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Banksy, satirical street artist and political activist posted this on his Facebook - comments are a goldmine.

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Title Banksy, satirical street artist and political activist posted this on his Facebook - comments are a goldmine.
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Date June 29, 2014 9:40 PM UTC
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[–][deleted] 12 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 72 points73 points74 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

"Your opinion isn't the same as mine so I've just lost all respect for you"

[–]Sunshinelorrypop 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I find that quite funny because I disagree with Christopher Hitchens on tons of things. Yet I have great respect for him.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

One of my best friends has the exact opposite political views that I do. We get on so well because we love to respectfully debate with each other

[–]Sunshinelorrypop 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

same here. opinions are not nearly as important to me in a friendship as much as character is.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Sunshinelorrypop 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, we aren't THAT different though...I mean, I'm not friends with any white supremacist or taliban malitia.

[–]frasfralla 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes but feminism is a religion of hate.

Not a rational political position.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 114 points115 points116 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

He didn't make me feeeel good so I don't like him anymore

[–]Hyooge 15 points15 points15 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I wanted to punch a wall just reading this. I can see it being said by pretty much all women I know.

[–]87GNX 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Logic is subsidiary to emotions.

[–]fusedfetus 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And why the fuck do people need to respect artists? They aren't role models. Enjoy their art and find your moral compass from Deadpool.

[–]zpatriarchy 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

are my replies still in little gray boxes?

[–]JGH8763 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is the one thing in our political discourse that isn't allowed to be criticized, even among the most radical, critical parts of the population. This is sometimes explicitly stated. If there truly is a "third rail" in Western civilization, it's most definitely feminism. You criticize it, you're done. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, given Banksy's extremely high degree of positive regard.

[–]vaker 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is the one thing in our political discourse that isn't allowed to be criticized

Oh really? Go ahead, criticize publicly some minorities. I'll wait while you get lynched. I'll go further, criticize anything else besides the devil of the progressive religion (white males) and see what happens.

[–]ZorbaTHut 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the distinction /u/JGH8763 is making is between organizations and groups of people. There are many groups of people you can't criticize, but virtually every organization is up for criticism.

I'm not entirely sure I agree with him - the LGBT rights movement is, while not as sacrosanct as feminism, pretty far up there. And there are (obviously) places where you can criticize feminism safely.

But I can't think of any organizations that are as unattackable as feminism is, and honestly, I can't think of any that are even close.

[–]sirhorsechoker 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its so ironic, most of reddit loves to automaticly judge someone that doesnt believe homosexuality is right. Because being intolerant of other peoples beliefs is wrong....

It just isn't ok for me to say I don't think homosexuality is a good thing. I don't care really. Get a gay wedding and have gay babies together - idgaf. But that isn't even good enough that I would vote for gay marriage. I'm suppose to literally alter my personal logic to fit in with that of a gay person. I'm a horrible guy.

[–]maximun_vader 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

/r/theredpill is more hated than /r/greatapes.

Do you get that? A sub dedicated to the improvement of men in a more feminist society is worse than racism.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]jmottram08 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is made of primary younger, affluent people in the US.

Its a representation of some (not that small) part of this country.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

R/theredpill is more hated than r/beatingwomen. Explain that one.

[–]sushisection 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh really? Go ahead, criticize publicly some minorities. I'll wait while you get lynched. I'll go further, criticize anything else besides the devil of the progressive religion (white males) and see what happens.

Bill O Reilly does this every night, and makes bank doing it. Don't see him attack feminism though

[–]JGH8763 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Among the left, aspects of minority movements can be criticized, but once you touch feminism, the conversation changes into what an asshole you are. This has just been my experience talking with people among the left, specifically the radical left, for many years. Race and other things are sensitive issues, but feminism is by far the most untouchable. Nothing will get you attacked and publicly shamed more.

[–]Gadfly360 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is the new abortion. In that it is the new social wedge issue meant to distract from real issues such as the constitution, middle class and environment being on the brink of destruction.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, taxes, and the state itself, which is a monopoly on the use of violence.

