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Anger is spiraling out of control.

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BaronVonNrx
August 29, 2016
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Dread level 2 SS for a year (meme) Intense gym bro split for a month

6' 175 12% body fat Read most of sidebar working on WISNIFB Wife is a 7-8. I am probably a 7.

In some past posts people have pointed out my anger and that my wife would be perfectly aware of how angry I am.

Well she bitched at me yesterday for reaching for her wallet(to look through it) after she told me she had less than a dollar. I know for a fact the idea of looking through her wallet never occurred to me but I very well may have gestured to her that made it look like I was going to do this. (We were in the car and a parking attendant was asking for money, I wanted my wife to check her wallet.)

Anyway, after parking my wife kept bitching about it, I should have just looked at her cockeyed and STFU, instead I was seething with rage. I told her "whatever, the thought of going through your wallet never crossed my mind".. I told her this a few times after she insisted that I was reaching to go through it.

I then said "whatever, I am so fucking angry at you, Ive been seething with anger and it's not going away."

On my post about birthday presents I sent her a text that I was angry at her and that's why I didn't get her anything. A poster suggested that she would know that I am angry and I don't need to say as much.

Anyway I am here to say that when I told her how angry I was it really caught her off guard.

She clearly doesn't want to talk about it but I have a desperate need to explain to her why I am so angry at the predicament I am in.

I want to tell her A. I am very unhappy with the state of the relationship B. I am not happy C. My kids are very important to me D. I don't know if I can fix this relationship E. I am angry that I am in a position where if I choose to pursue happiness it may hurt my kids.

After thinking about it for the last 4 hours I am not angry at my wife as much as I am angry at the situation I am in.

I do feel however that my wife needs a fucking clue that I am thinking of nuking the relationship. She now knows I am angry but won't pursue asking me about it, she has always hated talking about our relationship whatsoever and likely refuses to think about it.

Now blast away and tell me how bad of an idea this is. I will try to lift the anger away today but my anger continues to build up over this and I feel that my wife needs to know. Yes I am only on dread level 2 and this is way too early for me to even think about this kind of stuff.


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Title Anger is spiraling out of control.
Author BaronVonNrx
Upvotes 6
Comments 19
Date 29 August 2016 01:36 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/207164
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/50515y/anger_is_spiraling_out_of_control/
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (31 children) | Copy

You DEER too much, no frame.

You're not mad at her, you're mad at your shitty bitch management, lack of frame, and constant need for validation hitting a brick wall.

Whatever your goal is (if you've even made one) I can guarantee victim puking to the wee little girl will only end up with you being a putz.Don't be a putz.

My question:

I know sticking your finger an an electical socket is a bad idea, but I really want to do it. Please tell me how stupid I am

Do you want mommy to punish you? Revisit your dread, because you have no frame, get back on 1

[–]BaronVonNrx0 points1 point  (30 children) | Copy

I am still stuck at thinking that dread will not work if my wife doesn't believe that in the end I would be willing to leave her.

I was handling shit tests much better when internally I never considered divorce as an option. Now that i am starting to believe it has to be an option, I am raging inside. Outside I am quite stoic outside of telling her I was angry at her, she doesn't know why. She had trouble sleeping tonight as did I, so I am sure she had to think of it some.

I feel like she needs to know that this relationship is not ok at status quo.

My wife thinks things are hunky dory and they aren't not for me.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (29 children) | Copy

I feel like she needs to know that this relationship is not ok at status quo.

OK, for the lurker, I'ma break this down. OP talks about his feelings, as if they are valid. This is femspeak, and he has no uterus to pull it off. He is also outsourcing his duty to fix his life, puts it on her. As if he talks to her about his 'feelings' and the pussy wettens for him, and she becomes submissive.

I don't know where he got this from, but it sure as fuck wasn't from here. This is the quintessential 'sprinkle a little alpha on it' I talk about all the time. Notice every thought has an echo? That from his head being in the anal cavity of the lady.

OP, your frame is shit. If you are going to do this, you have to do it 100%, no half assing. Your relationship is dead, and you have to be OK with that. You are moving on, building a 100% awesome life, for you. She no longer has a say in it, or influence on it. Right now she is a sparring partner. She exists 100% to teach you how to be less of a bitch for the next woman, period. Divorce isn't the 'option' it's the certainty, the only discussion now is over timing. This is your branch swing, get ready.

