails. Don't tell her shit. Show her. When you walk out, you don't have to say a word. Just walk out. When you leave the house to go to the mall to practice gaming random women you don't say a word. She will know and by not saying anything you turbo charge the hamster.


[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

IDGAF what TRP says about reciprocation but if you’re not doing it too then don’t be surprised. Also, if you want your dick sucked take a damn shower. You wouldn’t put a dirty sweaty pussy in your mouth would you?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My wife would rather just suck it than 69. When I go down on her she always just makes me start sex after 30 secs. She gives 2 bjs a week and initiates more then more than i do.

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