Oh, and religious institutions.

[+]XXXmormon -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is not the same as minorities. Feminism does not equal women.

[–]vaker 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where have I said any of that? Reading comprehension much?

[–]XXXmormon -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I know you didn't say that. I'm pointing out that I'm sure what the person you replied to wasn't saying it was literally the only thing. I agree with him that its one of the only mainstream ideologies that you can't criticize.

I used that sentence to show that there is an obvious difference in categories between race (or comparably gender, hence my women =/= feminism comment) and sociopolitical ideologies.

[–]Gstreetshit 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You criticize it, you're done.

I think Voltaire had a quote about this type of stuff.

[–]rubixpubez 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" -my nigga Voltaire on women and jews

[–]Gstreetshit 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Quit showing your power level in public bro. Its for the best.

[–]rubixpubez 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you please explain what you mean by that?

[–]sidewalkchalked 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If that's how people are handing out respect then it means nothing. The definition of respect is being able to disagree but still consider the opinion valuable and worthy of thought.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

In my opinion, as a response to all the butt hurt comments in that link. If Feminism = Equality it wouldn't be called feminism, it woulf be called equality.

[–]nrjk 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeap. But for some reason these people are really, like really, good at hyperexpanding definitions of words. I wouldn't expect much from people that think "the male gaze" is now sexual assault.

[–]2johnnight 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If both of you want to see how the feminist narrative femxplains it:

jezebel.com/5992479/if-i-admit-that-hating-men-is-a-thing-will-you-stop-turning-it-into-a-self-fulfilling-prophecy

[–]nrjk 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After reading that I can honestly say I've never hated women. I hate the feminist narrative. Too many exclamation marks, too many double standards, and so many exclamation marks. Did I say that twice? Yeah! I did!

It my understanding that women, all throughout human history, have been ~50% of the population. It's almost a discredit to women that it took them thousands of years to figure out they were being oppressed.

The Dr. Seuss example is interesting. Women have had the right to vote now in the US for 94 years now. How many elections, local and federal, have passed since then? Many. You'd think a group of people that is 50% of the population would be interested in electing people "of their own kind" would be able to elect more of their own kind. But how many women have been elected over those 94 years? Certainly not anywhere near ~50%. Hell, I'd be willing to bet, just off the top of my head, it's <5%-10%. So either women like and prefer men in charge (RP theory), or that almost all women harbor internalized misogyny (feminist theory) or women are so stupid and disorganized as a group they can't do anything (misogyny theory). Maybe it's all three in equal parts, or maybe it's just one. "Internalized misogyny" seems to me to operate on the same level as when a prayer that a Christian prays doesn't happen and it's explained away with, "Well, God works in mysterious ways". It's a nice little plug of logic that seals up the fact that they might actually be wrong about the vast majority of women dealing and operating withing a system without the need for help from the Ivory tower of feminism.

[–]cooltrip 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If feminism = equality then feminism is denying women their female freedom and so it's oppressing women, since it's forcing women to accept "feminism = equality" against their female will, or it's not recognizing the female freedom to accept other different clauses than " feminism = equality ". What if women prefer Alpha and dismiss non-Alphas? How can gender-equality feminism justify this female choice?

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How to gain respect from me? Do what banksy just did.

[–]OrangeCrow71 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well!....I never!!!

Seriously, though, he's just cutting out the fat.

[–]Esminia -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well!....I never!!!

Is that a reference to something ?

[–]JesusChristAlcoholic 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A reference to how all the 'Literally can't evens' talk

[–]HitlersCow 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's just a figure of speech.

[–]ButterMyBiscuit 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also kind of outdated and mostly used sarcastically these days.

I'd be surprised or at least entertained hearing someone say "why I never!" in a serious context.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter 63 points64 points65 points 12 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link

Besides the feminism angle, here's the redpill lesson:

Banksy has massive SMV and could go about his business with women the EXACT same way he always does. But because he has outed himself as anti-feminist, it has destroyed the "hamster deniability" these women had set up.

