Woman says she has HIV at first date, WhiteKnights on /r/OKCupid says guy should seriously consider her.

rebuildingMyself · 2014-04-07T06:30:51+00:00

To be fair, it's really responsible of her to disclose that information.

But shaming men who don't want to catch HIV is taking the white knighting to a whole new level

aalewis____ · 2014-04-07T06:08:46+00:00

Lol...move on already! Cause you know, there's plenty of girls out there WHO DO NOT HAVE HIV!!!

-22 points

2comment · 2014-04-07T07:18:35+00:00

OP in comments

My gut says give her a chance.

Typical male weakness to a female confession. Someone replies:

Then you go for it, my friend! Always always be safe.

Also, I am reminded of this film where Angelina Jolie is very into this guy with HIV, their making out scene is intense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playingbyheart

Only an idiot would ask this question. Everyone else knows the answer.

2 years down the line, a girl is going to ask Reddit: "This guy I'm dating confided in me he's HIV+ first date. He caught it from his previous girlfriend and he knew the chance he was taking going in. He said his condom broke."

Probable Replies:

"If it broke by him last time, guess it's going to break by you! Get out of there!"

"Eww, there's enough fish in the sea, dump that dumbass."

"What an idiot. If he's not going to give you aids, he's still going to pass that low iq to your kids."

Life isn't a fucking movie. Angelina Jolie does weird shit but she isn't really going around kissing HIV+ guys. Even if he doesn't contract the disease, his SMV is going to take a fucking dive if word gets around he used to fuck that. "See that guy, he's been with an HIV girl, who knows wtf he has." Fucking morons.

Archwinger · 2014-04-07T14:17:23+00:00

HIV sucks. It's non-curable and only temporarily controllable. Eventually, it will kill you if nothing else beats it to the punch. And it's a shitty way to go. And it's highly communicable through sex. Barrier contraceptives help, but nothing's 100%. And even if you don't contract it from your partner, your partner will eventually sicken and die while you sit there holding hands with her in a hospital bed.

It is 100% the right thing for a woman to disclose this highly relevant information on a first date.

It is 100% the man's right to not want to deal with all of the baggage, risks, and emotions inherent in having an HIV positive partner.

And if the man decides that this isn't for him, more power to him. Good for him. He can go find an option that fits what he's looking for. And good for the woman, too. She doesn't have to stick around with a wishy-washy guy who isn't sure if he's in or out. She should find someone who's comfortable with her entire big picture. It sucks that HIV dramatically reduces her options in that regard, but life's sometimes crappy and unfair, and kudos to her for disclosing early and doing the right thing.

But this is reddit, so the advice this guy's going to receive will not be: "It's your right to do whatever you're comfortable with, including not seeing this woman again and instead pursuing a different woman who doesn't have a sexually transmittable terminal illness."

Instead, he's going to hear: "You need to be open minded and stick with this woman through thick and thin! The only thing that matters is if you feel something! Love conquers all! This woman's especially going to need your help and support in the future, so marry her immediately to tie your assets to her! If you have any doubts about sticking with this woman, you should get counseling!"

LinkenSphere · 2014-04-07T08:32:00+00:00

As it turns out, real women don't only have curves but AIDS as well, go figure.

aphelion3342 · 2014-04-07T04:07:07+00:00

Two years later: "I got her a house, she got me AIDS"

Edit: thought - did someone troll /r/OkCupid? This is too good to be true.

Clauderoughly · 2014-04-07T05:07:34+00:00

It's beta solipsism. That which is real in your mind is extrapolated to that which is real for everyone. Betas live in the mindset of "if a cool, pretty girl is attracted to me, you say yes, period." Imagine you were given a choice - you can never have sex again or have sex with this one pretty girl who has aids for the rest of your life, so you always wrap it. The human body craves reproduction over security, so most people would choose to still have sex. This is the mindset of the beta - if a girl is into me, that might literally be the only chance I ever get to pass on my DNA, so fuck it, she could be a child molestor, but maybe the patriachy made her that way and I can give her therapy!

And so betas assume that others must be in that same mindset. It is beyond their imagination that there are guys out there who don't consider it "lucky" to get laid or to experience a girl's attraction.

TRPsubmitter · 2014-04-07T05:35:53+00:00

This guy's SMV must be so incredibly low and he must be so lonely to have to pursue an HIV+ girl

2comment · 2014-04-07T05:28:44+00:00

If dating is weeding out undesirables it makes me question what the fuck would any of the people giving advice there reject? Then again they are on okcupid so I am guessing nothing.