From now on. you need neither her blessing or counsel before doing something. She needs to understand, or acknowledge nothing. You build your bod until 20 year olds are using kino unprovoked. When you pull the plug, you need to have the options to replace her that week. You don't need to take them up on it, but have a harem on speeddial so you can do so. Financially, you need to discuss your financial and legal options, with a professional. Then develop a plan to detach, keeping what's important to you, in your hands. Learn to let go of which you cannot save (e.g. 50%, possibly your kids if she's crazy)

Again, none of this needs her blessing, or counsel. If you aren't happy with the status quo, change the status quo. Stop asking mommy to do it for you you pussy.

As it stands now, whatever benefits you've developed on your RP journey are fake, they are shit, and you need accept that, so you can actually build properly. Have you read the Bluepillprofessors book on dread yet? Short of holding your dick, there isn't a better guide, autistic-proofed against fucking this up.

Since you think and talk too much, take a gander through my writing as well. I have blog setup. It's not comprehensive at all, but it hits a few points to unfuck your mindset.

Next time, come back with more than your weekly bitch session about the harpy at home you call your 'love of your life'

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

When you pull the plug, you need to have the options to replace her that week.

That's a need? Now who's talking like a woman? lol

When he's ready he won't care.

Edit: to clarify it's very easy to read what you wrote as advising disconnecting your need for external validation from your wife and attaching it to some new fantasy spigot. It's the need for external validation that needs to be eradicated. Women are a byproduct not a goal. You're mostly helping him move goal posts but playing with the same scorecard. Basically telling Charlie to keep making kicks because eventually a some new Lucy won't yank the ball. Maybe it works as a pep talk, but it's pretty far from the sidebar.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

If you want to talk about mindset, I'm all game for it. Seems outside the scope for what OP would benefit from ATT.

At this point, whatever words required get his frame out of her ass.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

That comment is structured as a lession i.e. general advice broadly addressed to uninitiated lurkers tailored to OP's situation. If that wasn't your intent, so be it. He's already angry and I get that you're trying to mold and redirect his anger. Where he is is that he wants to be rid of his anger. You're just encouraging him to rambo. The anger is already there, piling more anger on isn't going to help. He needs to read.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Are you trying to fix me, or OP?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don't really care. I comment to guide my past self.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Keep it that way, it's a good idea

[–]BaronVonNrx-1 points0 points  (22 children) | Copy

I am having a very hard time killing my relationship, this is me struggling with that process. I have an extreme aversion to divorce.

"Love of my life." I just don't want to fuck up what I do have and risk fucking my kids over.

Thanks for the bitch slap, I have to come to grips with accepting my relationship is dead and move forward.

I came here too early most people have already had "talks" with there wives about their relationships to no avail far before these stages.

I've never even had a talk to her about any of this. I need to take that step so I can move on.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am having a very hard time killing my relationship

No, you are having a hard time killing you ego. That you seemingly cannot do that is the direct cause of your relationships death. You are invested in her approval and your wife (being a woman) is repulsed by that.

You know who needs approval? Little boys! Do you want to be married to a sexually twisted woman who likes to fuck little boys?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy

I translate struggling as you being afraid.

Want to kill fear? Preparation. You haven't talked to a lawyer, developed a plan, or even walked through the use case, have you?

Do these things, when you know the dollar amount, the year kids are allowed to pick their parent to live with (12 to 16 usually) and know the worst case scenario, you'll find fear is that bullshit lie you feed yourself, because change, is hard.

Maybe you'll get lucky, and she starts actin right and you don't need the nuke anymore, but fucking prepare it.

[–]BaronVonNrx0 points1 point  (19 children) | Copy

It's officially 18 in my state; my children prefer me by a large margin and it would devastate them. But your right I haven't developed a divorce plan. The idea of divorce is going to scare the crap out of my wife she would never go through it herself ever. I need to have a serious talk to her so we can fix things together or I move on myself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy

They get over it... I did.

The idea of divorce is going to scare the crap out of my wife she would never go through it herself ever.

Also, don't kid yourself. War brides are a thing, the moment she flicks the switch in her head, it's as if you were never worth a damn to begin with.

Not that it matters, you clearly haven't been listening or reading anyways with shit like this:

I need to have a serious talk

acta non verba. you cannot control of influence her, you can only control you, and smart people will latch on.