Basically, all these women who previously subjected themselves to Banksy's previously "RP" behavior no longer can rationalize it because they now realize what he is and that he has power over them. When in actions, its fine. But once you verbalize it, that upsets them and makes them FURIOUS at themselves. But they take it out on the man for "making them" do it.

[+]JGH8763 -37 points-36 points-35 points 12 years ago* (38 children) | Copy Link

hamster deniability

Can you explain in non-dumb-red-pill-lingo terms?

This lingo does more harm than good. I'm very familiar with red pill concepts in common or academic terms, but the dumb e-lingo often confuses even me and generally obfuscates significant concepts. It's also nerdy and lame, as is virtually all internet forum lingo.

Also, Banksy hasn't outed himself as an anti-feminist. Being critical of something isn't being anti-.

[–]veggie_girl 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's also nerdy and lame

Bill Gates was nerdy and lame. Mark Zuckerberg was nerdy and lame. Kanye West was nerdy and lame (growing up). Lots of people and things that are far superior to you are/were nerdy and lame. Your attempts to shame only shines light upon your massive ignorance.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Kanye seems like a bit of a douche, but I see your point.

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Kanye only seems like a douche because you've been told it constantly by the media.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then there's all that petulant whining he does about "Baww, I can't get investors for a clothing company", in free-enterprise America.

[–]veggie_girl 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Methods don't really matter, as long as he gets results, which Kanye seems to do. In a country where there is no longer honor, the ends will justify the means as long as they don't land you in prison.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How can you not only be TRP-endorsed, a girl, and this ignorant?

That doesn't add up.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

There's a glossary in the sidebar. ---->

[+]JGH8763 -22 points-21 points-20 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

"Hamster deniability" isn't in it. And it's also ridiculous, which is the point I was trying to make. Just use normal words so people know what you're talking about.

[–]Ojisan1 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It is there, do you need it spoon fed to you?

[+]JGH8763 -28 points-27 points-26 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're wrong and gross. Stop talking to me.

[–]Ojisan1 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're intellectually dishonest, and a pedantic troll.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not ridiculous. You're ridiculous for thinking that we have to cater to you, make your life easier by giving it to u in easy to swallow,bite sized chunks!

I'm just gonna assume your a woman... You're here to hate monger more than try to get an understanding of trp....

[+]JGH8763 -10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're ridiculous for thinking that we have to cater to you, make your life easier by giving it to u in easy to swallow,bite sized chunks!

I'm just gonna assume your a woman... You're here to hate monger more than try to get an understanding of trp....

All assumptions, all of them wrong.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really. Even though your a oh so pretty snowflake, you still gotta do your homework, mmkay? Now run along, daddy's busy.

[–]vaker 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm very familiar with red pill concepts in common or academic terms

Where have you learned all about red pill concepts in academic terms without the lingo? In womyn's studies?

[+]JGH8763 -13 points-12 points-11 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

?

Evo psych, social psych, attraction, sexology, etc. material. There are lots of studies, articles, books, classes, etc. on this stuff.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Evo psych, social psych, attraction

Oh okay, cool. Well, the idea of post-hoc rationalization is supported by the work of Dan Gilbert, if you're interested.

Some people call the machinations that produce a rationalization a "hamster" because it's amusing to imagine the brain running but not going anywhere, like a hamster on a wheel.

Since the purpose of this process is to rationalize, rather than to face, underlying instinctive motivations for behavior, /u/TRPsubmitter used the word "deny" but that word was perhaps superfluous.

non-dumb-red-pill-lingo terms

People respond to instincts which they perceive as vague feelings. Banksy's former actions produced positive feelings of attraction, but his facebook post did not. People (or in this case specifically, women) explain their behavior not as a result of instinct but as a result of rational processes. People deny their true motivations.

[–]vaker 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Evo psych, social psych, attraction, sexology, etc. material.

Ok, fair point. If you're not familiar with the lingo, how do you know they are stating the same RP things?