Just a life long disease with no cure that could be passed on but you know no biggie.

dvrzero · 2014-04-07T06:39:41+00:00

Lol!!! wish some white knight on the thread tried to convince him with statistics, that would be gold

WK: "Dudeee the chances of contracting HIV with every session of unprotected sex is like 1/300 or smaller, its safer than riding a car"

2014-04-07T09:53:01+00:00

omg I nearly puked when I read this...

wtf is wrong with these guys.

I'm gonna quit reddit/the internet for a while now, I've had enough!

PrimaxAUS · 2014-04-07T05:21:24+00:00

This is scarcity mentality taken to the extreme.

dvrzero · 2014-04-07T05:53:00+00:00

Chick told me she has HS2 the other day on OKC then was surprised I wouldn't date her.

JohnnK · 2014-04-07T07:02:15+00:00

If it was any other woman, they would probably just lie about it and pass on the disease. This one was honest (stupid?) Enough to tell the truth.

Her honesty is commendable, so I'd keep in contact with her. However, I would never fuck her.

gopher88 · 2014-04-07T07:18:37+00:00

"Unfortunately she can not find anyone who is ok being in a relationship with her. But even after disclosing the information to her dates, they are still willing to sleep with her. I don't get it, and I feel terrible about it."

This was a shocker

FoxTrot1337 · 2014-04-07T08:17:20+00:00

Are people fucking insane?!? WHY, OH WHY, WOULD YOU TELL SOMEONE TO STAY WITH SOMEONE THATS HIV POSITIVE!? Honestly.. if the OP is stupid enough to stick around, the world will have one less dumb ass walking on it. I'd bust out laughing if he tests positive and she leaves him down the road. FUCKING DUMB. You dont need TRP to know how stupid this is..

FortunateBum · 2014-04-07T07:06:28+00:00

Guys, want to imagine something really scary?

Think about how many people don't care enough to disclose at all.

Yikes.

2014-04-07T06:02:53+00:00

She contracted it from a previous monogamous (or so she thought) relationship

Yeah right

2014-04-07T10:03:48+00:00

words from the OP

'My gut says give her a chance.'

You cant make this shit up...

'A lot of people over 25 or so learned everything they know about HIV in the 90s when it was a lot less treatable than it is today and the bloodbath of the 80s was still fresh in the public mind.'

yeah you know its just a deadly disease nothing to worry about

_Just_do_it · 2014-04-07T09:11:25+00:00

My mother had a griend who slept with her bf even though he had AIDS. Her friend didn't think it was a big deal, she died at 26 years of age.

Literally die for alpha dick.

randarrow · 2014-04-07T05:12:53+00:00

On the bright side, you can bet she'd be loyal...

FloranHunter · 2014-04-07T04:57:53+00:00

On the plus side, she's not evil. Not a fucking high bar, not being evil, but he could always date a serial killer...

2014-04-07T10:29:23+00:00

Everyone on there is missing the glaring point that their relationship (let's face it) probably won't pan out in the future. They'll break up 5 years down the line, during which time he stands a chance of contracting HIV and being in exactly the same position she is at the moment, alone and having difficulty landing a partner due to their HIV status...!

modawg · 2014-04-07T15:25:48+00:00

I don't see the problem here. Any chump stupid enough to need the input of strangers on a matter such as this is deserving of this type of response. The real miracle is that this bitch disclosed that she has HIV without first trying to get his dick addicted to that juicy raw pussy. It's a miracle on 34th street, folks!

TH0UGHTP0LICE · 2014-04-07T19:23:31+00:00

Women who have diseases that will fucking kill you - "you should give her a chance!"

Men under 6 feet tall, or who make less than 80K a year "Kick him to da curb bay bay and gits you a real mans!"

psycho-logical · 2014-04-07T08:11:42+00:00

How his date went:

:)

:(

:)

semigod__ · 2014-04-07T05:53:03+00:00

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Red_August · 2014-04-07T11:01:08+00:00

White knight Valhalla: he hopes to get to keep the girl he saves this time.

RobbenQC · 2014-04-07T11:22:18+00:00

Hopefully these white knights aren't all talk, lets call it natural selection at work.

HeartlessAtAFuneral · 2014-04-07T11:54:43+00:00

I don't know much about HIV, but that's kind of a deal breaker. It's easy to tell someone to go with it when you're not the one who's having to deal with it.

