MGTOW or anyone complaining women treat them poorly or view them as ATM are unattractive and have little else to offer.

alreadyredschool · 2016-09-18T17:37:53+00:00

I don't think that you quite understand the underlying argument.

How we treat our lowest fellows is a great indicator about our goodness. If women are assholes to low quality men then they are bad humans. Also most of the criticism trp has for women is about how they treat low quality men, no idea why people get offended about that. Also no idea why trps get offended at the idea of doormats being treated like doormats. It's within your range to change the situation.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2016-09-18T08:50:10+00:00

Most men are average. Most women are average. If you look like a greek god and only ever interact with nice, sweet women that approach you all the time craving for your dick - you're clearly an outlier and your experience and opinion doesn't matter

MisgenderedCactus · 2016-09-18T11:28:08+00:00

"Like how do they not see that that's an indication of them and not women as an entire gender?"

Confirmation bias. If the only women you've dated are gold diggers, then you're going to assume the majority are like that. If you've been married and divorced twice and each time the woman puts you through the financial wringer, you're going to assume the majority of women see men as an ATM. If you have the bad luck to have grown up in a household where the wife/mother was abusive to her husband and sons, you're going to assume that women are sexist harpies.

Crows are black. I've never seen a white one. It's possible that there's an albino crow out there in the world, but until I see one, it is not something I can say I've proven to be true. Same with MGTOW and women. It doesn't matter that I, someone born a female, pay for all my dates or at the very least go dutch, if the majority of other females out there still expect the male to pay. That's what a MGTOW is going to keep experiencing, until he meets me or someone like me.

"If they find you attractive, women don't treat you this way."

I'm just going to point out this qualifier: IF they find you attractive...

Why should attractiveness play a role in not being bitchy or entitled towards a man? Perhaps I'm an outlier, but I'm considerate towards everyone I meet. A person's sex, ethnicity, gender, class, etc doesn't factor into how I treat them...their personality does. You do not have to find anyone attractive to be kind to them, or empathize with their point of view.

solaceFromSolitude · 2016-09-18T15:59:29+00:00

Of course, these men are all poor neckbeards living in their mother's basements...

Come on. Get real. Ask yourself this: What do women truly have to offer to you that genuinely makes it worth all the trouble?

Have you ever been married? Have you ever had a woman go bat shit crazy on you? Have you ever been physically abused by a woman? Divorce raped?

I see only one purpose for women and it is sex. I already have two children. I have no need to be around women for anything but sex. The quickest solution: Pay for a prostitute a few times a month. It is far cheaper and more satisfying than any LTR I have ever been in.

despisedlove2 · 2016-09-18T08:40:14+00:00

Always thought that MGTOWs have turned their backs on women.

If they are merely educating their brothers, then that is a public service.

jackandjill22 · 2016-09-18T14:41:00+00:00

This post is dumb. Your SMV level bears little influence on your ability to observe generalities in the world, provided you're willing to attempt to approach it objectively...

The only people who have wildly unrealistic beliefs are women and men on the extreme ends and people indoctrinated by feminism.

Furthermore, winning in the SMP doesn't necessitate that the SMP is fair. A 10 man can still observe that the SMV is unfair in various ways and fuck a new, eager woman on an hourly basis...

[deleted] · 2016-09-18T09:45:12+00:00

What exactly is the point here? How does some guys checking out affect you? Do you really need every soul to agree with your world view so you can feel secure? This post seems like a waste of digital space.

FairlyNaive · 2016-09-18T08:20:37+00:00

I think thats exactly what a lot of them complain about - the fact that dating women for them and for the guy who got better a hand in terms of looks is associated with wildly different costs.

louplop · 2016-09-18T09:51:35+00:00

I am not MGTOW, however I think your OP is too easy writting. Let me try to rephrase it (I would love some MGTOW correct me if I make mistakes):

You're going to Harvard in the Football teams, while another man go to a second tier university in finance and got a master's degree. then the harvard guy get a manager position in a bank because of Harvard while the second guy get unemployed because he hasn't the right university.
I don't think I read people here complain about women loving/wanting going good looking men (it would be stupid). But I see people complaining women wanting only the best of the best while aren't one of them themselve - "Every women is beautiful" vs "Tall, dark and handsome" - This is a great discussion, is it true or only confimation biais from men ?
I agree with you about look, if you're good looking people don't treat you the same, isn't it unfair for you ?
Why are you that mad, people complain about something which affect us.

darksoldierk · 2016-09-18T14:48:38+00:00

Ah, so in other words "men should shut up and let women do whatever they want" right?