[+]JGH8763 -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I do get it. Sometimes I just want clarification, like now. I was just making the point.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

For somebody simply "wanting clarification" and/or "making a point", you presented your own clear bias against TRP by attacking terminology you deemed stupid.

[–]JGH8763 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're bad at detecting bias then, at least in this case. I like picking up girls, but the terminology in "pick-up" is stupid as fuck. Same in this case. We only criticize things we give a shit about.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh, swearing. That helps.

Thanks for the quote.

All jokes aside, none of this is "pick-up" lingo. It's just lingo that people in TRP use. Whatever they wish to call it, no matter how absurd it sounds, the concept still remains the same. You're arguing semantics, which in the greater scheme of things is pointless.

[–]JGH8763 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Swearing AT someone is counteractive. Swearing for emphasis can be somewhat helpful, if lazy.

It's not arguing semantics in the common sense. I'm saying that people here should use words people actually understand, and terms that already exist, rather than circle jerking with their own secret e-language.

There are good points made in this forum, but it's often in that snide tone of nerds on internet forums making fun of something. It's gross. If we're talking about sexual strategy, there are few things less attractive than that.

I was just using pick-up lingo as another example.

[–]Ferinex 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it just means plausible deniability. plausible to a hamster, anyway.

[–]Ojisan1 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

But obfuscate isn't nerdy and lame, no sirree.

Check the glossary link in the sidebar if you're confused.

[+]JGH8763 -10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Having a good vocabulary isn't nerdy and lame. Creating your own special lingo for your own special club - that is. It's like the pick-up lingo. You can easily replace every term with an everyday term that people actually understand. You can tell the pick-up and red pill communities were started by nerds because of the acronyms and terms they use. It's really circle-jerk-ish.

[–]Ojisan1 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Jackass - part of having a "good vocabulary" is learning specialized lingo. It makes communication efficient to not have to explain every concept every time. Every academic and non-academic specialization has lingo particular to that domain. You took the time to look up obfuscate because it's easier than having to say "hiding of intended meaning in communication". But you can't take the time to look up hamstering, when there's a glossary right there in the fucking sidebar?

[+]JGH8763 -14 points-13 points-12 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh, swearing. That helps.

"Hamster deniability" isn't in the sidebar, so I was asking for clarification. And my point was that the whole glossary was stupid and counteractive. And I didn't look up "obfuscate", to correct your assumption. These concepts already exist, already have terms, and don't need cute, snide little names and a glossary.

[–]Ojisan1 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is in the sidebar. You're just lazy.

[–]Ojisan1 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They do need a glossary, it's called a dictionary. At some point in your life you looked it up, you weren't born with the innate knowledge of the word "obfuscate".

[–]RPModulator 6 points6 points6 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And I didn't look up "obfuscate", to correct your assumption. These concepts already exist, already have terms, and don't need cute, snide little names and a glossary.

Interesting. So, because you already know a particular word (obfuscate) but not another (hamster), that makes it somehow more acceptable for use here???

FYI, this isn't Spanish, and as such, we don't have a Real Academy. That is to say that in English, the language is dynamic, with meanings ultimately determined by how people use words in everyday discussion. I would suggest if you really want to change the way a word is used here, writing a bunch of comments slamming people for using it in the currently socially acceptable way is not going to be very productive . . .

[–]JGH8763 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know what "hamster" means. That's not what I was asking for clarification of, to repeat myself again.

[–]Jimmy_Big_Nuts 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. We should use normal terms as much as possible rather than creating a secret language.

[–]Adach -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes honestly "hamster deniability"?? Wtf

[–]Jimmy_Big_Nuts -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. We should use normal language as much as possible, not lingo

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's why I used "RP" behaviors, as in presumably behaviors that align with RP but are not explicitly so.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]snr73 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Of course it's not "by" Banksy. Anyone who knows his work would know that. It's a picture of some graffiti on a wall that he, or someone who works for him, saw and photographed.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's his verified Facebook though. Of course he didn't make the photo though.