[–]BaronVonNrx-1 points0 points  (9 children) | Copy

Will dread work if she doesn't believe I would ever divorce her?

[–]anythingincRed Beret4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

she has to pay for what I bring to the table.

I'm going to gloss over everything I could say about that sentence (covert contracts, ego, validation etc...) and just ask:

What do you bring?

A paycheck, gifts, dinners, fathering, emotional tampon, respite from loneliness, physically fit man....you say she's 90th percentile for her age and still a 7/8 at 40 (meaning a 22 year old Chad would still take her home from the club? Really?)...she would have had all that without you, and would have all that again within a month after you are gone from another man, plus your child support and alimony. She is not a snowflake, and neither are you. A man that makes more money, with grown kids already, is waiting on match dot com to help her raise your kids, and he might get all the sex you never have. Not fucking you and your comfortable certainty is easier though, and thus here we are.

90th percentile women have never had to worry about a thing in their lives...and they aren't just going to start being uncomfortable because Mr. BB throws a tantrum. The only thing they dread is loosing a rare true Alpha Provider who brings the tingles, which you haven't been for 20 years. You dread loosing her, and it shows, but instead you act like she should dread loosing you and display her genuine feminine sexuality and charm. No wonder she can't talk about it with you because she can't process the cognitive dissonance it must take to act the way you do.

I'm the prize here why is my autistic BB acting up? He can't really think he deserves my full sexual agency now after all these years

You are SO convinced that your wife should dread loosing you, but she obviously doesn't. Dealing with you is just easy and more comfortable than the vague existential uncertainty of replacing you.

Will dread work if she doesn't believe I would ever divorce her?

Back to the previous statement, and what u/stonepimpletilists said. Right now, she doesn't care, she's just comfortable. You can keep on being an autistic faggot and throw around the threat of divorce a lot until she's uncomfortable enough to actually want to leave, go back to being your comfortable self, or quietly unfuck yourself, realize divorce is an option you can handle, build your frame, increase your SMV, and learn to bring the tingles and up the levels of dread until LVL 10/11/12/Divorce and/or she begins to come around.

You can see the difference right? A comfortable mediocre man (at least to her perception) making her uncomfortable enough to be okay with him leaving...versus an exceptional man being himself and she has to work to keep him around.

And sadly, here is the thing, she might love being comfortable. The existential dread required for sexual urgency is just too great for some women, and if yours gets too high she'll just implode, let you leave, and find somebody else to be comfortable with. You won't ever know until you:

unfuck yourself, realize divorce is an option you can handle, build your frame, increase your SMV, and learn to bring the tingles and work up the levels of dread.

Maybe you can get to level 11/12 and she is fine with it. She gets to be comfortable and not fuck you, you get your nuclear family, and you get all the sex a man of your exceptional SMV deserves. Just like the old days right? Win-win.

20 years means 20 months. You can get the sex and life you want, just maybe not with her. The levels of dread approximate the process of becoming an exceptional man who is tired of his wife's shit and getting read to leave. I don't think talking about divorce is needed. Go talk to a lawyer, develop the OI needed to unplug. But don't jump the gun if you want to give her a chance.

[–]BaronVonNrx-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

Thanks for your full response

The existential dread required for sexual urgency is just too great for some women, and if yours gets too high she'll just implode, let you leave, and find somebody else to be comfortable with. I believe this is very very very very likely.

She doesn't dread losing me because there has been absolutely no threat of me leaving, ever. I also do not believe she has the slightest idea as to how to make me want to stay if I wanted to leave.

My wife never dated anyone before me and has never had the dread of losing me or anyone for that matter.

[–]2gunsgetsome2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Will dread work if she doesn't believe I would ever divorce her?

It doesn't matter if it works on HER. Reframe it as "Dread works on YOU". You get to find your balls. You get to build a warrior body. You get to do what you want and not what you don't. You get to be more awesome. You get to dress sharp. You get to be social. You get to interact with other, hotter women. You get to give less fucks.

Just don't say "Baby, I'll never divorce you." Also don't say "We're divorcing unless you shape up." If she sees you doing all that awesome shit for yourself, she might do the math. Or she might not. It doesn't matter.

x2 on what SPT said about knowing the exact cost and having a plan. No pilot ever really wants to eject, but they all pack a parachute. Put together a bug-out kit and just know it's there.



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