If you can't get into Harvard while having the grades and intelligence then there is a reason. If you see Harvard is only letting in people of color, than you are absolutely going to complain about the state of our education system and the way that our universities work, and you would be right to do so.

[deleted] · 2016-09-18T19:11:17+00:00

I don't know THAT much about mgtow (or trp for that matter) I haven't known about the community for very long. I Do agree with many of their points, such as how keeping your mind on your goals and not caring about women or what they think is the best way for a man to live.

However I can't agree with the more extreme side of it which advocates for pushing women out of your life completely. BUT that's only because I'm heterosexual and have a strong sexual desire for women.

I do have female friends but not very many atleast not when compared to how many male friends I have. I have been with plenty women tho I've never been in a serious relationship and I spend as lil as i possibly can on a woman I'm dating.

If it wasn't for sex I'd be the biggest mgtow ever and never even speak to women. But unfortunately for me I'm a heterosexual male with a high sex drive and that is not an option. If youre a straight guy mentally strong enough to cancel out vagina and go the mgtow route... you have my respect.

anitapk · 2016-09-18T10:09:59+00:00

I never thought of it this way but it's the way I felt all along. I couldn't agree more although some complaining is to be expected and heck if people can't complain online where can they?

[deleted] · 2016-09-18T10:56:46+00:00

Why are you so upset op? Did one of the big bad mgtows say something mean to you?

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Talkytalktalk · 2016-09-18T15:40:08+00:00

Everyone is a product of their life experiences and their own reality.

[deleted] · 2016-09-18T17:35:31+00:00

this post is excellent. If I wasn't ugly, i'm sure that i would just get alone with women great. Sucks to suck

gasparddelanuit · 2016-09-19T00:50:01+00:00

Your characterisation of MGTOW is a strawman. All MGTOW is, is a rejection of the blue pill world, gynocentricism and marriage, as well as a commitment to live for one's self, rather than for the benefit of women or society.

TRP and RP more generally are on the same page as MGTOW regarding the rejection of the blue pill world and gynocentricism, they just don't necessarily rule out marriage completely, although many do discourage it. They also have a stronger preoccupation with engaging women for either sex or relationships, which though not out-ruled by MGTOW, are lower priorities, especially anything to do with commitment.

None of this is about being unattractive. It is a rational and philosophical rejection of blue pill beliefs and premises. An incel is not a real MGTOW, since their situation is involuntary. MGTOW has to be your preferred mode of living. In practical terms, it's little more than just being an eternal bachelor, by choice.

wombatinaburrow · 2016-09-19T06:24:33+00:00

Well, yes. Toxic, sour tempered people are unattractive. You might look like everyday Joe, but the moment you start whining like Roosh, she's going to escape out the bathroom window and block your number.

[deleted] · 2016-09-20T13:42:15+00:00

I have a friend who could easily be a model. He gets approached by hot women. All eomen are extremely bice to him and want to be around him.

Im nit bad looking myself, Im 6'4" and in my more validation seeling days topped ladybonersgw a few times.

However I am not in this "hot guy" territory with my shirt on and basically am invisible to women. Its my own fault because i dint dress nice or game them - I just cant be bithered.

whatsazipper · 2016-09-18T15:38:19+00:00

MGTOW is a rebranding of incel. Men who are busy forging their own path don't latch onto such things. It's a way to take a negative situation and spin it under positive wording. Think: Healthy At Any Size.

NalkaNalka · 2016-09-18T14:38:23+00:00

That is because the vast majority of modern men are unattractive and have nothing to offer other than slave labor.

[deleted] · 2016-09-18T15:47:49+00:00

Nice poisoning the well. "Anyone who disagrees with me is a faggot" -OP

prodigy2throw · 2016-09-18T17:21:40+00:00

MGTOWS are the real losers. Buncha lazy quitters

MGTOW or anyone complaining women treat them poorly or view them as ATM are unattractive and have little else to offer.

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