[–]snr73 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He didn't make the graffiti was my point. I have taken pictures of racist graffiti, funny sexist graffiti, etc. It's a picture of something someone else made. Comment all you like on what the graffiti says, but it isn't "by" Banksy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I doubt Bansky would post it on his official FB if it wasn't something that he stood behind.

[–]Esminia 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course he wouldn't, but it's still not his

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That said, note how the writing is very well proportioned, the characters are very consistent, the alignment is perfect. It was probably written by an artist.

[–]ioncloud9 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

How is it with facebook, NSA, and online tracking and the vast proliferation of cameras in EVERYTHING we STILL dont know who Banksy is?

[–]nrjk 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably because the central computer has designated him as fat and unimportant.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What? No! I think we need to change Banksy's status to ripped and sweet...

[–]ufaild 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If one wants to stay anonymous, it's not that hard. Tor + 3 different VPNs from countries not sympathetic to the US - good luck tracking that.

[–]someboringdude 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How can I learn more about this?

[–]Silverbacked 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TOR

i2p

List of VPN's

Wired article on online anonymity

[–]dukesinbad -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you have no idea how to it's highly unlikely it'd be remotely necessary for you.

[–]someboringdude 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That makes no sense whatsoever. Just because I don't know how to browse anonymously does not mean that I don't need it.

[–]Esminia 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Before he was famous, no one paid attention to who he was, and now that he is, he can afford to have, I don't know, relations, security, cover, someone who looks for camera and plan the right time ? When you have money, everything is possible

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not on the top of their list, though I'm sure the NSA knows. Someone should ask Snowden if he knows.

[–]Proud_Denzel 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because Banksy is probably not a single person, but a group of artists using a joint pseudonym.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He's a rich boy from London. As someone in that art scene, he's a sell out. No respectable graff artist likes him. Same thing with shepard farey

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All art is bullshit, you either like it or you dont, who gives a fuck about his reputation?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its subjective, sadly you will miss out on a lot in life by thinking like that

[–]babouthecat 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Loads of people know who banksy is here in tue uk. One of my best friends used to live on the same street.

It is no secret but it isnt publicised

[–]Kuonji 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Haha. Someone linked my "Too Many Male CEO's" meme I made a while back.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]dicklord_airplane 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

because human nature and the natural human hierarchy is still the same as it ever was. men are invisible and disposable unless they prove themselves as leaders.

[–]TangoAlphaBravo 71 points72 points73 points 12 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

"Feminism hasnt killed, harmed or done anything bad to a single fucking person. Do you know how many women have been killed, harmed or harassed just because they were women? Billions"

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[–]t21spectre 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Only half a dozen?

Amateurs.

[–]O3EAN 34 points35 points36 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

stepitupmen #wecandobetter

[–]2comment 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except the bottle blondes, camps don't help them concentrate any better. They stay under the desk playing camp secretary.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are Caves and Corridors below Dachachau where we keep BILLIONS of Women! Maybe Trillions. I hope feminists will never find out.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well that's a crock of bullshit that quote is. Look at what VAWA has done to fathers and children.

Look what the Duluth laws have done to families.

Feminism has hurt so many people the numbers are immeasurable.

[–]JohnPeel 32 points33 points34 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I like how she lumped in harassment with being killed there.

I'm sure every human on the planet has been harassed at least once in their lifetime.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Do you know how many women have been killed, harmed or hugged just because they were women? Trillions!"

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was born nobody knew if I'd be a boy or girl because my parents wanted to be surprised. So naturally, in case I'd be a Woman, an officer of the patriarchy-Bureau was in the room with a opression-starters kit. But then I was born and I was a boy and since I was white the officer handed me the golden key for everything. Then he opened his umbrella and flew back into some crazy feminists brain.

[–]Trpdoc 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was just about to paste this one as it is my favorite. Victimhood really has been the theme of the 2nd decade of this century.

[–]1mcdehuevo 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yesallwomen

For the billions!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God that "billions" at the end is so hilarious I find it hard to believe it's a real comment

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I love the comment "Feminism is Humanism." No, its not, and to say that it is suggests that you don't know what either term means.