2014-04-07T23:03:21+00:00

I would thank her for her honesty, pay for dinner as a token of my gratitude (seriously, mad props for just putting the cards on the table) and then ghost.

Life is too short to take chances like that.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-04-08T03:55:01+00:00

Actually, medically speaking, HIV is a chronic disease, not a fatal disease these days and they have a real good handle on the viral count thing. The chance of infection is way, way, way less than the chance she will divorce him, destroy his life and take away his children. I bet there is not a single case of HIV transmissions female to male that did not involve open sores in both sex organs or shared razor/needle etc.

redderthanpurple · 2014-04-07T08:05:58+00:00

People with AIDS or other seriously fucked up diseases are also still people. She should get with some other AIDS infected guy. She also always be open about this status. I remember a post here about a RP guy who contracted AIDS even tough he was careful with his selection of plates that he did raw. I would want for him to get with a woman who had the same illness (but who also was RP) instead of looking down on him & bitching him out.

Best case scenario, bitches like her and her whiteknights encourage disease ridden sluts to come out and admit their diseases so we don't have to risk it when we meet some plate who ticks all the boxes for doing it raw.

Let's use this to our advantage.

semigod__ · 2014-04-07T06:33:24+00:00

she used to fuck a drug addict, a bisexual or a nigger. place your bets.

2014-04-07T15:33:04+00:00

Wonder what the response would be if the genders were reversed, I'm pretty sure I know what one woman would be telling another with regards to finding a nice guy, but who is HIV positive.

bama79rolltide · 2014-04-07T16:28:34+00:00

I wouldn't date anyone who has HIV or herpes.

The thing that is unfortunate is that it may be possible that her ex gave her the disease. Talk about a life of loneliness.

They do have STD dating websites however, think of how scary that is....

Humankeg · 2014-04-07T21:33:54+00:00

And now this post (about dating someone with HIV) has gone to "best of". Ffs

2014-04-08T02:31:27+00:00

Well i mean, he should definitely consider it. He should then easily come to the conclusion that its not worth it.

2014-04-08T03:10:15+00:00

Isn't hypergamy a bitch? I bet she looks at other guys that have HIV and thinks "I can do better".

2014-04-07T11:55:00+00:00

Wow.. I just don't get that

2014-04-07T15:27:59+00:00

That is actually one of the questions on OKC..."Would you ever date someone who is HIV +?" I didn't respond because I couldn't seem to locate the "Hell motherfucking no" option to select.

Would I date someone with HIV? Well...no more than I would thumb wrestle a bobcat or slow dance with a grizzly bear

riverraider69 · 2014-04-07T08:43:45+00:00

I don't know. It ultimately depends on the numbers. I'm willing to do some risky shit (in my case riding a motorcycle) that has X% chance to maim and cripple me each year - because I consider the risk worth it. Plus we're always risking the girl getting pregnant even with a condom.

2 minutes of googling found this:

A study of heterosexual couples in Uganda in which one partner was infected revealed that infected persons who did transmit virus to their partners had significantly higher mean viral load than those who did not transmit (90,254 copies/mL vs. 38,029 copies/mL); no transmissions occurred among couples in which the infected partners viral load was under 1500 copies/mL.1

So it seems like a pretty straightforward math. If she is under treatment with a very low viral load and you still wear a condom you have about the same risk (or possibly much lower) of getting HIV as there is of her getting pregnant and saddling you with child support and/or marriage. The costs and consequences for your lifestyle are also comparable.

It may be worth it to you or not (and again, abundance mentality is key here) but it's not that idiotic to consider it.

mr_throwz · 2014-04-07T10:17:32+00:00

HIV is caused by: homosexuality (male on male sex as the highest rate of infection), intravenous drug use - and other sorts of sordid behaviors that liberals defend. So by extension liberals defend the scags with HIV.

arhombus · 2014-04-07T14:49:25+00:00

AIDS is fatal 100% of the time, but so is being human. 100% percent chance of death.

JohnnK · 2014-04-07T13:43:45+00:00

You realize you can practice safe sex and not catch HIV? And she admitted it on the first date; she's honest. She is real, and she's made mistakes. I admire that.

You, however, are a fucking idiot.

Title	Woman says she has HIV at first date, WhiteKnights on /r/OKCupid says guy should seriously consider her.
Author	randarrow
Upvotes	153
Comments	152
Date	April 7, 2014 3:58 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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