[Q4BP] How can some BPs criticise RP for not understandind nuance when they do the same thing to r/trp material?

sublimemongrel · 2017-06-11T15:53:19+00:00

This is why I like to set the definitions first. You will have plenty of people who will use pretty mild definitions for certain terms like you bring up (negging being playful teasing/flirting for example). Others will be less mild. If you don't give someone the chance to clarify you're likely just talking over each other.

drok007 · 2017-06-11T15:24:47+00:00

Some people think ad hominem is a valid argument. Like they literally think they are doing a good job, not looking like a twat. Also, a lot of people don't know what words mean.

JaggedYellowPill · 2017-06-11T14:40:22+00:00

News flash: Some TRPers don't understand nuance AND some TBPers don't understand nuance. More accurately, some TRPers understand nuance in some areas but not others, and some TBPers understand nuance in some areas but not others.

Nobody catches all nuances.

I could never look at dread game as "fuck her best friend", Negging as "destroy her self esteem, make her feel like shit", etc.

Now that we've established that some people miss nuances that other people catch, regardless of whether you look at dread game and negging in those ways: Some people do. And if you go to /r/askTRP and /r/askMRP you won't have to dig very deep to find examples of TRPers and MRPers who have missed those very nuances that you are able to catch.

PieceBringer · 2017-06-11T17:12:55+00:00

Red pill guys are known for their extreme literal interpretations of everything. This is pretty commonly understood and not really a thing.

If you are one of the exceptions to this rule, great.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2017-06-11T15:07:42+00:00

Understanding the nuances of Fascism doesn't mean I can't say at the end of the day be extremely against them to the point of antagonism, same for red pill crap.

Ercole-- · 2017-06-11T14:59:45+00:00

Because ad hominem is all they know how to do and nuance is a good word for making yourself sound credible.

Daniel_Bryan_Fan · 2017-06-11T17:05:36+00:00

This is the second thread I've inspired in two days.

How many Ask threads (married or regular) seem to think flirting with their wife's friends is appropriate and it backfired or think treating their wife/gf's like shit was appropriate and it backfired. The red pill apparently doesn't understand the nuance of the red pill. The blue pill understand it's nuance they just think it's all bs.

TheChemist158 · 2017-06-11T22:20:19+00:00

I don't know what comments exactly you are talking about or if my comments would qualify. But I know that I've butted heads with reds because I interpret TRP in a way they dislike. For example, I've said that TRP views women are inferior. And reds will jump to say 'not inferior, just different'. But it's not from lack of understanding. They view women as lessor on most fronts that we judge human beings by (logic, morality, perseverance), and throw in a few off ways when they get called on it (but they are better at reading social cues).

Another way that I get accused of this is when reds claim a greater unity then they have. For example, the infamous "women are teenager" post. Some reds think that is an inflammatory post put there just to troll feminists, other think it is true. Some think it is true because women are coddled in society but could mature just the same as men in a different society. Others think it is a biological handicap and they women can never mature like men. And it's okay to have different views, but sometimes when I say "many reds think that women are biologically incapable of maturing past 18" some reds will criticize me as not understanding the material.

HugMuffin · 2017-06-11T18:18:12+00:00

Hey, I made those comments you claim fail to understand nuance!

Anyway, thing is, a lot of RPers do see those tactics the way I described. It's a pretty wide range of opinions, and your interpretation, based on my reading of TRP, is not the majority.

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wtknight · 2017-06-11T17:08:14+00:00

Those are extreme examples, but even minor examples of those techniques still involve the idea of causing suffering, and are thus more controversial than techniques that involve constructively impressing a woman without causing suffering.

RockinSocksII · 2017-06-11T21:09:24+00:00

We're all autistic.

[deleted] · 2017-06-12T01:43:29+00:00

It's hard to mock something if you describe it properly.

Relax, you have no idea the amount of hate that can come your way from them

[deleted] · 2017-06-12T06:56:50+00:00

There are jars of pitch-black paint with more nuance than the 'Red Pill.'

Macheako · 2017-06-12T16:49:04+00:00

You literally answered your own goddamn question. Because those people, specifically, themselves lack nuance lol

I honestly wish it was more complicated haha but sadly, much of our "evil" is really just our profound cosmic stupidity lol

PieceBringer · 2017-06-14T17:37:31+00:00

Some BPs do, some BPs don't. TRP, by definition, does not understand nuance.

So, apples and oranges here.

Title	[Q4BP] How can some BPs criticise RP for not understandind nuance when they do the same thing to r/trp material?
Author	PieceBringer
Upvotes	18
Comments	125
Date	June 11, 2017 2:17 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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