Feminism is a social construct that seeks to forward a "women's agenda" (they are now one of the largest swing voting blocks) while humanism is both a philosophy of rationalism (seeks only rational solutions) and ethics in which all humans are both primary and EQUAL moral actors. The feminist narrative of the perpetual victim hood of women and corruptness in men stands in direct contrast with this.

As a side note humanism posits that all people have the potential for moral goodness even, GASP, men.

Edit: Spelling

[–]bat_mayn 132 points133 points134 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

I really hate western women.

The most hyper-privileged, self-absorbed, most rewarded creatures this planet has ever seen.

[–]Mechanik_J 46 points47 points48 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nah, no you don't. You hate the Beta males that cater to every girls whim.

[–]Stormhammer 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes and no - I've come to realize women of other cultures that are rooted deeply in family are amazing. It's nice when your significant other actually knows how to cook and clean along side you.

[–]TechnoL33T -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No? He/she hates the women. All of it is a social construct that the women benefit from.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Hating women is a waste of time.

The hate is a self-hate projection, hate for your former self. Hate yourself of how you behaved in the past, hate yourself everytime you revert back to your old habits.

I know because this is the way I feel

[–]Juan23Four5 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't hate man. Hatred isn't going to get you anywhere. It's not productive.

[–]Azediae 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your hatred is misplaced; feminism is simply the latest manifestation of biologically intrinsic dread that is native to the female gender of our species. The only difference is for thousands of years when women acted irrationally or like children, they were ignored, or left to starve and die without a man's protection. Somewhere, somehow, men collectively began humoring the notion of letting this nonsense be perpetuated under the guise of intellectual freedom of expression, only to find themselves shamed into compliance one at a time by a rapidly growing, nebulous yet aligned collective akin to cancer.

"Old" feminism was indeed about fairly fundamental rights. The right to employment, to vote, etc. Modern feminism isn't about fundamental rights - it's about a power struggle that yields a zero net contribution to society and becomes a significant overhead in and of itself simply to attempt a redistribution of power.

Like /u/Mechanik_J said, what we face now are the consequences of our ancestors' actions which triggered this accelerating change. Like much of life, it's simply a joke in poor taste. Sort of how you begin saying "uhm" or "like" or "yolo" or "bro" ironically at first and then find yourself unable to stop.

hashtag yolo

[–]Xiamon-8 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

Odd that this is the most upvoted comment... I guess most members are still in the bitter stage? Directly proclaiming hate is the exact reason we are labeled as misogynistic.

I'm not advocating censorship, but it strikes me as ridiculous that a comment that is little more than bitter complaining is the most highly voted comment in a thread.

I'm curious to see if I get downvoted for this.

Edit: To be clear, I'm not arguing the point, simply criticizing its popularity.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For what it's worth, I found it odd that particular comment is upvoted. There are plenty of stupid men in that thread defending feminism, in spite of the fact that Banksy (or whoever that really is) is onto something. Feminism is a rhetorical toolkit that can be used as a weapon.

proclaiming hate is the exact reason we are labeled as misogynistic.

Do you see any difference between saying "I hate women" and saying "I hate western women"

Would a woman be criticized if he hated a large group of men based on the prevailing culture? "I hate guys who play video games all day" or (apropos) "I hate men who aren't feminists"

[–]sk_nameless 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious to see if you'll get a serious response.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you find it odd and ridiculous then you might be in the wrong place.

[–]Xiamon5 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Meh, there's a lot of quality content here, especially on /r/AlreadyRed. I generally agree with red pills traditionalism, respect for moral pragmatism, and societal dissection.

Most women, no, people in our society act based on what is accepted, what they can get away with, and what makes them feel good. As the society degrades, so too does the quality of the person within it.

If they were delusional, I would pity them, but due to their expectations being widespread, they will actually get all of those things they feel entitled to and that's fine. Why should I begrudge them for expecting and receiving the social norm?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My point is that this place do not focus on how things ought to be. It's focused on accepting reality and dealing with it on a personal level. We accept, and should not be surprised, that there bitter men around here and we focus on our own problems instead of theirs.

[–]cooltrip -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Western women are hyper-privileged, self-absorbed, rewarded only to betas and the rest of non-Alphas. But they are submissive, feminine and lovely to Alpha.

[–]bat_mayn 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not even attracted to "submissive" women. I'm glad 50 Shades of Grey made so many women think they can come out with their weird power fantasies. Just lets me know to stay away from them.

I'm not 'hating' on western women because of dating - I'm speaking generally on how they treat so many men like absolute garbage, just because they don't give them the 'tingles'. You can watch certain women in public and the way they treat men of which they perceive could give them no immediate value for themselves. The look on their face can only be attributed to the same look one would give an insect.

It's really nasty and I'm not into it, I am 100% not attracted to the typical western woman. Third wave feminist womyn - whatever you want to call it.

Maybe I do just hate the "betas", but it's a two way street. Women going after their tingles fantasy don't even know how to respect themselves, and it's really obvious and unattractive. They're broken, and don't know how to keep themselves happy.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is bullshit...humanism is humanism.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It takes an impressively large hamster to honestly believe that a cause championing only 1 gender can work towards true equality between both.

It takes a hamster of monolithic proportions to think that women unduly suffer under the eyes of the law. One need only look at the statistics to know that women have it far easier in our Western justice system than men.

Yet we still see proper idiots saying:

Wow, just lost a lot of respect for one of my favourite artists, this is really disappointing Feminism is promoting equality, that's the thing people don't seem to understand...

and

Feminism is not saying "women are better than men". Feminism is about equality but a lot of people forgot that, sadly.

Apparently what was forgotten was an understanding of what equality is. Women being treated differently because they're women is what Feminism is by definition. The exact opposite of equality.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the original post.

I fucking love the butthurt comments. Apparently all respect for the artist had been lost because his opinion differs to that of some other people

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Comments are a goldmine.

All extreme lowest common denominator feels drivel.

[–]fitzrhapsody 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I read through most of those comments and was astounded at the stark difference between the way "feminists" (both male and female) argued, versus the way the non-feminists argued.

Any time a non-feminist refuted a feminist point, the non-feminist stated clear, specific examples pointing out why the feminist point was inaccurate or hypocritical. However, not a single feminist did that one single time. They instead resorted to name-calling and, of course, labeling the non-feminist as "sexist" immediately.

The lack of any ability to argue for feminism in any logical way was unbelievable. I've always understood that feminists disregard logical/rational debate, but this thread actually lowered my opinion of the movement even further. Embarrassing.

[–]Ojisan1 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Facebook comments illustrate exactly what this graffiti is talking about. And they hamster on, with no recognition of the irony.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism is love?

Yeah, cause you bitches look like Shrek

[–]Summertime_Dimes 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Gold. Thanks for posting, brah.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Adach 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How about bruh? That better?

[–]cooltrip 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is a weapon, but it is not a weapon against men; it is a weapon only against inferior men, namely, against betas and the rest of non-Alpha. All those gender-equality lovers prefer superior men.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is a weapon and a weapon is for war.

Feminists proceed to flame and complain for a simple statement.

Well played!

[–]lightfeet 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Feminism just means equality..."

No, we already have a word for "equality" and its called, ready for this? "Equality."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://i.imgur.com/F1ESaro.jpg

[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

next time please post this in /r/trpofftopic

[+]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave -8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I wanted to see if anyone else on reddit was talking about this so I used the global search for "bansky" and was surprised to learn that this thread isn't there in the results. So, TIL TRP is hidden from reddit search results. lol I guess.

[–]draketton 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

you spelled his name wrong

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wow fail.

thanks. This thread does show up when I spell it correctly.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reddit's search is terrible and does not show newest first or anything like that.

If you search for the exact URL of the Facebook page you will see all the posts about it. Since there is only this one, you are taken right here.

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